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Post time 23-3-2007 03:08 PM | Show all posts
Satu lagi bercakap ttg financial freedom. Sebenarnyer, financial freedom ni maksudnyer adalah, keupayaan anda untuk hidup tanpe perlu bekerja keras dengan hanya menggunakan wang yang ada sekrg atau income (passive or active) yg anda dpt yang "terjamin"...

So, kalau anda ada rumah by age 40 ke, 50 yrs old ke, tapi income takde, itu masih belum dikatakan "financial freedom" , melainkan anda jual rumah tersebut, dan jadi jutawan, pastu guna income dari hasil jualan tersebut...

So, untuk bincang ttg topik ni, kita perlu paham dulu apa maksud financial freedom ;)

Dan financial freedom utk setiap org berbeza2...ada yg memerlukan RM3,000 passive income utk mencapainya, ada yg inginkan RM10,000, ada yg inginkan RM50,000 sebulan....ikut jenis org....

Just my opinion aja la.....
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Post time 23-3-2007 03:13 PM | Show all posts
Mari saya bercerita ttg my aim pulak...

Bagi saya, saya ingin capai RM500,000 to Rm1,000,000 by age of 30 yrs old. I know it sounds impossible, tapi kalau kita target high, we will achieve high. Target low, achieve low. That is my prinsip la...

Kalau anda target financial freedom by age of 45, maybe 'tergelincir" sedikit kat 50 or 55 yrs old...and by that time, kita pon dah tua, dan tak berapa larat nak "rasa nikmat" duit tu...

So, kalau anda target 30yrs old, dgn ketabahan, usaha, doa dan tawakal, insyaAllah boleh achieve at 30 or 35 , etc...
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Post time 23-3-2007 03:22 PM | Show all posts
Bagaimana cara2 nak capai FINANCIAL FREEDOM??? Byk cara, antaranya:

1) Kurangkan enjoy masa muda ni
2) "Berkira" dlm segala hal, tapi berpatutan, contohnya, kalau boleh kita menawar barang, tawarlah...
3) Usahlah beli brg branded sgt, especially BAJU, KASUT, SELUAR, itu semua takde guna sgt
4) Usahlah beli kreta mahal2, cukuplah sekadar boleh bawa kita ke tempat dituju
5) USAHLAH MEROKOK, sbb MEROKOK ni saya dgr bole habis beratus2 sebulan...wallahu'alam
6) Berkongsi kereta, haha, cerita lama
7) Kurangkan makan luar, masak sendiri kat rumah, pergi beli groceries, masak sendiri, byk jimat
8) kalau makan luar pulak,  jgn asek makan tempat yg "standard" dan "mahal" yg ada "org putih", yg ada "FREE INTERNET CONNECTION, etc...
9) Duit gaji yg dpt, jgn biarkan "tersadai" kat maybank, bcb, etc. Cepat2 masukkan  ke dlm ASB, etc sejurus lepas dpt, "hanya tingalkan amount yg perlu shj"
10) JANGAN SEWA RUMAH!!!! (sure ramai tak setuju ni...hehe, ada sbb2nya)
11) Dan sebgainya, kalau citer tak habis ni...

Wslm

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Post time 23-3-2007 05:22 PM | Show all posts
waaa .. baguslah kawan kawan semua ...
terutama abgzan ... banyak info.
terima kasih yek !
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Post time 23-3-2007 06:05 PM | Show all posts
Your pleasure is mine
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Post time 23-3-2007 07:19 PM | Show all posts
abgzan boleh citer tak pasal jgn sewa umah tu..menarik gak..dan dr salehudin camner yer klo kita nak beli rumah lelong..
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Post time 23-3-2007 07:31 PM | Show all posts

Reply #8 drsalehuddin's post

good idea...
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Post time 23-3-2007 07:35 PM | Show all posts
nak simpan dulu.. or nak bayar hutang... or dua2 sekali?

No matter how heavily u're in debt, u should keep saving.
as i mentioned in other threads, minimum saving is 10%. that's what has been recommended by many financial planners. If u can save higher, even better. but keep a habit of paying yourself first (ie keeping 10% of ur salary for as saving).
if ur salary 1000, so u should save 100. if it is 20k, so minimun saving is 2000 (that means u can do whatever u want with the remaining 18k).
Even if u're in the brink of bancruptcy, u should still continue to save. reasonnya? simple. Kalau u're declared bankrupt, ur saving wont be taken away from you. becoz u still need to live and eat and bla bla bla.
but imagine kalau u're heavily in debt, then u decide nak bayar ur hutang and tak simpan langsung. but because ur hutang tu dah banyak sangat (plus high sky interest), u wont be able to catch up and at the end, u're declared bankrupt. worse, u dont have any saving.. so how are u going to live for the next few days/ months/ year? bankrupt, and NO MONEY!

so my advice.. keep on saving, and at the same time, make a plan to eliminate ur debt(s).
if u're interested how to make a plan to eliminate debt, just ask, i'll post later
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Post time 23-3-2007 07:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by abgzan at 23-3-2007 03:22 PM
Bagaimana cara2 nak capai FINANCIAL FREEDOM??? Byk cara, antaranya:

1) Kurangkan enjoy masa muda ni
2) "Berkira" dlm segala hal, tapi berpatutan, contohnya, kalau boleh kita menawar ...



catz setuju tu...

catz ada ternampak buku azizi ali..tajuk nya lebih kurang " bersara sebagai jutawan" gitu le kot.
so kira dia tunjuk jln how nak ada financial freedom semasa menuju persaraan.tapi cat lom beli buku tu...
nanti cat nak beli lah..boleh kita share idea kat sini..
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Post time 23-3-2007 07:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by drsalehuddin at 23-3-2007 07:35 PM
nak simpan dulu.. or nak bayar hutang... or dua2 sekali?

No matter how heavily u're in debt, u should keep saving.
as i mentioned in other threads, minimum saving is 10%. that's what has been ...




interesting..amai yg ada problem mcm ni...saya dan kwn2 juga..berazam utk menyimpan...boleh le simpan..tapi at the same time ada hutang yg nak diselesaikan...
maybe boleh share idea..
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Post time 23-3-2007 07:46 PM | Show all posts
Sebenarnyer, ada "segelintir" insan yg salah tanggapan. Tapi saya harap bukan kita di sinilah. Salah tanggapan tu adalah, bila org sebut 10% saving, maka, mereka pon tetapkan lah 10% saving, dan yg selebihnya utk enjoy, SALAHH!!! 10% saving tu adalah minimum. Kalau boleh, biarlah 100% saving, kalau boleh...possible tak?? possible, kalau anda tinggal dgn IBU dan BAPA...anda boleh save 100%...

So, the point is, DON't LIMIT yourself to ONLY 10% !!!

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Post time 23-3-2007 10:13 PM | Show all posts
bagus kalau muda2 dah menabung..
saya cuma realised pasal perancangan kewangan setelah 5 tahun kerja..
sayang sangat rase sebab tak start dari awal n
buku azizi ali yg menyedarkan saya berkenaan dgn topik ini.
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Post time 24-3-2007 01:51 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by drsalehuddin at 23-3-2007 07:35 PM
nak simpan dulu.. or nak bayar hutang... or dua2 sekali?

No matter how heavily u're in debt, u should keep saving.
as i mentioned in other threads, minimum saving is 10%. that's what has been ...

menarik ni dr salehudin..so bagaimana jalan yg paling terbaik nak mengurus hutang ni..
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Post time 24-3-2007 03:02 PM | Show all posts
terima kasih semua ... banyak jawapan bernas ni.

satu lagi kan ... bj nak mintak pendapat daripada soalan pertama bj tadi...
untuk mencapai kebebasan kewangan ... hutang mana satu yang perlu diuruskan dahulu ?
ni hutang bj yg ada buat masa ni. dan bj sedang menutup semua akaun yg. ada ni ...
tahun 2006 , bj dah menutup akaun kad kredit 4 kad = RM28K ... beserta perkara lain.

insyallah bj bercadang nak menutup kesemua hutang di bawah ni... kalau tak pun yg paling besar makan riba' laaaa ...

ni pula perkara yang tinggal untuk tahun 2007 ...

1. hutang pelajaran tinggal RM 30K
2. hutang kereta tinggal RM 30K (tinggal 2 tahun = sebulan RM1100)
3. hutang pinjaman rumah dlm pembinaan RM 100K (30 tahun =skg ni sebulan RM650)

soalan :
agak agak kawan kawan pakar kewangan sekalian laa ek ... mana satu yg bj perlu tutup akaun dahulu ? ...

1. adakah akaun rumah yg belum siap ... risiko mungkin tak siap mcm. ada ... jadi, mungkin nak bayar sikit shj.
2. adakah bayar akaun kereta sekali gus (mungkin dpt. tolak diskaun sebab habiskan lebih awal = full settlement)
3. akaun pinjaman pendidikan PTPTN ada riba' 3% setahun. akan meningkat tiap tahun.

terima kasih yea kawan kawan semua ...   

[ Last edited by  budakjawa at 24-3-2007 07:51 AM ]
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Post time 24-3-2007 03:11 PM | Show all posts
insyallah ... umur bj 31 tahun ni, bj nak mencapai kebebasan kewangan dan tidak terikat dgn mana mana bank lagi ...
ni kesilapan bj yg bj buat sejak habis sekolah pd umur 26 tahun = 2002  
baru tahun lepas = 2006 , bj betulkan kesilapan tu ....
harap kawan kawan jgn buat kesilapan yg sama la kan ...

oh ya .... betul kata abg zan, mat403 dan dr salehuddin, kita perlu buat simpanan ... simpanan dan simpanan ... skg ni bj baru saja buat sikit sikit dlm ASB ...
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Post time 24-3-2007 05:49 PM | Show all posts

hutang

I try jawab pasai hutang ni. soalan camna nak buat plan utk settle loan n as reply for #34 from BJ.

(as i mention before, MINIMUM saving should be 10%, yes abgzan.. the rest not for enjoy, but to do other important things eg bills, loans, isi perut..
if u can save more, please do so! but from my experience, not many cultivate the habit of saving, let alone saving 10% of their salary..
and even 100% saving is not possible, even if u stay with parents. reason? kalau u travel ke tpt keje.. duit minyak sapa tanggung? parents gak ker? takde pemberian utk parents gak ke?.. dah pernah tinggal ngan parent setahun.. boleh simpan banyak, tapi habis buat belanja kawin... aduss..)

OK, back to plan to settle loan.

this is what I gather from Robert Kiyosaki books, not exactly, but more of guideline to suite us.. aku tak ingat sangat exact plannyer.. ada 2 plan:

Plan A

1. make a list of ur loans

2. check which one has the highest interest. usually those from credit cards (about 18% per annum). But if u terlibat dengan 'ahlongs', maybe those loans are the highest..

3. If u have more than 1 credit card loan, determine which one has the lowest interest, eg credit card from bank A. transfer other credit cards loan to this one (beware of other cost for this transaction. if possible, opt for those with zero balance transfer and lower interest thereafter). some banks do offer lower interest upon balance transfer, and even give freebies (eg plasma tv 34 inch!!).

4. start paying more than just 5% minimum to this one. if u do ur monthly budget and pactice delayed gratification, u may be able to save extra ringgit. use this extra ringgit towards zeroing ur credit card loan.

5. STOP taking new loan/ credit card. U should learn ur lesson of how nasty the credit card is already. If u dont, dont read my post anymore. u can stop here and read something else.

Plan B
1. If u have multiple credit cards, and dont want to take the hassle of balance transfer (not much hassle pun..), or the cards are charging same interest rates, or u think that balance transfer is going to cost u more, than take another approach (this one!)

2. focus on one credit card at one time. eg, u have credit card from bank X, Y, Z. so u decide to settle X first.

3. pay minimum amount for credit card Y and Z (5%)

4. for credit card X, pay more than just minimum amount as i've mentioned in plan A  (step 4).

5. when u have settled all loan from credit card X, start on next card.

NB: these plans are not going to eliminate ur debt in few months, but maybe in few years (well.. u're the who jump into these troubles in the first place). so be patient! it's going to be slow, but sure.

if u do what i've mentioned earlier, ie saving and settling loan, in few years, u'll eliminated ur debt AND have money in your account.

fuh.. panjangnya..
hopefully my writing can benefit some. (harap2 masuk dalam amalan amal jariah)

utk soalan BJ, defer to next session bleh? nak kene logout.
a'kum
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Post time 24-3-2007 11:53 PM | Show all posts
thanks dr.
bj setuju benar apa yg dr. tulis tu .
alhamdulillah ... dlm masa 10 bulan sepanjang tahun 2006, bj dah tutup semua akaun kad kredit tu.

akaun kereta :
skg tinggal akaun kereta yg makan paling besar tiap tiap bulan = RM1100 ... yg ni bj layan mcm biasa.
cuma kalau lambat bayar, dia berganda jadi RM2200 ... buat masa ni alhamdulillah. ok
ikut perjanjian habis november 2009
bj rasa nak habiskan bayar bulan 12 tahun 2007 ni.
terus ambil geran. bj ada rujuk, kalau kita boleh selesaikan bayar awal,
boleh dpt diskaun tolak faedah tahun yg tinggal.
contohnya ... skg tinggal 2 tahun nak abiskan bayar kereta,
setahun riba' yg dimakan = RM4500 ... 2 tahun = RM 9000 ...
jadi .. mungkin bj dapat bayar kurang dpd RM 30K , iaitu sekitar RM21K sahaja
kalau bayar sekali gus. banyak boleh jimat ni.
januari tahun 2008, dah ada simpanan semula RM1100 sebulan.

akaun rumah :
tang ni buat bj musykil sikit ni
rumah tu dlm pembinaan.
jumlah pinjaman RM100K ... 30 tahun
skg ni .. mcm terbengkalai
bayaran bulan faedah berperingkat ... max = RM650
skg ni bj bayar RM100 je ... pasal rumah tu bermasalah (mcm rugi je)
mula beli 2004 ... takat hari ni, dah bayar kurang lebih RM6000
pilihan  : rasanya nak batalkan perjanjian jual beli tu. rugi pelaburan awal tu. hangus la
lepas tu bj rasa nak beli rumah lain yg dah siap. sewakan .. jadi tak ada risiko 30 tahun laa
kawan kawan semua, ada cadangan tak ? fening ni ...

pinjaman PTPTN, JPA, KPM
KPM tinggal RM1400 ... insyallah bulan depan habis bayar
JPA tinggal RM5000 ... 4 bulan lagi habis
PTPTN jumlah semua RM25000 ... tahun ni bayar RM12K
jadinya : bj rancang tahun depan 2008 tinggal pinjaman PTPTN = RM13K

beban hutang utk 2008 = 12 bulan
1. Pinjaman rumah yg terbengkalai = RM650 sebulan
2. pinjaman PTPTN = RM1100 sebulan (bulan disember 2008 insyallah habis)

itu saja perancangan jangka pendek bj  ...
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Post time 25-3-2007 12:18 AM | Show all posts
yg lain lain mcm. simpanan, mak abah, adik sekolah dll... berjalan mcm biasa.
bj buat kesilapan ni pd 2002 - 2005 ... = 3 tahun
alhamdulillah sempat tersedar ... 2006 , 2007 dan 2008 insyallah bj cuba mencapai kebebasan kewangan.
tu yg tengah kerja keras ni ... tak nak ulang lagi ... ngeriiiiiiii ...
kalau pendek umur, kena tanggung hutang, riba' bagai ...

kawan kawan semua tolong beri pandangan / pendapat.
terima kasih yea ...  
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 Author| Post time 25-3-2007 02:07 PM | Show all posts
wuish! abgzan hebatnya... umur 30 dah nak capai financial freedom.. kalau gitu aku tinggal 2 tahun jerk lagi, mana ler nak cekau lagi 400K?

kalau ikutkan hati memang ler abgzan, kalau boleh memang nak financial freedom tapikan... mana aku nak cekau duit tu hah? praktikalnya kalau nak harap savings daripada kerja makan gaji macam aku yang gaji pun takder la banyak mana.. memang yang sehabis baik financial freedom pun lagi 10-20 tahun ler..   hatta aku simpan 100% gaji aku, makan takat nasi dengan ikan kering jerk pun takleh jugak nak meet umur 30 tahun tuh.

So abgzan dan kengkawan yang lain, kongsi ler tips macamana nak ngumpul duit banyak2 tuh? kiranya tips berjimat cermat yang abgzan bagi tu suma aku ikut dah..
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 Author| Post time 25-3-2007 02:14 PM | Show all posts
kira orait ler tuh budakjawa, paling koman ko tersedar jugak... aku tengok ramai lagi dalam donia nih yang langsung tak sedar-sedar.. hanyut jerk dengan gaya hidup gali lubang tutup lubang tuh.. kesian pun ada dengan diorang, nasihat pun kadang-kadang tak makan.. pasal bukan senang nak ubah tabiat berbelanja orang lain nih.. dia kena datang daripada hati dan kesedaran sendiri, lagi senang la nak berubah...

aku kira dah sedar lama gak, since awal kerja.. dalam setahun dua je ar aku kemaruk berbelanja dan kemudiannya sedar diri dah.. tapi aku ada terbuat cara salah jugak la setelah sedar diri tuh.. diantaranya aku masuk asbloan instead of simpan sendiri, terpengaruh dengan 12dailypro ler, MLM la.. konon nak cepat kaya ler tuh! tapi akhirnya my hard earn money jugaklah yang entah ke mana...
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