dinar iraq

cibak_cibak

korang penah dengar x pasal dinar iraq ni? kwn cibak ajak cibak melabur.. tp cibak takut trtipu... so anybody leh comfirm x benda ni sahih ke x?

cibak: klu ade info kongsi2 la...

kabukiman

citer ler sket sales pitch dia mcm mana.

adakah konsep melabur dlm dinar iraq ini adalah kerana:
1. program rahsia pembangunan ekonomi muslim malaysia?
2. program eksklusif pemilikan dinar iraq yg hanya org2 'terpilih' saja dpt membelinya?
3. pelaburan yg akan memberi pulangan lumayan bila amma-rikka keluar dari bumi iraq (value dinar pegged to iraqi oil)?

kalu sales pitch salah satu atau variasi spt di atas sahih kelentong.

cibak_cibak

klu x silap cibak.. kite kena beli matawang dinar ni... ia di dtgkn lam set... satu set brnilai 50,000 dinar. n kite leh beli ngan harga RM650.. kang skang ni iraq lam post-war.. n matawang dia tgh jatuh... mls nak cite pjg..

cuba cek link ni

http://www.rahsiadinar.com/

kabukiman

buruk sangka... tipoooo.
baik sangka... mmg satu peluang keemasan.

satu jer aku buleh pikir: dinar ini tidak sah di luar iraq. selagi exchange control tak remove maknanya  nilai matawang nih hanyalah kertas bungkus goreng pisang. this is the risk on the surface.

the hidden risk includes rahsiadinar nih modal bapa inggit? ejen2 tuh apa jaminan takkan lari? apa jaminan rahsiadinar akan jadi marketmaker utk dinar ini di malaysia? bapa spread dia akan buat?

cibak_cibak

cibak rase x timbol agen akan lari.. kos duit tu kite yg akn pegang... then bile sampai waktu nye... kite p la tukar kat money changer... cuma yg cibak risau... pasal keaslian duit tu n masa depan... kite x leh predict ape yg akn jd pd masa depan, pada matawang tu...

[ Last edited by  cibak_cibak at 12-10-2006 12:43 PM ]

kitt_fisto

I pun dpt gak sms dari kwn i psl dinar iraq ni. Dia sms RM680 utk 41800 dinar, nilai matawang sebelum perang teluk 1 dinar = USD 3.30 dan nilai skrg 1 dinar = USD 0.001. Andaikan naik 10 sen USD atau USD 1, USD 1 = 41800 dinar x 01.00 = USD 41800, USD 41800 x 3.7 = RM154700. Adakah anda hanya ingin duduk diam diri shj sdg org israel dan amerika berlumba membeli dinar iraq. Ambil peluang ini utk masa depan anda. Mata wang akan diberi terus 41800 dinar apabila anda bayar RM680. Lebih kurang mcm tu lah smsnya tp i x balas pun.

Coolguy_KL

Iraqi Dinar scam hits Brunei

After the newspaper ads featured in USA Today and
other major US newspapers, the popular Iraqi Dinar
scam has moved to another country. Just when you
thought it was safe for the US based investors, with
all the warnings recently published by major media
sources, the scammers have found yet another country
ripe for profit.

10,000 Iraqi Dinars selling at B$ 110 was the title of
a recent ad than ran in a Brunei newspaper. And people
are jumping on it like crazy. Rumors are the sellers
have run out of stock in less than one week.

How could this be possible? Because they don't know
better. Ordinary people, people just like you and I
read about this new investment in a newspaper they
trust. The ad is claiming they're sitting on a pot of
gold, and the Iraqi Dinar is about to jump in value
big time. They start dreaming about fast riches. They
swipe out their wallet faster than the blink of an eye
and hand their hard earned money to the scammers.

The truth? The current exchange rate as of today is
approximately 1 USD for 1.63 BND (Brunei Dollars).

This means at the exchange rate set by the Central
Bank of Iraq people could, in theory, get close to
100,000 Iraqi Dinars for the same BND 110. This is
almost TEN times more the amount the scammers are
selling it for. And people are jumping on it like
crazy! Why? Because they don't know better.

When they wake up later on and try to sell the dinars
back they're in for a big surprise. They can't. Nobody
is buying Iraqi Dinars. There's currently no way for
them to recover at most 1/10 from their investment
except if they are willing to travel to Iraq to cash
it in.

But first they have to wait and pray for the dinars to
jump in value at least 10 times for them to merely
recover their money back. By the way it looks now this
sudden jump in value is not going to happen. Not
today, not tomorrow, and neither in a month from now.
It could happen in 3 years. Or 5 years. Or never.

Sad truth is people who were sold in at these rates
were scammed. They were profited for their lack of
knowledge. And the sellers knew exactly what the
exchange rate was. They knew exactly what's the
potential for this type of investment. And the only
potential it has right now is for them, the scammers,
to get rich from selling Iraqi Dinars.

So, why did the people buy in? Because they didn't
knew better. But you do!

Don't fall prey for these scams! You deserve to be
informed.

cibak_cibak

coolguy... klu dorg tukar duit tu skang mmg la x laku kn??... coz duit tu blm di "peg"??... :hmm:



cibak: aiyakkk!!! nak beli ke x nak ni??? ade rumours kate akhir 2007 or awal 2008 ekonomi iraq akan pulih...

nature_boy

Will the Iraqi Dinar Rise? Not Likely
A brief look at the realities of a meteoric currency re-valuation
By David Sotnick

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08 September 2006 (ISX-Data.com)
Many have speculated that the Iraqi dinar (IQD) is set for a meteoric rise in 'value', with claims/rumors of the dinar being pegged 'in the near future' at levels ranging from $0.01 USD per dinar to as much as $1.00 USD per dinar.

First, let us examine these claims for what they must be; a scam, pure fiction or, at best, reasoned speculation.

Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics
Clearly, the vast majority of dinar-related claims appear to be a blatant scam, preying on the misinformed. Dozens of websites abound with information on the supposed previous value of the dinar, at or above $3.00 USD per dinar. On the surface, these claims are true, if one happily ignores the fact that this arbitrary level was picked by Saddam and his cronies and had absolutely no basing in economic fundamentals. Beware any source claiming these numbers as some kind of indicator of future value.

A second prevalent claim is that, much like the Kuwaiti dinar (KWD) during the first Gulf War, the Iraqi dinar is set for an overnight rise in value on a similar scale. Some simple facts however, reveal that these situations share nothing in common other than geography and the players involved. The Kuwaiti dinar had been historically valued at levels at or near those levels seen immediately after the liberation of Kuwait by Coalition forces (and in the 15 years since). The catastrophic, yet brief dip in the KWD's value was purely reflective of the economic uncertainty that the Iraqi invasion caused. The fact that once the Iraqi's were removed from Kuwait the currency bounced back to 'normal' levels should not surprise anyone. The KWD's worth was founded in decades of economic management by the Kuwaiti central bank, which had a track-record of demonstrating that a high exchange rate was sustainable for the Kuwaiti economy.

In discussing the IQD, a parallel is often made when attempting to justify the 'impending' rise in the value of the Iraqi dinar. Often people will cite (selectively of course) the valuations of several neighboring Gulf countries currency exchange rates. Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain and others are touted as the 'natural' exchange rate for the region, given their similarity in both peoples and of course resources. However, this precludes the fact that Iran, Iraq's closest neighbor and clearly, if one is to look at the situation on the ground, most influential, has an exchange rate of over 9,000 Iranian Rial to the USD. If one feels the need to believe the superficial comparisons made in the positive, one also needs to look at those that may reflect negatively on the Iraqi situation.

A final comparison that you may see involves the supposed rise in value of the Afghanistan Afghani. In short, this currency has not experienced any real gains since the liberation from the Taliban. What it did experience was a phenomenon known as 'zero-lopping', in that the government decided to simply remove a number of trailing zeroes from their printed bills out of sheer convenience. Prices, and the Afghani's exchangeable values, immediately reflected these changes. No rise in value was or has been seen to the respective currency holder, or to the Afghan people.

One needs to remember that physical currency is simply a piece of paper with pretty pictures and an arbitrary number printed on it. Real value can only obtained through the trade of this paper, and its relative worth when compared to other currencies, which brings us to Iraq.

Reasoned Speculation, or How I Determined the Value of the IQD
At this point, in this author's opinion, targeting a specific exchange rate for the IQD is nonsensical, unless the person spreading the rumor has the ear of the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) or has a complete understanding of the macro and micro-economic situation on the ground in Iraq. I would venture that nobody has such a complete picture, and that you would be better served to simply throw darts at a board when it comes to determining values.

Predicting the future of the Iraqi dinar is akin to predicting the future price of a given companies shares, without the 1) information needed to do it properly, 2) a language barrier which prevents all but a few from actually understanding what little information IS out there, and 3) a low-level civil war that makes gathering economic indicators and trends nearly impossible.

So what do we have to go on in terms of the true valuation of the dinar? Most obviously, the historical exchange rates of the current Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) regime. These rates have been steadfastly 'pegged' at close to 1500 IQD per USD now for almost three years. If one is to look at the daily currency auctions posted on the CBI's website, we can see that they seem to be managing the currency quite responsibly, and if anything have managed to stave off downward pressure, rather than stop some magical upward swing that many hope for. Through all the political bickering, sectarian violence and oil disruptions, the rate has traded within a very tight range of values.

In the face of an inflation rate hovering around 50%, the bank has done an admirable job of maintaining the current value of the dinar. One should not be surprised that given the on-the-ground realities, inflation and other economic factors, the dinar is probably slightly OVER-valued today. If the CBI was to back off on it's currency interventions, the value, at least in the short-term, would likely drop.

The Re-Pegging Myth
If the CBI were to decide tomorrow to 're-peg' the dinar to some arbitrary value (i.e. intervene to maintain the auction prices at a higher exchange rate value), of, say, 1 dinar = 1 USD, they would be insolvent within a month. Not to mention the obvious implications that these imaginary re-pegged exchange rates would imply. Imagine the average Iraq citizen instantly becoming a USD millionaire, and then using these riches to flee the country and live like royalty elsewhere in the region. Or the range of weapons that the insurgents could then acquire with their billions of dinar/USD. Or the fact that individual currency speculators holding in some cases billions of dinar, now magically worth billions of USD, would have a net worth almost equal to Iraq's entire GDP (estimated to be ~94 billion for 2005). Ridiculous.

One should expect a loosening of the constraints of exchange on the dinar over the coming months/years, and one should expect some movement when this happens. One should not expect to suddenly be worth more than the entire country of Iraq.

Source:http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/10384

nature_boy

Originally posted by cibak_cibak at 11-10-2006 05:14 PM
klu x silap cibak.. kite kena beli matawang dinar ni... ia di dtgkn lam set... satu set brnilai 50,000 dinar. n kite leh beli ngan harga RM650.. kang skang ni iraq lam post-war.. n matawang dia tgh ...

Klu ikut current exchange rate RM 650 = IQD 262,000. Klu dpt 50,000 jerr, sah-sah klentonng.........boleh check latest exchnage rate kat sini - http://coinmill.com/IQD_calculator.html

[ Last edited by  nature_boy at 5-11-2006 11:48 AM ]

shodaime

Originally posted by nature_boy at 5-11-2006 11:47 AM


Klu ikut current exchange rate RM 650 = IQD 262,000. Klu dpt 50,000 jerr, sah-sah klentonng.........boleh check latest exchnage rate kat sini - http://coinmill.com/IQD_calculator.html

maknanya diaorang nak ambik keuntungan atas angin sampai lebih kurang 5 kali ganda

kalau dapat tukar dinar iraq kat bank ke aku percaya la jugak...main dengan orang tengah ni sori ler..skrg ni byk tipu sana tipu sini

shodaime

kat kaunter  exchange rate cam kat KLIA ker, midvaley ker...takde jual ker dinar iraq ni?

main-main promote suruh orang beli dgn dia dalam internet ni aku KURENG Percaya :lebai:

iscol_klang

ramai dah kengkawan aku terlibat dengan benda ni, dah simpan pun....
kebanyakannya kengkawan pompuan yg nak cepat kaya...
aku tak rasa convinced pun dgn promo diorang sebab benda ni terlalu syubhah la...
tambah pulak diorang buat skim piramid kat sini, carik downline kiri kanan dapat RM90 ke camne, lebih kurang camtula..
camne diorang bole sampai buat skim piramid padahal 'untung' tu tak nampak langsung lagi
dijanjikan benda yg bukan2 tapi duitnye tak nampak...
bile aku suruh consult lecturer2 islamic banking ni, semua berat bontot nak tanye, padahal mengaji agama belaka...
diorang kata kalo nak claim balik RM650 balik pun takpe...masalahnye ada ke yg claim balik?
dah tu nak tukar kat mane duit2 ni? bank negara bagi ke?
takde 1 pun penjelasan yg memuaskan...semuanya "orang tu kata, orang ni kata..."

alphawolf

Yang menariknya scam ini ialah ayat ni --> "Adakah anda hanya ingin duduk diam diri shj sdg org israel dan amerika berlumba membeli dinar iraq"

Orang Islam (terutama Melayu), dengar dua perkataan 'ajaib' tu terus melatah dan terus nak melabur.....

Aku tak tau pasal forex sangat tapi aku rasa kalau benda ni betu pun...aku rasa kita jadi macam George Soros aje...

zaleen

i pun ada jgk dgr psl iraq dinar nie... rasa nya dia mcm nie,

kan iraq isytihar currency baru dlm tahun 2004... so harga skrg nie pada harga plg rendah lah 1 IQD = 0.001 USD. Yg IQD41,800 offer dlm internet tu ialah collectors item iaitu notes baru iraq dinar...tp persoalannya safe ke beli kat internet. Yg i takut duit tu betul ke palsu je.

beli IQD nie rasanya macam beli currency biasa je... masa harga murah beli, dah harga naik besok juallah balik. tak naik pun masih blh jual balik gak dgn harga asal sbb nilai dia tak akan jatuh lagi sbb skrg harga terendah. cuma pastikan duit tu bukan duit palsu...

ini dari yg i fahami lah.... kalau salah soriiii

anatolia96

so sape interested nak satu set i ada lebih satu....aritu beli kat mydinar.net if beli 10 set (pukal) boleh dpt diskaun...1 set= rm760 kalau 10 set rm 6500..so kami 9 org beli utk 10 set..ada 1 set lebih...boleh laa sape berminat jual 1 set RM 600 pun ok

Originally posted by anatolia96 at 12-12-2006 10:26 PM
so sape interested nak satu set i ada lebih satu....aritu beli kat mydinar.net if beli 10 set (pukal) boleh dpt diskaun...1 set= rm760 kalau 10 set rm 6500..so kami 9 org beli utk 10 set..ada 1 set ...

hahaha.... bermurah hati sungguh awak. Jgn la jual sekarang.... rugi. Tunggu tahun 2008 nanti bila duit tu naik nilai.... katanya sampai ratus2 Ribu RM untugnya kan... :lol

ada org dah nyesal

Andak

Originally posted by anatolia96 at 12-12-2006 10:26 PM
so sape interested nak satu set i ada lebih satu....aritu beli kat mydinar.net if beli 10 set (pukal) boleh dpt diskaun...1 set= rm760 kalau 10 set rm 6500..so kami 9 org beli utk 10 set..ada 1 set ...

a ah... wat per ko jual... simpan woo... nanti ko gak untung riban2.... kan ko beli utk wat investment... hehe..

anatolia96

heheh bukan laa baik hati sgt...mmg laa bleh simpan dulu..tapi sbb memandangkan sekarang mmg nak pakai duit  pun..repair kete skit...pastu next year bleh lagi the same set...may be set tu naik harga kot next year..tapi kan nak pakai duit sekarang..malas aaa nak wat kuar saving...so i offer jela dulu...anybody interested bleh PM...just offer

*nak gi tukar kat money changer oun x baloi hehe...duit tgh rendah sesangat..tunggu laa !1dinar= 0.10 usd pun baru baloi skit jual...sekarang pun 1 dinar= 0.0006 usd...apa je yg aku bleh repair kete aku ehhe


anybody interested PM k...

Originally posted by anatolia96 at 13-12-2006 10:37 PM
heheh bukan laa baik hati sgt...mmg laa bleh simpan dulu..tapi sbb memandangkan sekarang mmg nak pakai duit  pun..repair kete skit...pastu next year bleh lagi the same set...may be set tu naik harg ...

i rasalah, better you jual kat parent or adik beradik you. Sebab kalau dinar tu still remains dlm family u. Nanti diorang dah kaya raya u juga dapat tumpang senang.

Amacam, ok tak idea i ni?