bebeh Publish time 11-7-2005 04:59 PM

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 20-1-2005 08:52 AM:
Not sure ... Tak kenal agama orang Sikh. Rasa2nya mereka tak ikut kepercayaan orang Hindu.

Dan, masyarakat Sikh memisahkan diri dgn orang Hindu lain. Masalah dalaman mereka selesaikan sendiri da ...
sikh ada ego skek coz actually kaum sikh depa kebanyakkan lebih berada dan legih berjaya dari kaum hindu ....that's why.........and kalu kiter pergi ke india......di Delhi...kota besar india....dan boleh dikatakan..........hampir keseluruhan di duduki oleh kaum sikh........walau pun delhi bukanlah penempatan utk orang orang sikh......tapi disebabkan mereka ney dikatakan yang kaya dan berjaya.........makanya........begitulah jadinya.......

so disebabkan itu mungkin ada sedikit keegoan dalam diri mereka.....
hindu.........is hindu.........adat resam dan cara anutan tentang agama dan adat resam depa pun tak sama not same at all dgn kaum sikh ney.......

by the way apa yang i tahu coz i have friend both side......and i have ask them about this.........kalu terdapatnyer ketidak betulan....so ..sila perbetulakan........:tq:

cclee Publish time 11-7-2005 07:06 PM

Orang Sikh lebih sombong dan angkuh jikalau mengikut pemerhatian saya.
Agama yg mereka sembah tu pun lebih kurang sama dengan Hindu.
The problem is that I tak tahu apa nama tuhan mereka..
Macam Kristian sedikit.

Sephiroth Publish time 12-7-2005 08:17 AM

by cclee
       
Orang Sikh lebih sombong dan angkuh jikalau mengikut pemerhatian saya.
Agama yg mereka sembah tu pun lebih kurang sama dengan Hindu.
The problem is that I tak tahu apa nama tuhan mereka..
Macam Kristian sedikit.

Agama mereka mirip kpd Islam dan "Nabi" mereka pula digelar "Guru". Saya pun tak berapa kenal dgn agama mereka juga.

Saya rasa mereka memisahkan diri dgn penganut agama lain kerana tidak mahu agama mereka bercampuraduk dgn agama mereka.

Saya sendiri pun tak berapa suka mereka sangat. Hati mereka macam ada "kekotoran" je saya rasa. No offense attended.

bebeh Publish time 12-7-2005 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 12-7-2005 08:17 AM:
by cclee
       
Orang Sikh lebih sombong dan angkuh jikalau mengikut pemerhatian saya.
Agama yg mereka sembah tu pun lebih kurang sama dengan Hindu.
The problem is that I tak tahu apa nama tuhan ...
actually sikh terlalu taksub dengan ugamanya.......agak sukar bagi kaum sikh yang bercinta dengan banga lain dan akan bertukar agama kepada agama yang selain agam dorang.......because sikh terlalu kuat berpegang kepada agamanya............

dude-x Publish time 12-7-2005 09:28 AM

Perbezaam Antara Sikh dgn Hindu

Perkara                                                                   Sikh                                                            Hindu
Bangsa                                                                  Punjabi                                           Malayalee, Tamil, etc
Bahasa                                                                  Punjabi                                                Tamil, Telugu, etc
Tulisan                                                                  Gurmukhi                                                   Tamil
Konsep Ketuhanan                                          Tuhan hanya satu                                    Berbilang Tuhan
Kitab Suci                                                      Sri Guru Granth Sahib                                       Gita
Perayaan Utama                                                   Vasakhi                                                Deepavali
Tempat Beribadat                                             Gurdwara                                                      Kuil



What are the most important beliefs held by Sikhs?
Sikhs believe:
>- in one God without physical attributes or image but present in all people
   and things
>- in a society where men and women are equal and democracy is practised in
everyday life
>- in earning their living honestly and through hard work
>- in sharing what they earn with the poor
>- in serving God and their fellow human beings

Where do Sikhs worship?
>Sikhs worship at any time and anywhere they happen to be by remembering God
and reading verses from the Guru Granth Sahib. Sikhs also pray together in
the gurdwara (place of worship) which is open to everyone. Inside the
gurdwara, verses from the Guru Granth Sahib are read and sung to music. The
langar, a free community kitchen, is also an important part of the gurdwara.




Please stick to the topic and do NOT judge a religion / community with urpersonal, friends and their neighbour's opinion and experiances.

hammer Publish time 19-9-2006 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Adm_Cheng_Ho at 20-1-2005 05:00 PM
Sikhism adalah campuran Hinduism dan Islam.
macam ajaran ayah pin juge ler....mana dia p sekarang?

[ Last edited byhammer at 19-9-2006 03:18 PM ]

mieza386 Publish time 29-1-2007 04:33 PM

aper yg pernah aku baca, bangsa sikh asalnya diasaskan oleh seorang guru agama di india yg beragama islam, dan guru ini mengajar islam pada kaumnya, iaitu kaum sikh, tetapi ader satu masalah bagi kaum sikh nih adalah kerana mereka terlalu susah untuk meninggalkan adat resam cara hindu, dan telalu sayang pada adat resam hindu yg telah sebati dalam jiwa kaum ini, walaupun mereka bleh menerima agama islam tapi adat resam tetap mereka amalkan,

jadik setelah mati guru agama mereka, jadik org2 kanan nih telah mengubah ajaran tersebut untuk kesesuaian kaum mereka, dalam erti kata, menyeleweng ajaran agama yg benar, dan sebab itu kita bleh tgk agama sikh nih campuran antara agama islam dan hindu...

Sephiroth Publish time 30-1-2007 08:11 AM

Originally posted by mieza386 at 29-1-2007 04:33 PM
aper yg pernah aku baca, bangsa sikh asalnya diasaskan oleh seorang guru agama di india yg beragama islam, dan guru ini mengajar islam pada kaumnya, iaitu kaum sikh, tetapi ader satu masalah bagi ...

Sebenarnya, kaum Sikh dan orang Islam berperang sejak kemasukan Islam ke India pada sekitar 990 AD lagi. Kaum Sikh memencilkan diri mereka dr mereka yg berkulit gelap di kawasan selatan dan menguasai kawasan Utara India. Bila Islam masuk, mereka berperang dgn kaum Sikh.

Mungkin agama Sikh wujud kerana pertingkahan/interaksi antara orang Islam dan orang Sikh.

dude-x Publish time 14-2-2007 12:24 AM

aper yg pernah aku baca, bangsa sikh asalnya diasaskan oleh seorang guru agama di india yg beragama islam.....
   

Mana hang baca. Please provide prove. Just because the use of the word guru, you translated it in your own words and created your own story.

Sikhism has a very specific definition of the         word Guru. It means the descent of divine guidance to mankind provided         through ten Enlightened Masters. This honour of being called a Sikh         Guru applies only to the ten Gurus who founded the religion starting         with Guru Nanak in 1469 and ending with Guru Gobind Singh in 1708; thereafter         it refers to the Sikh Holy Scriptures the Guru Granth Sahib.



Sebenarnya, kaum Sikh dan orang Islam berperang sejak kemasukan Islam ke India pada sekitar 990 AD lagi

Sikhism started since the born of Guru Nanak in October 20, 1469. Your story does not make sense since the very beginning.


http://www.sikh.net/SIKHISM/GURUS/GuruNanak.htm

barney50 Publish time 14-2-2007 10:35 AM

dude-x,

This guys would create all kind of stories to accomodate their religious belief.

Born in 1469 to a Hindu family near the city of Lahore (now a part of Pakistan), Guru Nanak was the founder of Sikhism. The Guru witnessed the Mughal invasion of India, and saw the horrors inflicted upon the common people by the invaders. Though a pacifist, Guru Nanak did not hesitate to speak up against injustice:

The kings are ravenous beasts, their ministers are dogs.

The Age is a Knife, and the Kings are Butchers
In this dark night of evil, the moon of righteousness is nowhere visible.

Guru Nanak laid forth three basic principles by which every human being should abide:
1. Remember the name of God at all times.
2. Earn an honest living as a householder.
3. Share a portion of your earnings with the less fortunate.

elysyle Publish time 12-3-2009 03:36 AM

saya ada kawan hindu ngan sikh .. i sayang semuanya :)

Sephiroth Publish time 13-3-2009 10:01 AM

Man shall not judge; let God judge them according to their actions.

sneha23d Publish time 30-4-2009 12:26 PM

GOOD TOPIC...selama nie i tak pernah fikir pun yang agama sikh nie how they come to world pun...i learn a lot here thanks fren..now i going to search bout them and reply back here... see you later

sneha23d Publish time 30-4-2009 01:41 PM

The Khanda -- the Sikh symbol

Sikhism was founded by Shri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, (1469-1538). At Sultanpur, he received a vision to preach the way to enlightenment and God. He taught a strict monotheism, the brotherhood of humanity. He rejected idol worship, and the oppressive Hindu concept of caste.

The name of the religion means learner. It is often mispronounced 'seek' It should be pronounced 'se-ikh', with the final 'kh' sound like the 'kh' in Mikhail Gorbachev.

Sephiroth Publish time 5-5-2009 10:07 AM

From historical point of view. Sikhism came because of the conflicting views between Islam and Hindusm in the North.

As some people could know, Hindusm is divided into two belief - belief in Maha Vishnu and belief in Maha Eshwara (while many Sages have spoke that both are the Same. Even the Gita state thesame).

When Islam came around 900 AD, it conquered most of the Northern tribe, and established itselfin Delhi to start the Mogul Empire (which lasted till 1600s before the British managed to take over). The people in the North India were in constant fighting with Muslims and in order to combat the influence of Islam, Sikhism came about.

Basically, both beliefs are similar to the core; the only difference is that the Guru is in the place ofMuhammad and Silkh God isn't Allah.

That's reminds me ... what is the name of Sikh God?

worombo Publish time 8-9-2009 11:48 AM

Not sure ... Tak kenal agama orang Sikh. Rasa2nya mereka tak ikut kepercayaan orang Hindu.

Dan, masyarakat Sikh memisahkan diri dgn orang Hindu lain. Masalah dalaman mereka selesaikan sendiri dan m ...
Sephiroth Post at 20-1-2005 08:52 http://eforum6.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif

nampaknya u yg ego, cam tau semua, cam berlagak pandai.
Beza sikh dan hindu adalah, sikh kecil2 bola hoki, sudah besar bola rugby....
U bola hoki ke rugby?

kawankau Publish time 14-9-2009 03:40 PM

isyy..sikh nie agama ker?ingatkan kaum...kaum putih2 sket,besar2 sket....
tuah_r Post at 4-2-2005 16:01 http://forum.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
sikh tu agama ... tapi yang memushkilkan aku adakah ia agama satu kaum... meaning ...
tak kan jumpa didunia ni orang dari kaum lain yang beragama sikh lah kan?

Sephiroth Publish time 15-9-2009 11:38 AM

Setakat ini, tak ada pula saya jumpa orang China yg beragama Sikh, ataupun orang barat atau yg berkulit hitam. Hanya kaum India dr kawasan utara shj yg beragama Sikh.

Mungkin juga seseorang yg dr kaum lain boleh masuk menjadi orang Sikh melalui perkahwinan.

alan86 Publish time 27-9-2009 07:13 PM

Post Last Edit by alan86 at 27-9-2009 19:29

in Hinduism believed the concept of one god n its described that the god can formed in many y and shape, that why god in Hindu describe in many form n shape.......

Sephiroth Publish time 28-9-2009 09:03 AM

by alan86

in Hinduism believed the concept of one god n its described that the god can formed in many y and shape, that why god in Hindu describe in many form n shape.......

True ... it is said in Bhavagad Gita that God is One but the Sages knows Him by many names. Which is why Hindus did not prosecute anyone for their beliefs in India or anywhere else.

Unfortunately, the same respect have not been given to Hindus anywhere - including in India.
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