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[MERGED] Apa Sebenarnya Terjadi Selepas Melaka Diserang Portugis ?

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Post time 5-8-2010 01:46 PM | Show all posts
hehhe.. memang ader nama tu dlm senerai kerabat di raja johor.. dan ader dlm senerai tu x berapa tepat.. maybe masih blum di edit sepenuhnya.....
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Post time 5-8-2010 01:48 PM | Show all posts
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   afja kan rajin speku.. wahahahaa.....
anonymous Post at 5-8-2010 13:36



    aha afja mmg teret berspeku .... sonok gak baca ..tapi satu speku psl Tun Fatimah 'hilang'... tak berapa telly dgn info yg ada sbb Tun Fatimah tak hilang ... nak kata dia bersekongkol dgn Portugis tak logik sbb Portugis 'marah' kat Tun Mutahir n geng sbb tangkap dan seksa tawanan portugis .. tu yg Al burquerque beria2 keja naodabegue tu  ...klu tak silap tawanan portugis tu mengadu  kena circumcised dan dipaksa masuk islam ...
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Post time 5-8-2010 01:57 PM | Show all posts
Reply 365# ea208964


ekekeke.... tu speku kat trid uneks....
hasil speku sapa ntah aritu
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:00 PM | Show all posts
Ayutthaya (Thai: อาณาจักรอยุธยา, RTGS: Anachak Ayutthaya, also Ayudhya) was a Siamese kingdom that existed from 1351 to 1767. Ayutthaya was friendly towards foreign traders, including the Chinese, Vietnamese (Annamese), Indians, Japanese and Persians, and later the Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch and French, permitting them to set up villages outside the city walls. In the sixteenth century, it was described by foreign traders as one of the biggest and wealthiest cities in the East. The court of King Narai (1656–1688) had strong links with that of King Louis XIV of France, whose ambassadors compared the city in size and wealth to Paris.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayutthaya_Kingdom
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:02 PM | Show all posts
From the fifteenth century, Ayutthaya showed an interest in the Malay Peninsula, where the great trading port of Malacca contested its claims to sovereignty. Ayutthaya launched several abortive conquests on Malacca. Due to the military support of Ming China, Malacca was diplomatically and economically fortified. In the early fifteenth century the Ming Admiral Zheng He had established one of his bases of operation in the port city, so the Chinese could not afford to lose such a strategic position to the Siamese. Under this protection, Malacca flourished into one of Ayutthaya's great foes, until its conquest in 1511 by the Portuguese.[5]
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:03 PM | Show all posts
Reply 364# anonymous


    tapi klu tguk royalark pon ..ada disclaimer kan ... pasal klu salah tulun betulkn .. mcm pantun  buah cempedak pulak ..


satu lagi org dulu2 suka recycle nama ..tapi klu tguk Kerabat johor skrg pon still buat jugak kan  ...mungkin 500 tahun lagi pon dah mengkonpiuskan  .. gelaran mana refer pada raja mana ...
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:03 PM | Show all posts
mungkin tun fatimah... dh kene tawan or kene tangkap n dibwa lari.... oleh portugis barang kali..... nk cerita2 n kait kanbenda ni smua kene ader gambo rajah.... n tnjuk kan kaitan2 smua2 nie.. baru leh uraikan dgn lebih detailll hehehe
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:05 PM | Show all posts
Reply 367# afja


   rasanyer.. sbelum kerajaan ayuthia.. masih ader kerajaan lama siam.... mcm dlm cerita.. suriothai... hehehe.. denasti U-thong... hehehhe.... so klo nk tgok memang pnjang kerajaan2 lama nie.. heheheh
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:06 PM | Show all posts
Reply 369# ea208964


   tp ader yg dh di suruh.. maybe cuma lum update rasanyer.. heheheh.... sbb anon tgok masih belum tertuko2 lg.. hehehe
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:09 PM | Show all posts
Kings of Ayutthaya

1st Uthong Dynasty (1350-1370)
1st Suphannaphum Dynasty (1370-1388)
2nd Uthong Dynasty (1388-1409)
2nd Suphannaphum Dynasty (1409-1569)
Sukhothai Dynasty (1569-1629)
Prasat Thong Dynasty (1630-1688)
Ban Phlu Luang Dynasty (1688-1767)


gegehnya mekk. tak sangka. walau pun hasil pakcik wiki ajek
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:12 PM | Show all posts
Reply 374# afja

wah bagus afja dah keep the ball rolling ...nnti adalah sambungan dia ...
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:16 PM | Show all posts
Reply 374# afja


   pergh.. memang gigih.. dlm bnyk2 ni.. mana satu yg muslim...??? hehehehhe
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:17 PM | Show all posts
Reply 373# ea208964


   mean dia masih hidup lg masa tue.. klo dikatakan cam tue.. tp makam nya?? eehehhe napa sultan2 dulu2.. xder makam??? or susah???
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:20 PM | Show all posts
Reply 377# ea208964


   erm... dorng asalnya siam.. klo yg thai.. rasanyer perkaitan dgn kaum minoriti thai di selatan china.... ader kaum tai di sana.... dan klo x silap.. budaya hampir sama dgn thai ..... ader perayaan songkran lg.. hehehe.... dan klo x silap.. kaum thai di bwa ke kerajaan siam oleh orang2 fancis.. or mak salleh.. hehehhe
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:21 PM | Show all posts
Reply 378# anonymous


    tu yg pelik kan .. makam2 .. klu yg sebelum 1511 mungkin logik yg portugis dah ambil segala jenis batu nesan atau pape structure buat kota ..yg selepas tu kat mana ..?

yupp..ada terbaca .. yg tentukan sultan mana kat johor dan knape anak Sultan satu lagi ke Perak ..aturan Tun fatimah .. so tak logik Tun fatimah hilang kan ... yg hilang or tak diketahui kedudukan makamnya shj ....



nnti klu dah jumpa link psl tun fatimah  letak kat sini ..
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:23 PM | Show all posts
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   erm... dorng asalnya siam.. klo yg thai.. rasanyer perkaitan dgn kaum minor ...
anonymous Post at 5-8-2010 14:20



    aha ..'siam ' dan 'thai ' - dua tamadun  yg berlainan kan ...

makin bnyk tahu makin mengkonpiuskan ..
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:30 PM | Show all posts
Reply 377# ea208964


kalu nk carik titik permulaan... kena la bermula dr zaman Nabi Ibrahim...
dikatakan keturunan Nabi Ibrahim ada yg membawa diri/meneroka hingga ke nusantara....
dan mengasaskan kerajaan2 awal melayu cth langkasuka

lg masak kot....

~peningnya ~
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:32 PM | Show all posts
Reply 378# anonymous


mungkin sengaja dilenyapkan supaya kewujudannya tidak diketahui oleh penjajah....

jaat la penjajah nih...
saje je tau
dengki la tu kan dgn bangsa mim
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:33 PM | Show all posts
aha ...sebelah Keturah kan  ...tak silap dari champa ke...


tapi ni tred melaka ...better titik dari melaka dan kembangkn balik ...
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Post time 5-8-2010 02:34 PM | Show all posts
aku nk sambung speku di CI pulak
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