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Precious Metals - Gold, Silver etc.

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Post time 11-10-2010 03:06 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by pengecatbintang at 11-10-2010 15:19

sambung..

9) Demand for Silver is "inelastic" in its industrial applications because it is used in such small quantities per application. An increase in price does not translate into a decrease in consumption.

10) The COMEX Silver short position is the largest concentrated short position of any commodity, on any exchange in the history of financial markets.

11) Throughout human monetary history the Silver to Gold ratio hovered in the 10-1 range until the invention of futures and options trading in metals. After the massive manipulation maneuvers by the Banking Cabal the silver-gold ratio now stands at over 62-1.

12) The US Dollar as defined in the Coinage Act of 1792 is Silver, not Gold, and contains "three hundred and seventy-one grains and four sixteenth parts of a grain of pure, or four hundred and sixteen grains of standard silver."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar

13) Silver is massively under reported in the media vs. Gold. Even Jim Rogers, the commodity guru, purposefully ignores Silver entirely in his best selling book "Hot Commodities" even though Silver exceeds all other commodities using his metrics on what makes a strong commodity.

14) Very few investors have physical Silver in their possession. Reasoning: because they claim it is "too hard to store". Does that mean when Silver trades at over $1,000 oz people will be more willing to buy and store physical Silver? It is difficult to make up a more bullish argument to take delivery and store physical Silver TODAY...when the Cabal price rigging scam finally fails you can always buy your own Fort Knox to store all that pesky Silver you bought!

15) Gold's strong fundamentals are only exceeded by Silver's so when the gold manipulation stops and the Gold price takes off investors will be looking for the next under-priced investment with similar characteristics.

16) 470M oz of Silver owned by the US Treasury and used in the Manhattan Project for the construction of the atom bomb have all been melted down and sold into the physical market to support the "Strong Dollar Policy"

The Great Silver Mystery...REVEALED!

http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/135.cfm

17) Silver mineral deposits, as opposed to Gold, are usually very shallow in the earth's crust due to the nature of the geology so most of the large deposits of Silver have probably already been found and/or already mined limiting future discoveries.

18) There is a significant problem with counterfeit Gold coins and bars because of its high price. Silver coins and small bars have not, to date, had as much of a counterfeiting issue because its price did not justify the effort. (although there is a problem with counterfeit Silver jewelry which may significantly suppress Silver scrap recovery in the future...oddly bullish by-product of counterfeiting Silver!)

19) The total dollar value of the Silver market is a fraction of the total dollar value of the Gold market.

20) Most flat screen televisions use Silver in their internal electronics/screens and the US transfer from analog to digital signals has increased the demand for flat screen TV's.

21) Retail physical shortages of Silver are already beginning to appear around the world. The list of announced delays/curtailment by Government owned Mints now includes EVERY MAJOR SILVER COIN PRODUCING COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!

22) Hedge funds are bleeding from the credit crunch and they are looking for ways to save themselves. A single hedge fund can scoop up the remaining physical Silver and blow the price sky high.

23) In the US, Gold confiscation laws are still on the books but there are currently no silver confiscation laws.

24) As of late 2010 the Gold price gold is hovering around $1,300 or 150% of its historical high. Silver, on the other hand, is hovering around $21 or 42% of it's historical high suggesting that Silver has a long way still to go.

25) Un-backed paper Silver programs such as silver certificates and unallocated pooled accounts are the "industry standard" these days and will be scrambling for metal when redemptions are called in by the investors. The most egregious example of fractional reserve silver is the iShares Silver ETF (SLV).

26) In the past few years the massive global money creation by central banks around the world has created huge reservoirs of cash sloshing around the asset markets looking for a safe haven. Although most mainstream press have discussed Gold as being a likely bucket to fill with this monetary firehouse, SILVER has all the same monetary metal properties as Gold except the Silver market is SO small it would be like FILLING A DIXIE CUP WITH THE FIREHOUSE!

27) The CFTC still has an open investigation into the manipulation of the SILVER market that is being conducted not by their investigative division but by the CFTC "Enforcement Division". Although the final conclusions have been purposefully delayed by the CFTC, the final outcome may finally be the END OF THE 50 YEAR MANIPULATION OF THE SILVER MARKET!

28) During the CFTC hearing on metal position limits, GATA announced that a whistleblower has come forward with specific proof that JP Morgan was rigging the silver market. The next day he and his wife were rammed in their car in an attempted murder. The suspect was caught but the police are not giving out any information about the suspect or others that were involved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9bU0r6JP4s
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Post time 11-10-2010 03:07 PM | Show all posts
sambung lagi..

29) The growth of emerging economies in Asia will require more and more industrial silver to build out their electric infrastructure and provide a higher standard of living for their middle class. In a global market that has been in a silver supply deficit for years a silver bidding war will result in order to obtain the significant amounts of silver needed.

30) The truth about gold and silver price manipulation is spreading like wildfire throughout the world with the help of the internet such that the Banksters "shabby secret" is no longer a secret.

31) The US Dollar has run it's course as the world's reserve currency. The entire global financial markets know this and are positioning themselves accordingly. The "Dollar End Game" for the United States has never been to transfer economic power to Eastern countries as the dollar dies but rather crash the global markets and start fresh with a new domestically centered economic model. That transition is upon us:

http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/261.cfm



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Well, now do you think SILVER is both more important and a better investment than your gold?
Hopefully, that's enough pro-Silver data to convince you to make the switch.

What About Gold?

There are some pro-Gold items which, in fairness, should be weighed against all the pro-Silver arguments:

1) Gold does not tarnish. (That's nice but hardly a reason not to make the switch)

2) Gold is promoted and perceived by the world as the "Greatest Monetary Metal"....at least for now!

Not to be "anti-gold" but from my calculations there is 10x the amount of physical gold in the world regardless of what the "mainstream gold media" claims...meaning there is OVER 1 MILLION TONS OF PHYSICAL GOLD!

Golden Secrets

http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/181.cfm

Also, my calculations on silver estimate that there is 10x LESS silver in the world because of all the potentially phony physical silver ETF bars out there...

Silver "Moly-Bars"

http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/212.cfm

Don't worry about Gold....really. Gold, like Silver, will find its rightful place in a freely traded market. It should take less than a few $Billion of physical Silver purchases to buy up all of the available Silver bullion, and that would only mean switching out of about 200 tons of Gold on a physical basis. 200 tons would not significantly damage the price of gold. Now $10B removed from GLD/SLV, Gold/Silver Pooled Accounts, Gold/Silver mining stocks, etc. would be much better for the price of Gold and should not cause any permanent damage to the gold investment community. As a matter of fact, can you think of anything more positive for the price of gold and gold investments than the destruction of the Banking Cabal?!

So what should be the true price of Silver today?

I don't know but I do know that the price quoted on the COMEX and LME are not even close to silver's "Fair Market Value". It makes more sense to me to estimate the true price of Silver in relation to another "Monetary Commodity" such as Gold since gold is currently "perceived" as the best monetary metal.

* Based on my estimates of total above and below ground Silver (17Boz) and Gold (8Boz) the Silver/Gold Ratio should be 2.1-1. With Gold trading at $1,300/oz Silver should be trading at $619/oz or is 29X UNDERVALUED!

* Based on my estimates of total above ground Silver (5Boz) and Gold (5Boz) the Silver/Gold Ratio should be 1-1. With Gold trading at $1,300/oz Silver should be trading at $1,300/oz or is 62X UNDERVALUED!

* Based on my estimates of total monetary bullion above ground Silver (1Boz) and Gold (3Boz) the Silver/Gold Ratio should be 1-3. With Gold trading at $1,300/oz Silver should be trading at $3,900/oz or is 186X UNDERVALUED!

Of course all this is predicated on the assumption that gold is fairly valued at $1,300oz today which almost everyone agrees is a joke. Since the USA holds a little over 8,100 tons of gold in reserve (supposedly) it is logical to assume that Gold will back the US dollar when the fiat money system fails (not hard to imagine the failure of the US dollar). With the US M3 money supply currently estimated to be in the $14 Trillion dollar range, the price of a redeemable gold backed US dollar would be about $54,000/oz IF the US stopped printing dollars today.

The $54,000/oz Monetary Gold price would put the value of monetary above ground Silver bullion, as analyzed in the last bullet point above, at....

.... $162,000 per oz!

Crazy, I know, but it really doesn't end there!

Based on the FACT that Silver is being consumed 120% faster than it is currently being mined/produced and the Gold above ground supplies are growing at 2% per annum the Silver/Gold Ratio Formula should be [(Above Ground Silver)(80%) to (Above Ground Gold)(102%)]. With Gold trading at a massively manipulated low price of $1,300oz, Silver should be approaching INFINITY AND IS INFINITY(X) UNDERVALUED!

Wow....chilling conclusions...have you traded your Gold for Silver yet?

May the Road you choose be the Right Road.

Bix Weir

For MORE information on Silver Manipulation visit:

http://www.roadtoroota.com/

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Post time 12-10-2010 01:55 AM | Show all posts
pergh..panjang giler artikel.
ni kena print out dulu ni

silver ni klu kita beli, selain PG, kat mana lagi boleh jual?

btw, harga emas mmg naik melambung2
hari ni 20gm dah jadi 3060
huhu...sayang rasa nak jual emas sendiri
takut diri sendiri lak yg tak mampu nak beli balik emas utk simpanan sendiri nanti
tak sampai 2 bulan, dah untung byk gini
mmg SANGAT UNTUNG berbanding simpan kat bank

agaknya tahun depan, mau cecah 4000k x?
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Post time 12-10-2010 02:47 PM | Show all posts
pergh..panjang giler artikel.
ni kena print out dulu ni

silver ni klu kita beli, selain PG, kat  ...
cmf_comei Post at 12-10-2010 01:55



rsnya agen2 PG ada ambk jgk kot... beberapa minggu nie harga emas mmang lain mcm skit melantun2 die naik...hehe... ejen2 PG dh bleh berkira2 untung la time nie     sy pn rs syg jer nk jual, simpan dlu je la kasi kumpul2 dlu dh byk skit br jual... x mustahil harga emas bleh naik lg myb thn dpn kite dh x dpt rs lg nk beli harga mcm skang nie...huhu
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Post time 15-10-2010 03:10 PM | Show all posts
salam semua..

ade beza tak beli emas seketul gold bar 999 dgn barang kemas..cam rantai ke gelang ke tapi emas 999...xmo 916..

aku beli emas dinar 916 PG tapi bile pegi arrahnu.bacaan 875@21k
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Post time 15-10-2010 07:16 PM | Show all posts
salam semua..

ade beza tak beli emas seketul gold bar 999 dgn barang kemas..cam rantai ke gelang  ...
freshoren Post at 15-10-2010 15:10


arrahnu mana yg awk pegi tue? sy gi arrahnu ok jer, die trima as 916 utk dinar emas tue camne dinar awk bleh lain plak?

apa kata awk gi try tnya arrahnu lain, sy mcm x caya jer dinar PG nie bkn 916 takkan diorg salah bt plak....
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Post time 15-10-2010 09:18 PM | Show all posts
arrahnu mana yg awk pegi tue? sy gi arrahnu ok jer, die trima as 916 utk dinar emas tue camne di ...
lostnfaun Post at 15-10-2010 19:16



    agro bank banting..
saya ngamok jugak tapi officer tu dah cek 3 4 kali..
pastu kol dealer n dia kata kadang2 1 dinar mmg susah nak baca sket..kalo 5 dinar tepat bacaannye
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Post time 16-10-2010 02:20 AM | Show all posts
Reply 238# freshoren


    aku rasa mmg ada beza..
gold bar 999 tu maybe mahal sket...
916 ni xpenah beli la plak..
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Post time 17-10-2010 02:11 PM | Show all posts
salam...sy pun baru berjinak2 ngan PG...yg leceh tu PG xde branch kat sabah...kena amk stok kat kl sndri...harap2 dorg bukak 1 branch kat cni le nanti...susah le klu ulang-alik kk-kl tiap kali nak g beli...huhuhu...
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Post time 17-10-2010 08:23 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by 220796 at 17-10-2010 20:24

perbezaan Akaun Emas Maybank / Public Bank / Kuwait Finance


No
Item
Maybank
Public Bank
KFHMB
1
Concept
Conventional
Conventional
Ba'i As-Sarf
&
Qardh
2
Initial purchase
5 gms
20 gms
10 gms
3
Min. balance
1 gm
2 gms
2 gms
4
Physical gold withdrawal
10,20 and 50gms
NA
1,5,10 and 50gms
5
Documents
Passbook
Passbook
Statement
6
Fees & Charges
Conversion charge on physical gold withdrawal
Annual fee RM10 - year end bal. below 10gms

NA





so mane yg bagus ek?

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Post time 17-10-2010 10:03 PM | Show all posts
system_failure dh beli gold bar?
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Post time 18-10-2010 09:49 AM | Show all posts
Reply 244# 220796


   
takde duit...
aku org miskin je.... keje sapu sampahhh.. huhu..
kalau ade jumpe tin2 kosong / sokabar lame.. barulah ade site income sikit....

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Post time 18-10-2010 11:12 AM | Show all posts
sape agent ye?
leh bagitau tak kenape kat agent sini aku dapat rege murah..agent sane aku dapat rege mahal sket walaupon murah dari harga semasa..
kenape harga lain2 ye?
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Post time 18-10-2010 04:01 PM | Show all posts
sape agent ye?
leh bagitau tak kenape kat agent sini aku dapat rege murah..agent sane aku dapat reg ...
freshoren Post at 18-10-2010 11:12



myb depend pd stok yg die jual pd awk kot...kdg2 ada agen xambk untung byk sgt sbb die die still untung lg2 bl stok yg die ambk pd ms tue harga tgh murah...
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Post time 18-10-2010 10:27 PM | Show all posts
Reply 240# freshoren


    salam freshoren,sy trima 1 dinar pg utk pajakan sy bg hrge we buy pg tolak siap kos upah simpan rm15 sbulan.so next month u dtg bawa duit amount u pinjam aje,saya pulangkn barang balik.kalau nak sambung saya tengok hrge we buy pg masa tu dan siap tolak rm15 sebulan lagi.ofer ni sy boleh bg dlm 4-5 dinar sebulan aje tq 0193887098.
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Post time 18-10-2010 10:34 PM | Show all posts
Reply 242# eiz_joe


    salam eiz-joe sya boleh supply kat sabah jugak,sy ada kaki kat labuan,hrge mcm dlm web,kadang2 sy ofer win2 situation diskaun 0,75% dr hrg we sell pg,tapi transport charge yg pg kenakn dan kurier charge kenalah byr.itukn lbih murah dr tket kk-kl tmbang murah bah. tq.0193887098
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Post time 19-10-2010 10:38 AM | Show all posts
lostnfaun..tq for d info..
maziah..menarik tu..nanti ape2 saya pm awak..
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Post time 22-10-2010 01:59 AM | Show all posts
lama xjenguk benang ni
freshoren,knp xminta tukar je ngan agen yg awak beli tu?
try gi kat arrahnu lain
klu bacaan sama, minta tukar la
xboleh biar je

agen bg harga berbeza sbb ikut harga emas stok dia
klu stok yg beli 6 bulan lps, dah tentu lebih murah dr harga skg kan?
sbb tu boleh offer harga kurang sket

tp as a registered agent, xdigalakkan buat offer gini terang2an
xcomei unless klu penjual bebas
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Post time 22-10-2010 08:23 AM | Show all posts
lama xjenguk benang ni
freshoren,knp xminta tukar je ngan agen yg awak beli tu?
try gi kat arrahnu ...
cmf_comei Post at 22-10-2010 01:59



betul tue comei, dlu rsnya kebykkan agen PG nie jual ikut market price x kira la tue stok lama ke stok br tp bl dh ramai agen2 PG so persaingan makin sengit jd mcm2 cara die offer supaya dpt buyer...tp bgs jgk camtu untung pembeli jgk...

harga emas skang nie dh makin melantun2 spai ada yg takut nk beli...
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Post time 22-10-2010 12:06 PM | Show all posts
Salam>sape kata emas melantun2.Aku br dapat berita emas turun(bar),agent suruh grab.Pening aaaaar dgn spekulasi korang main emas ni.aku dah beli tp sikitttttttt je utk permulaan.
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