On global warming: Latest - unsettling weather in Penang (merged: wei loon)

lemon8

hitler did help reduce human pop lol now its bush time to help reduce arabs pop lol, persians next wahahaha....

VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS!! ^_^

free2rhyme

on recreation and lost arc


We can only guess of what happen millions of years in the past so any theory that we can come up with is not solid proof ...... Islam tells me not to hold on to any claim of knowledge based on mere conjecture and guessing but to always verify it's source and to use my common sense to validate its authenticity....

You might ask why then I can believe what Quran says about what happen in the past .... I use my common sense to validate it. The Quran need to be studied and understood in its entirety to truly see its message.... you cannot pick randomly one or two verses and make your judgement based on those verses alone ....Every verse in the Quran is interconnected with one another so one cannot simply take some verses and expect them to explain the whole Quran.

lemon8

is it like reading harry potter? lol too many hocus pocus wahahaha

free2rhyme

lol  rotfl

hyphrigian

global warming leads to big freezing.....
we are heading towards ice age....
tadi tengok discovery channel....

lemon8

lol kejab kato panas kejap kato sejuk sonata.... no moderation? i guess mother nature is also extreamist in nature like humans wahahaha...

lemon8

ermm tanpa ozone camne blh sejuk? lol

free2rhyme

Harry potter comes from human imagination .  What is in the story is not in accordance with what can be witnessed happen in nature so thus unlogical and nicely put hocus pocus .....

Quran speaks about what happen around us that can be witnessed and verified , naturally, physically, emotionally , geografically, etc so its totally different than any Harry Potter.

free2rhyme

You said :  to reduce human population.........



Equilibrium is not about  reducing...... Death when occured naturally cannot be put in the same light as death when occured forcefully by man's action

senang cakap la, just like man made pollution is not the same as volcanic eruption since we can choose to not pollute  but we cannot choose to control the volcano, the same goes with death , human can choose not to kill, but they cannot choose not to die naturally.

free2rhyme

your laughter is contagious ...

free2rhyme

even buddism teaching are contradictory.... want you to find the balance


may be you can ebaborate it more clearly coz I don't understand what u mean by that....

free2rhyme

Why the evil actions of man cannot be considered as natural phenomenon since man is part of nature as well...?

According to Islam, apart from man and jin, nature has no choice , it cannot choose to do or not to do something,  whatever happen in nature has been set by God for the benefit of nature's own equilibrium so any kind of natural occurences  are good...thus Islam prohibit to curse nature when any natural phenomenon occurs ......

We on the other hand have the freedom to choose to do evil or good, God has decreed that if we choose to do good, then the concequence of our good deeds  can bring improvement to nature's equilibrium but if we choose to do evil then the concequence of our evil deeds actually bring imbalances to nature's equilibrium .  Those imbalances can make our life miserable and uncomfortable . When imbalances occur in nature, nature will go into the process of rectifying the imbalances. We are free to choose thus we are not puppets or robots but we are not free to choose the concequences of our action be it good or evil.

Example :
That is why polluting the river is considered as evil in Islam because it will create imbalances in our ecosystem. The symptom of those imbalances is the impact of pollution that we can see happen in our polluted rivers which can make our life uncomfortable and miserable . But it is not nature that we should worry about because nature has the God given ability to rectify any imbalances. It's us that we should worry about because its our life that is going to be miserable by those imbalances.....Thus the function of Islam is to prevent imbalances from occur in nature but one needs to adopt it fully in order for it to fully function as such.

free2rhyme

If one says that natural death is to reduce earth population then what Hitler did should be said as helping nature reaching its equilibrium just like Lemon commented but that's not so because natural death is to balance the population and thus improving the equilibrium in nature....

When human choose to kill others, then they are actually causing chaos to the natural balance that exists in nature.... when Islam tells human not to kill others then Islam simply is preventing such chaos from taking place. ...

free2rhyme

Homicide and pollution can cause great suffering and misery to  human beings , so Islam provides a solution to that.

That is why according to the Quran Islam is the greatest blessing of God for the entire universe because it preserves the equilibrium that exists but to achieve that its teaching needs to be fully adopted ....

free2rhyme

How does earth rectify any imbalances which caused by us human?

By constantly evolving , developing and adapting . That is the nature of our planet. According to Islam, before our modern time, there existed generations after generations of human populations that were much much more modern than us with their technologies and civilizations so much more advance than us now so naturally not only us that cause corruptions on earth but them as well, but still we can see how our earth is still properous and habitable now even after the so many pollutions caused by them for thousands of years way back...

free2rhyme

About doomsday.

You might ask why the need for the entire universe to be totally destroyed on doomsday, why not just earth.

All of us are created beings . But God is not a created being thus God is immortal and is not comparable with any of His creations . All created beings are mortal, meaning we will all one day face destruction one way or the other. Created beings = whatever that exists in the entire universe....so the function of doomsday is for us to come to the realization of the mortality of all created beings . Why the need to come to such realization? So that we will not worship created beings that have no power whatsoever, that will all one day face destructions. wh

hyphrigian

Originally posted by lemon8 at 27-3-2007 19:12
lol kejab kato panas kejap kato sejuk sonata.... no moderation? i guess mother nature is also extreamist in nature like humans wahahaha...

banyak benda yang complicated sangat....
u kena tengok sendiri laa......
baru u paham...

free2rhyme

Can our evil actions bring about imbalances within us, physically , mentally, emotionally ? According to Islam yes, they can and will . Because God has decreed that the nature of evil action = imbalance , so naturally it will make equilibrium in nature and within ourselves chaotic. So by avoiding evil deeds we are actually preserving the equilibrium within us and by doing good deeds we are actually improving the equilibrium.

That is why Islam says that any human who choose to do evil then they are only causing harm to themselves  which means that they are only spreading imbalances within themselves ... while nature has the God given ability to rectify any imbalances that occur, we us human do not possess such ability...  if we want to rectify the imbalances that have taken place within us then the only way to do it is by doing good deeds because good deeds improves our equilibrium thus rectifying the imbalances . We see nature constantly struggling to maintain its equilibrium (thru evolving, developing and adapting ) , we human must do the same too. We must also struggle to improve and preserve our equlibrium  just like nature does . According to Islam this struggle is the biggest struggle that human must undertake.

wei_loon5063

okie..... as in buddism teacing, it is not like islam or christain like god say this,.... you must do
this.... in buddism, the teaching are more to phylosoply
give you few example....
money can do anything but not buy health........... right?? the two thing contradict each other
let`s be realistic..... nowadays.... you rally cant buy health with money if you got HIV....
same for health........ if you have all the health but not single wealth.. wat for??
so the balance.... got average money and health........ if you too much of one, you`ll lost the other
buddism teaching is about to free from suffering... now worship god....
it the example above, if you got all the money in the world but a disease you cant heal;
you are as fit as cow.. but u cant afford a meal....
u`ll suffer if you got either of the two inbalance

[ Last edited by  wei_loon5063 at 28-3-2007 10:31 PM ]

wei_loon5063

Homicide and pollution can cause great suffering and misery to  human beings , so Islam provides a solution to that

wat solution??