[merged thread] Alexander

JUSTcircle

saper yg dah tengok? story skit!
tengok trailer mcm gempaq..ader ala2 perang mcm troy ngan LOTR..

[ Last edited by JUSTcircle on 27-11-2004 at 12:31 AM ]

Aku tengok review macam tak bagus je...
5.7 out of 10 di Imdb
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0346491/

Don't worry, review dia bertukar depending on how many voters out there, 5.7 cuma dari 1099 voters je, bila ramai nanti, ratingnya mungkin bertukar...

Comment seekor reviewer tentang cerita ni dari Imdb

Oleh johnny_betts (johnny_betts@hotmail.com)

What makes the movie so bad? Let's examine just a few details.

* The dialogue is embarrassingly bad at times. Anthony Hopkins actually has to use a line in which he states that Alexander never lost a battle except to Hephaistion's thighs. Or something like that. It's a reference to them wrestling as teenagers, but it's horribly awkward dialogue. Absolutely laughable.

* I don't care how realistic it is, but teenage boys wrestling in big diapers look ridiculous. The fact that we can see Alexander's big diaper under his army skirt is even worse.

* What is up with Alexander's hair? He has bad hair in every stage of life. It looks extremely fake, especially the bad dye job. The worst was the mullet. For a minute there I thought I was watching David Spade as Joe Dirt.

* A lot of controversy has surrounded the relationship between Alexander and Hephaistion (Leto). I don't know if Alexander was actually bisexual, so I'm not really gonna speculate. I simply haven't researched the subject enough to know. But everybody involved with the movie claims that the relationship isn't really meant to be looked at in a sexual manner. Could've fooled me. The sappy dialogue between the two is painfully embarrassing, as evidenced by the theater audience's laughter. They hug, pledge their devotion to each other, use mock poetic language, etc. When Hephaistion told Alexander that he was the sun to him and that he was jealous of losing him to the world, all while undressing him with his eyes, I started to wonder what gay soap opera I had accidentally stumbled upon. Sorry, but that's not exactly what I want to see in what is supposed to be an epic war movie.

* Oliver Stone somehow failed at character development, despite the fact that he had three hours to work with. It would've been nice to know what exactly drove and inspired the characters. For example, Alexander sees Roxane (Rosario Dawson) dance and then the next thing you know they're getting married. Why did he choose her of all the women dancing? I don't know, nor will you after watching the movie.

* The love scene between Colin Farrell and Rosario Dawson is very strange. I kept expecting some wonka wonka porn music to start playing. When Farrell let out a little cat-like growl I shook my head and started to look around the theater for the exits.

* File "Transvestite-Looking Men Belly Dancing For an Extended Period of Time" under "Scenes I Hope to Never See Again in Life." Then to make it worse, Farrell kissed the guy afterwards. Sigh. Three hours, folks. Three hours I'll *never* get back. I'm WARNING you.

I could on, talking about the over-the-top acting, the messy editing, the lack of story cohesion, etc., but I've wasted enough of my time on this movie.

The biggest failure of Alexander is that after the credits rolled, I was left with the question, "What exactly was the point of the movie?" What exactly was Stone trying to accomplish? The subject is Alexander the Great, so why, after three hours, does Stone not give us any real insight into his military mind?

Why was Alexander so great? Stone just doesn't tell us. The movie gave me no reason to root for the guy. Anthony Hopkins' narration tells us his accomplishments, but the movie itself doesn't really show us what made him such a great conqueror.

Stone claims to have a great awe and respect for Alexander. If this is true, then why does he leave us with the impression that Alexander was a boring whiner? Why are we left scratching our heads in amazement that Alexander conquered the world?

I would say "nice try," but I can't even give Mr. Stone that much credit. I doubt even Alexander himself could sit through this.

Rating: 2 (out of 5)

dollah_mufc

aku dah tengok alexander , masa tayangan primier hotlink rabu ari tu.. perghh lama beno 3 jam.. best tang lawan2 ajer, lwn dgn gajah tu paling ganas , nampak mcm kena langgar dgn kereta kebal ajer..:lol
.. versi ni alexander l , jantan sebat betina pun sebat , dua alam..:lol.. mcm gay gay pun ader.. tgk jantan jambu ajer , berahi
dan versi ni alexande mati tak mcm dgn cerita2 sejarah.. tapi mati dgn..( spoiler lak krg )..:cak:..

banding dgn troy , alexeder ok lagi , dgn gladiator.. best lagi russel crowe..

[ Last edited by dollah_mufc on 27-11-2004 at 08:41 AM ]

seafoamgreen

nak tengok jugak citer Alexander ni.. start open hari khamis ni :cak:

king_kong

kenapa semua review critics alexander gila?
teruk sangat ke movie alexander nih?
aku x tgk lagi and very eager to watch it since im a big fan of epic-war movie..
but reading all the reviews....psikola plak nak spend RM8 ngan duk dlm wayang slame 3 jam...

so anyone yg dah tgk...bole review sikit tak..and rating sekali
thanks bye

brilianxx

Originally posted by HangPC2 at 20-10-2004 12:38 PM:
malaysia pun ader buat filem tajuk dier ''ISKANDAR'' lollol

somehow aku paham lawak kao hehehehe

ISKANDAR bhs melayu...ALEXANDER englishnya lollol:lol

tp ISKANDAR tu gay tak mcm alexander?

sawie

JUSTcircle

Originally posted by king_kong at 27-11-2004 03:26 PM:
kenapa semua review critics alexander gila?
teruk sangat ke movie alexander nih?
aku x tgk lagi and very eager to watch it since im a big fan of epic-war movie..
but reading all the reviews....p ...

samerlah aku...aku suker giler filem2 perang yg camni dr perang yg guna bom, senapang ngan jet..nampak x best..
kalo perang zaman2 lampau ni best..tengok kstum pun seronok jer..

gjoy_chester

Hm...untuk kefirsttimenye aku tgk wayang 2 kali dalam masa seminggu..Mula2 tgk Shutter pastu Alexander...Waktu Alexander tu full gak pawagam sampai aku dapat barisan 3 dari depan..x best betul ...tapi memang berbaloi la aku tercongok selama 3 jam tengok Alexander...rasa puas...penonton lain pun sama...tapi aku rase Alexander ni takkan semenarik ni kalau takde unsur homoseksual tu coz aku rasa ramai yg tgk Alexander nak tgk pasal benda nilah...tapi mungkin Oliver ni nak menunjukkan yang Alexander ni punyai kelemahan dan kelebihan...Kelebihannya di medah perang dah kelamahannya ialah homoseksual..Lakonan semua pelakon best...pelakon Alexander waktu kecil memang seiras ngan Alexande rwaktu besar....Angelina Jolie pun best...Jared pun best...

nevberg

Originally posted by gjoy_chester at 29-11-2004 12:25:
Hm...untuk kefirsttimenye aku tgk wayang 2 kali dalam masa seminggu..Mula2 tgk Shutter pastu Alexander...Waktu Alexander tu full gak pawagam sampai aku dapat barisan 3 dari depan..x best betul ...t ...

hehehhe....memamg filem ni dalam list yang bakal ditonton....minggu ni kot...

gjoy_chester

Tapi review untuk filem ni memang teruk...ramai pengkritik tak suka filem ni coz ramai yang kata filem ni menjaja isu homoseksual yang tak sepatutnye...isu tu melemahkan lagi plot Alexander...

fly_in_d_sky

ff:
iklan jap
thread Alexander dah ada .. so Fly mergekan kan ...

keane

dah keluar pun vcd pirate citer ni......pada aku tak best mana pun citernya.....
yang aku suka part perang je....

jinakji

smlm aku baru dpt tgk.. terserlah propaganda us.. dlm adegan alex kejar king darius.. pastu jumpa darius penuh berjambang (cam saddam hussin).. king darius dikianati oleh komandernya sendiri... pastu masuk kota babylon (skrg iraq) dpt sambutan meriah sebagai tentera pembebasan.. bencinya aku ngan us... dlm byk2 citer berunsur perang dahulukala.. troy, king arthur... citer inilah yg paling rasa aku tak best.. lagi satu oliver stone ni suka sgt teori konspirasi.. cam citer JFK lak...

Semalam aku tengok cerita Alexander. Ok saja cerita tu.
Cuma tak faham macamana diaorang boleh gambarkan Alexander tu bi sexual...  boleh suka kat jantan pulak...Geram pun ada. Bukankah Alexander tu dalam Islam seorang nabi. Isk.
Apa pendapat korang?

there's already an Alexander thread, why didn't you post there?

sori...saya tak jumpa pun

just still on the page...
http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=132774&fpage=1

citer nih macam promote ponsdans pun yek

seafoamgreen

baru jer tengok Alexander tadi.. bagi aku citer ni ok jer.. perhaps better than Troy.. tapi cukuplah tengok sekali jer, tak nak tengok lagi la..