Kelas Bahasa Jepun (Nihongo)

sh|nobu · Post time 22-9-2007 12:04 PM

a'ah la purple, weekend ble la masuk...jangan lari ye sensei...!! hehee...
we need u here!

waa best nye dpt keje kat japan...aku ni bila la lagi nak migrate ke tokyo nih...hihihih...
kalau boleh aku nak kodomo gi chuugakkou japan....hahahaa...best la skolah sana..
kat mesia ni cam hampeh je aku tengok...

gomen ne!

purplehyppo · Post time 22-9-2007 12:38 PM

yup..die provide human

ermmm..harap2 laa byk mase lg nk dok jengok2 kat cni

chinamini(btw) lin-san..mn lesson seterusnye??

sh|nobu · Post time 22-9-2007 01:11 PM

chinamini = by the way ek?

bagus bagus...ada word baru...
purple-san apa kata pirple-san bubuh la vocab2 kat sini...ble gak blajar words baru...
vocab polite and vocab in normal conversation. sebab salu konfius kalau polite lain sangat kalau normal conversation pun jadik lain...

onegai shimasu...

purplehyppo · Post time 22-9-2007 03:14 PM

chinamini tuh informal
kalo formal die..tokoro de

ermmm..camni la..shinobu-san try jek tulih dlm nihongo..
n then sy reply dlm nihongo jugak..
kalo ade silap sy btolkan..
okeyh??

benkyou(study) yori(than) ouyou(apply) desho(should be?)

lin_okinawa · Post time 22-9-2007 05:27 PM

lesson seterusnye yg sepatotnye aku tepek mlm semlm tu mgkn aku akn tepek mlm ni
aku cm bz sket sbb sebok ngan repot utk internship....pastu plak aku slalu smpi umah kul 11 gtu...balek aje dh letih....tu yg kene tggu weekend baru bleh...sorii

mlm ni aku akan cube sedaye upaye utk letak notes psl joshi lg

lin_okinawa · Post time 22-9-2007 05:29 PM

kalo provide haken tu...maksudnye ko yg haken ke atau ko cume berkhidmat dlm haken gaisha tu je??hehehehe byk sggh soklan...

purplehyppo · Post time 22-9-2007 09:49 PM

betsu ni xpe pon..tenaga pengajar bz..nk bwat camne

purplehyppo · Post time 22-9-2007 09:51 PM

provide haken tue camne??
xphm soklan

lin_okinawa · Post time 22-9-2007 10:28 PM

cene yeh nk ckp...mmm cm cite haken no hinkaku la sng nk describe wakakaka

sh|nobu · Post time 22-9-2007 11:19 PM

hihih ade lak cam contoh citer!

purple-san bleh panggil saya shin je...

em nak tanya, kalau formal question selalunya ada desu ka kat blakang kan, tapi kalau daily conversation lak caner,
cam contoh ayat ni:

doko e ikimasuka --> doko e iku? camtu ke?
nani ga ichiban suki desu ka. --> daily conversation caner?
kinou ame de$hita ka. --> ? daily conversation caner?
patii wa amari omoshirokunakatta desu. --> daily conversation pun kene sebut panjang camtu gak ke?

shin baru2 jugak memahami bende cenggini:

(formal) - (informal)
ikimasu - iku
tabemasu - taberu
arimasu - aru
imasu - iru (so cam soklan cenggini- doko de iru no - kamu berada di mana?) betul tak?

kalau salah minta diperbetulkan, onegai shimasu.

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lin_okinawa · Post time 22-9-2007 11:46 PM

Indirect Object Marker

dlm BI die bermaksud = to, in, at, by

an indirect object usually precedes a direct object....meaning, indirect objek die terletak dkt depan direct objek...

contohnye, "Yoku tomodachi ni tegami wo kakimasu" (I often write letters to my frens : よく ともだち に てがみ を かきます )...dlm ayat tu, kite tau yg tomodachi is indirect objek, kakimasu adalah verb dan tegami is the direct objek.....

contoh kedue, "Kare wa watashi ni hon wo kurema$hita" (He gave me a book : かれ は わたし に ほん を くれました ).....

some japanese verbs such as "au (to meet)" and "kiku (to ask)" take an indirect object, though their English counterparts do not....spt yg kite tau, "au" ngan "kiku" adalah action....atau dgn kate lainnye ialah verb....dlm english, verb ni tkleh jd indirect objek...tp dlm nihongo, die bleh jd indirect objek...

contohnye, "Eki de tomodachi ni atta" (I met my fren at the station : えき で ともだち に あった )...."atta" tu come from the word "au"....kalo dlm masu form, akan jd "aimasu"....

Location of Existance

yg ni cam yg aku dh terangkn dlm nota sblm ni...."ni" is typically used with verbs such as "iru" (to exist)...."aru" (to exist) and "sumu" (to live).....it translates into "at" or "in"......kalo ade verb "iru" , "imasu", "aru", "arimasu", kene gune particle "ni" utk menunjukkan mende tu ade...ade dan dimane mende tu ade....melambangkn location la kirenye...

contohnye, "Isu no ue ni neko ga imasu" (There is a cat on the chair : いす の うえ に ねこ が います )....

contoh kedue, "Ryoushin wa Osaka ni sunde imasu" (My parents live in Osaka : りょうしん は おおさか に すんで います ).....

lin_okinawa · Post time 23-9-2007 12:10 AM

Direct Contact

"Ni" is used when a motion or action is directed at or onto an object or place....kirenye digunekn bile action yg dimaksudkn tu ditujukan pd tmpt atau sesuatu objek....

contohnye, "Koko ni namae wo kaite kudasai" (Please write ur name here : ここ に なまえ を かいて ください )....kaite adalah action...action tu ditujukan pd "koko" maksudnye sini atau here...

contoh kedue, "Kooto o hangaa ni kaketa" (I hung a coat on the hanger : コート を ハンガー に かけた ).....kaketa adalah action, yg bermaksud (to hang)...ditujukan pd objek hanger.....sbb tu blakang hanger tu ade "ni"...

Direction

"Ni" can be translated as "to" when indicating a destination....

contohnye, "Rainen nihon ni ikimasu: (I'm going to Japan next year : らいねん にほん に いきます )...dlm contoh ni, destinasi die adalah Jepun...

contoh kedue, "Kinou ginkou ni ikima$hita" (I went to the bank yesterday : きのう ぎんこう に いきました ).....dlm contoh ni plak, destinasi die adalah ginkou (bank)....

Purpose

contohnye, "Eiga o mi ni itta" (I went to see a movie : えいが を み に いった )....itta tu berasal dr perkataan iku...ikimasu dlm masu form present tense...past tense nye ialah ikima$hita...dipendekkan atau informal ialah itta...

contoh kedue, "Hirugohan o tabe ni uchi ni kaetta" (I went home to eat lunch : ひるごはん を たべ に うち に かえった ).....kalo tgk ayat kedue ni, kite bleh nmpk ade 2 particles "ni"...kalo tkde translation, agak2 tau tk mane satu "ni" yg dimaksudkn???

wpon "ni" ade 2....tp satu menunjukkan direction dan satu lg menunjukkan purpose....direction adalah "uchi ni kaetta" (ke rumah)....purpose balek ke rumah adalah "tabe ni" (to eat)...so jgn konpius

lin_okinawa · Post time 23-9-2007 12:30 AM

Specific Time

"Ni" is used with various time expressions (year, month, day, and clock time) to indicate a specific point in time, and translates into "at"...."on"....or "in".....tp, the expressions of relative time macam tomorrow, today, tk menggunekn particle "ni"... (jgn tanye aku kenape

)

contohnye, "Hachiji ni ie o demasu" (I leave home at eight o'clock : はちじ に いえ を でます )....

contoh kedue, "Gogatsu mikka ni umarema#a" (I was born on May 3rd : ごがつ みっか に うまれました )

Source

"Ni" indicates an agent or a source in passive or causative verbs...it translates into "by" or "from"...

contohnye, "Haha ni shikarareta" (I was scolded by my mother : はは に しかられた )....shikarareta ni come from the word shikarareru (to be scolded)....maknenye kene marah la kirenye.....kalo marah, root word die adalah "shikaru" (to scold)

contoh kedue, "Tomu ni eigo o oshietemoratta" (I was taught English by Tom : トム に えいご を おしえてもらった )

Notion of Per

"Ni" is used with frequency expressions such as per hour, per day, per person, etc...

contohnye, "Ichijikan ni juu-doru haratte kuremasu" (They pay us ten dollars per hour : いちじかん に じゅう ドル はらってくれます )

contoh kedue, "Isshukan ni sanjuu-jikan hatarakimasu" (I work 30 hours per week : いっしゅうかん に さんじゅうじかん は たらきます )

tu je aku bleh tepek mlm ni....aku dh ngantuk gilerr punye ngantuk ni.....kalo ade yg tk phm, tanye je...nnt aku atau purple akan cube jwb

purplehyppo · Post time 23-9-2007 12:33 AM

Originally posted by lin_okinawa at 22-9-2007 10:28 PM
cene yeh nk ckp...mmm cm cite haken no hinkaku la sng nk describe wakakaka

hinkaku tu ape?hinkyaku ker??
ermmm..slps bc berulang kali soklan tue..
phm sket kot..
yer..sy dihaken kan..so this oct stat masok kaisya(comp) laen..
sy dijual-beli kannn

purplehyppo · Post time 23-9-2007 12:38 AM

okeyh..
korekara(stat dr skang..) sy panggil shin

doko e ikimasuka --> doko e iku? camtu ke?btol camneh..nk letak 'no' kat ujung pon bleyh..
nani ga ichiban suki desu ka. --> daily conversation caner?nani ga ichiban suki(nano)?
kinou ame de$hita ka. --> ? daily conversation caner?kinou ame datta(no)?
patii wa amari omoshirokunakatta desu. --> daily conversation pun kene sebut panjang camtu gak ke?ye..kene sebut pepjg..desu kat ujung bleyh buang..patii-->pa-ti

(formal) - (informal)
ikimasu - iku
tabemasu - taberu
arimasu - aru
imasu - iru (so cam soklan cenggini- doko de iru no - kamu berada di mana?) betul tak?btol!!nice one!!

tadashi(tetapi?)
no kat blkg tue..ade certain2 kaw kat nihon nih menganggap mcm kurang kelakian sket laa(bg lelaki

)

lin_okinawa · Post time 23-9-2007 05:30 AM

hinkaku tu dignity....tu tajuk crite waktu haru aritu kot...tk igt dh

wowww so ko la haken....beshnye....berpindah randah la keje nye kalo gtu
bape bulan skali baru kene pindah???kwn aku kate, keje kt jpn ni kene extra rajin...
kalo cm bese bese ni, mau kubi tros....btol ke??agaknye tu psl la ko ckp ko akan bz next month kot

sh|nobu · Post time 23-9-2007 10:54 AM

arigatou purple-san!

okeh nanti shin pikir $hitsumon lagi...

purplehyppo · Post time 23-9-2007 01:02 PM

ermmm..
ma..xde la perpindah randah sgt..sbb kaisya sy tue mesra pekerja

awal2 lg die suro pilih nk ddk mn n then dorang carikkan keje kat area2 dkt2 ngn umh kite jek..yokatta kedo..
but baai sy neh..sy kene pindah gak..tp dkt jeklaaa

n then..haken-gaisya sy neh(byk jenis haken-gaisya)..die xbyk kuar-masok keje..baper bln skali tuka keje toka..dorang lg galakkan keje lame utk pengalaman..
policy die berbeza sket ngn haken-gaisya bese