gogo2 posted on 2-8-2012 07:34 AM

Lagu Merdeka Rais diciplak dari lagu Kristian puja Jesus?

Indonesian gospel music inspired Malaysia¡¯s latest N-Day song?
By Debra Chong
Asst News Editor
August 02, 2012

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/images/uploads/2012/august2012/02/logos-aug2.jpgCombo picture of this year¡¯s National Day logo (bottom, which has since been scrapped after being heavily criticised) versus the logos of previous National Days.

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 2 ¡ª The ¡°Janji Ditepati¡± (Promises Fulfilled) melody picked for National Day celebration this year is heating up the airwaves but for the wrong reasons, with some online users noting its striking resemblance to a 2008 gospel song by Jakarta-based Christian band True Worshippers, featuring Indonesian songstress Ruth Sahanaya.
The latest controversy, coming just days after a public furore forced Putrajaya to axe the badly-designed 55th National Day logo in favour of the 1 Malaysia logo, could see more red cheeks for government officials and could further strain diplomatic ties with the Southeast Asian giant.Malaysia¡¯s chattering class has been critical over the ¡°Janji Ditepati¡± lyrics, penned by Information, Communications and Culture Minister Datuk Seri Rais Yatim but four days ago, they intensified their attacks on popular video-sharing site YouTube, and other social networking sites like Facebook after a blogger who professed to be a Christian pointed out that the song¡¯s melody was strikingly similar to an Indonesian gospel song titled ¡°Serukan Namanya¡± (Call out His name).¡°Lagu tema KEMERDEKAAN MALAYSIA ke 55 kedengaran seperti LAGU Pujian di GEREJA (Malaysia¡¯s 55th National Day theme song sounds like a church praise song),¡± said the anonymous blogger¡¯s July 30 entry.¡°Hal ini lagi mengejutkan sekiranya lagu tema kebangsaan di ambil dari lagu rohani org Kristen¡­ Mungkin kementerian tidak tau tapi seharusnya pencipta lagu ni tdk berbuat demikian (menciplak) sebab did ditugaskan untk membuat lagu tema kemerdekaan. ,¡± the blogger said.

gogo2 posted on 2-8-2012 07:35 AM

The unnamed blogger urged the ministry to demand a refund from the songwriter and to replace the song, which has been panned for its lyrics, with another.

Copies of the posting and video links to both ¡°Janji Ditepati¡± and its comparison to ¡°Serukan Namanya¡± have since gone viral and were repeated on several blogs and online community fora such as Miricommunity.net, an Internet bulletin board popularly-visited by Malaysians who hail from Sarawak, the country¡¯s biggest state.

¡°Amen, Yesuslah Raja!! Tapi sorry ya, Rais Yatim dengan lagu ¡®Janji Ditepati¡¯nya sama style dengan lagu ni (Amen Jesus is King!! But sorry, Rais Yatim with his ¡®Janji Ditepati¡¯ has the same style as this song),¡± said a YouTube commentor under the moniker amoker27 in one of the video clips featuring the Indonesian song here that has seen over 100,000 views since being uploaded on September 5, 2008.

The song, by Christian band True Worshippers, led by Sidney Mohede and whose members include the regionally popular artiste Ruth Sahanaya, was released in their 2008 album ¡°All Things New¡±.

¡°Now i really hate our ministry because duplicate this song and make it political in malaysia. really shame of my own country because of our idiot minister. sorry indonesia!!¡± said another YouTube commenter under the name vandridel.

The apology to Indonesia was in reference to upset Indonesians who attacked Malaysia¡¯s missions in the archipelago, hurling eggs, stones and pieces of wood injuring personnel and damaging property as recently as June, claiming cultural theft after Rais had announced a move to add North Sumatra¡¯s Tortor dance and the Gordang Sambilan drums to the its heritage list.

The two neighbouring countries are known to have a history of political, economic, and cultural friction.

But ¡°Janji Ditepati¡¯s¡± melody was purportedly created by a group of people only identified as Aye, Jasnie, Arman E six.

A YouTube posting of the video clip here has drawn over 255,000 views since it was uploaded on July 27 with over 30,600 dislikes compared to only 415 likes as of this morning.

Rais had also acknowledged the brickbats when he took to Twitter two days ago and invited the public to share their views on the song he wrote.

¡°Apa pandangan sdr tntg lagu janji d tepati? Di utube dah cecah 140k lebih. Tapi yg ¡®ibu jari k bawah¡¯ ada juga (What are your views on the Janji Ditepati song? On YouTube, there are more than 140,000 views. But there are those who have also given it a ¡®thumbs-down¡¯,¡± the minister said on his accountm ‏@DrRaisYatim.

Several singers, songwriters and composers contacted by The Malaysian Insider have also noted the striking similarities between the ¡°Janji Ditepati¡± melody and the gospel song but stopped short of labelling it plagiarism.

¡°Similarities in melody usually would bring up the issue of plagiarism,¡± said music educator Tay Cher Siang, who is also music director for The Venue, a live music space at popular city mall Pavilion.

He agreed that there were many similarities between the two melodies but said that the music scale is limited as it contains only 12 notes. He added that most pop music compositions frequently feature seven notes.

¡°No matter how much I hated the whole ¡®Janji Ditepati¡¯ fiasco, to be fair, I have an ounce of doubt for this issue of plagiarism,¡± he said.

He was loathe to brand it an outright musical theft, saying he had no knowledge if the composers of ¡°Janji Ditepati¡± were aware of the similarities with ¡°Serukan Namanya¡± and had been influenced by the song and sought permission to use the melody or had deliberately reproduced it without attributing the inspiration.

Folk singer and songwriter Meor Yusof Aziddin, 45, echoed Tay¡¯s view, saying the issue of plagiarising musical melodies was very subjective. He pointed out that pop melodies have using the same formula since the Beatles¡¯ era in the 1960s and 1970s.

He noted that the national anthem, ¡°Negaraku¡±, has the same melody as an Indonesian song, ¡°Terang Boelan¡±, and which can be traced back to an 18th-century song, ¡°La Rosalie¡±, by French composer Pierre-Jean de Beranger.

Another independent singer-songwriter-composer, who declined to be named, however, was intrigued by the similarities between the choice National Day melody and gospel music.

gogo2 posted on 2-8-2012 07:37 AM

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The unnamed blogger urged the ministry to demand a refund from the songwriter and to replace the son ...

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skymania posted on 2-8-2012 07:38 AM

kesian orng tua neh..:lol:

kueh_kueh posted on 2-8-2012 07:54 AM

bongok....mane ade same...lain jah bunyinya....telinga da pekak ke uols?

DTECCONAN posted on 2-8-2012 08:02 AM

jadi apa masalahnya? melodi sama tapi lirik lain2..... ;P
ala, melodi baik mana pun tapi lirik mcm sial pun x guna gak ;P

KTMan posted on 2-8-2012 08:17 AM

Rais patut jadi menteri kebudayaan di Indonesia...suka sangat budaya indonesia..lepas satu-satu, tak pasal pasal orang indonesia benci orang malaysia...
orang2 indonesia, please claim dan bawa pulang Datuk Rais yatim.. kitaorang malaysia tak mahu...dah harap tiada lagi isu klaim budaya timbul...

the_killer posted on 2-8-2012 08:21 AM

KTMan posted on 2-8-2012 08:17 AM static/image/common/back.gif
Rais patut jadi menteri kebudayaan di Indonesia...suka sangat budaya indonesia..lepas satu-satu, tak ...

tula..dah keturunan dari sumatera...orang minang pun byk kat nogori...tp depa suda jd melayu...:lol:

azharariff posted on 2-8-2012 08:23 AM

Apa nak jadi daa negara kita ni..  :mad:

KTMan posted on 2-8-2012 08:28 AM

the_killer posted on 2-8-2012 08:21 AM static/image/common/back.gif
tula..dah keturunan dari sumatera...orang minang pun byk kat nogori...tp depa suda jd melayu...:lo ...

dia nak ngaku melayu ok lah...tapi jadilah melayu Malaysia...bukan berjiwa indonesia, kita malaysian berfikiran berlainan depa diorang, mix budaya..bukan lagi pure budaya yang hendak diketengahkan..
hingga hari nih, Rais yatim adalah the worst menteri kebudayaan malaysia...


idadzira posted on 2-8-2012 08:32 AM

aduhai pak rais, tu la asyik dok heret mak nah jer kehulu hilir. x pernah aku tgk mana2 menteri kalau part bagi hadiah bini naik sama atas pentas.

crossfire posted on 2-8-2012 08:33 AM

kueh_kueh posted on 2-8-2012 07:54 AM static/image/common/back.gif
bongok....mane ade same...lain jah bunyinya....telinga da pekak ke uols?

GOGO biasalah, cakap Melayu pun PELAT, ada hati nak komen :lol:

vionna007 posted on 2-8-2012 08:36 AM

sama ke?????

R2D2 posted on 2-8-2012 08:36 AM

aku boleh agak jawapan Rais. lagu tu cuma selingan. lagu sebenarnya kemudian ;P

solstice posted on 2-8-2012 08:42 AM

Perfect disaster
Lelong saja Rais ni ke Indon
Timbang kati

cengeng posted on 2-8-2012 08:49 AM

ada la sikit similarity.. even not too much but still there was certain part that sounds similar. {:limpo

KTMan posted on 2-8-2012 08:51 AM

solstice posted on 2-8-2012 08:42 AM static/image/common/back.gif
Perfect disaster
Lelong saja Rais ni ke Indon
Timbang kati

tak payah lelong...bagi percuma saja..

antagenaiz posted on 2-8-2012 08:54 AM

melodi tu takde masalah pn...tp yg cam haram jadah adalah liriknye... :laugh3:

hani2103 posted on 2-8-2012 09:04 AM

rais..rais...kesian kat ko yek..... nasibla.. org lain dh pencen ..hang duk lagi kat situ....udah-udah ler...

hee_young posted on 2-8-2012 09:06 AM

like i care??? dr logo, slogan smpai ke lagu iolss mmg x minat {:noseo

cmf_premierleag posted on 2-8-2012 09:09 AM

KTMan posted on 2-8-2012 08:17 AM static/image/common/back.gif
Rais patut jadi menteri kebudayaan di Indonesia...suka sangat budaya indonesia..lepas satu-satu, tak ...

mmg pun
aku tgk si rais ni mmg suka sgt budaya indon
rumah dia kat ampang tu pun dgn bumbung minangkabau yg outdated tuh
patut rais ni balik je indon sana
sama level dgn puak2 caprut indon

AHMADVW posted on 2-8-2012 09:09 AM

bapak rais ni sepatutnya jdi menteri kat indonesia, btul2 anak negori caprut

Loxlaxman posted on 2-8-2012 09:11 AM

KTMan posted on 2-8-2012 08:17 AM static/image/common/back.gif
Rais patut jadi menteri kebudayaan di Indonesia...suka sangat budaya indonesia..lepas satu-satu, tak ...

Ya ya ya .. maid maid indonesia pun dia suka suka ...... :lol:

roy3 posted on 2-8-2012 09:20 AM

ape nk jd la bn lahanat nih{:fainto

wartakita posted on 2-8-2012 09:28 AM

KTMan posted on 2-8-2012 08:28 AM static/image/common/back.gif
dia nak ngaku melayu ok lah...tapi jadilah melayu Malaysia...bukan berjiwa indonesia, kita malaysi ...

Hehehehe ..... Rais adalah bagian dari 'Diaspora Indonesia'  yaitu orang-orang asal Indonesia (Nusantara) yang pindah ke negara lain  sejak dahulu hingga kini dengan berbagai reasons ... Walaupun mereka jauh ... tapi hati mereka tetap dekat dengan Kampong Halaman mereka ....:)

Mereka semua adalah asset bagi kemajuan Indonesia (Nusantara) ...:lol:

'My shoes are made in Japan; my trousers are English; and my red hat is Russian; yet, my heart is all Indonesian (Nusantarian).' Similarly, the Indonesian Diaspora Congress is a clear message to all our brothers and sisters living abroad that wherever they are, whatever be their citizenship, they are still Indonesians (Nusantarians) in spirit ....

ttp://www.diasporaindonesia.org/

http://www.diasporaindonesia.org/images/awards_diaspora.jpg
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