Harga saham FELDA (FGV) meletup. Sudah naik 19%.

R2D2

Memetik kata2 Tan Sri Ramli Ngah Talib, bekas MB Perak; kenapa diketika Johor, Pahang, Tgnu dan nege ...
harmerz01 Post at 29-6-2012 12:14

semua amanah saham negeri lingkup . kerajaan negeri byk rugi teruk!

razzmat

takpa. Najib jumpa peneroka FELDA pada 7 Julai. Jadi mungkin akan naik sampai RM10 pada 7 J ...
gogo2 Post at 29-6-2012 11:20

    nak menipu pun agak2 le 7 julai sabtu BURSA tutup .nak menipu pokcik pelda aje keje nye

baghal_bortuqal

nak menipu pun agak2 le 7 julai sabtu BURSA tutup .nak menipu pokcik pelda aje keje nye
razzmat Post at 29-6-2012 15:07

   

gogo2

nak menipu pun agak2 le 7 julai sabtu BURSA tutup .nak menipu pokcik pelda aje keje nye
razzmat Post at 29-6-2012 15:07

Betul. Najib mmg nak kelentong poksik pelda pada 7 Julai ngan harga saham FGV yg tutup pada 6 Julai ngan harga RM10
   ''Saya akan terangkan pada hari peneroka nanti. Hari ini saya simpan sikit. Saya tunggu pada Hari Peneroka pada 7 Julai nanti, apakah jasa, aset dan program yang dijalankan Felda selama ini," katanya.

sayawifenikmie

aku delete, takut ade unsur riak....
shahx Post at 29-6-2012 14:30

...........itulah sebaiknya .............. pernah main saham ... dan pernah rugi puluhan ribu di tahun 1997-98 .... tobatttt takmo main saham dah ...masin saham tanpa ilmu .....

sayawifenikmie

Memetik kata2 Tan Sri Ramli Ngah Talib, bekas MB Perak; kenapa diketika Johor, Pahang, Tgnu dan nege ...
harmerz01 Post at 29-6-2012 12:14

amanah saham tu sama ke kaedahnya dengan FELDA yang di senaraikan di bursa saham?

Muntz

amanah saham tu sama ke kaedahnya dengan FELDA yang di senaraikan di bursa saham?
sayawifenikmie Post at 29-6-2012 16:01

    Amanah Saham nie sesuai utk org yg tak rajin atau takder ilmu nak study profil syarikat, prestasi saham dsb. So dilantiklah satu 'agent' mcm ASB, Public Mutual etc, utk melaburkan duit mereka dalam syarikat2 terpilih. Harga tiap hari berubah2 lah. Cukup setahun ada dividen.

sayawifenikmie

Amanah Saham nie sesuai utk org yg tak rajin atau takder ilmu nak study profil syarikat, p ...
Muntz Post at 29-6-2012 21:08

amanah saham .. pelsbran yang paling rendah risiko.. pulangan pun rendah (kebanyakan kes)

betul tak?

faraway1

wah kaya me

peachRose

hzln

A fine line between investing and gambling

Dear QD,
As a professional in the investing field, I celebrate the triumph of fundamental analysis over speculation. If FGV deserves a lofty valuation, then its a good deal. If its crap, then it should be avoided like the plague.

I did not simply say FGV is good or bad without doing a massive amount of research. I went through the listing document and tried to estimate the value in FGV.

Now, consider this proposition.

I can turn it around and put the story like this.

You are celebrating gaining windfall profits from the investments of our local funds and state investment funds whose involvement in FGV cannot be considered to have been made on a willing buyer willing seller basis.

As I said, if FGV's lofty valuations were supported by the fundamentals, then its a good deal for the EPF members. But right now, EPF is selling out of positions in Sime Darby and IOI in order to assume a position in FGV. Tell me, who in the right mind would this when FGV lists solely on the basis of a proforma set of financials and when its Q1 results had dropped massively from the targets set by analysts.

Will you make whole the PNBs, the Lembaga Tabung Hajis, the makcik pakcik Felda should FGV tumbles after investors realize that its value is certainly no where near its current trading price?

If you agree to make whole any losses that could be realized by these funds on account of any losses in FGV, then it is fair for you to criticize my observations. If not, then you are cheering on speculative activities and not genuine investment activities.

In other words, you are supporting gambling.

hzln

that is for the retail investor cum speculator..
tapi genuine investors especially institutional  ...
Al Lebam Post at 28-6-2012 11:31

    abe, tgk pada perseng utk retail investors utk FGV nih, ciput sangat....they can't really move the price lah...minimal effects at best....it's the big boys who really can, who says institutional investors don't speculate? hedge funds tu lah BAPAK segala spekulator

naga_mas

Adik kakak sekalian,

Tolong lah faham kan aku apa company yang bawah FGVH nie?  Apa industri dia?

Syarikiat Felda Plantation, Felda Trading , Minyak Cap Felda tu bawah sapa sebenarnya??  Bawah Felda Holding atau bawah FGV?

Ada bezakan Felda Holding dengan FGV nie?

Al Lebam

abe, tgk pada perseng utk retail investors utk FGV nih, ciput sangat....they can't really  ...
hzln Post at 30-6-2012 10:09

yong.. hedge fund.. they dabble in currency market .. not equity market..
that is why it is called hedging...
as we know hendging is a mechanism to minimise the payment riskuncertainty due currency fluctuation... especially to the buyer /importer.
but equity market is a different ball game and played by different players.
unlike the currency market... equity market are regulated industry. There are supervisory body to regulate the market. Like in malaysia we have the Security Commission (SC)
but in currency market it is a free for all... short sell is the order of the day...
there are 2 types of players in the equity market.. the retails investors and institutional investors. Both become shareholders for a different reason. The retail is driven largely by the instinct to make quick money that there is to make. But institutional investor participated for  varying reasons. Of course at the end of the day is to make a profit. But it could be also to divest form their core business, widening income earning source. It could also be driven by the need to have a controlling share on a particular company deemed a good investment. Some buy shares of strong company to improve their own Balance Sheet.
In short insitutional investor dont buy today and sell day after..
No matter what all this has to be done above board.. because the SC will be watching over your shoulder.

versys

Aku harap harga saham terus jatuh merudum.. kalau tak jatuh cemana Idola aku nak jadi PM ???

harmerz01

Reply 31# sayawifenikmie


    Memang ada perbezaan, tapi diuruskan oleh mereka yang berfikiran yang sama ...tu la masalahnya

sayawifenikmie

peachRose Post at 30-6-2012 08:47

alahaiiii ... bukan dapat pree pun ... kena bayor jugak .....  kalau offer kat pakcik makcik peneroka puluhan lot seorangnanti ... bising pulak puak PR mencocok jangan beli takut rugi ... hilang tanah bagai ... dapat sikit unit .. lain pulak irama gendangnya .... pusing kiri salah .. pusing kanan salah ....

sayawifenikmie

Reply  sayawifenikmie


    Memang ada perbezaan, tapi diuruskan oleh mereka yang berfikiran yang sama ...

harmerz01 Post at 1-7-2012 16:48

boleht olong huraikan sikit .... tak pahe...

Decaffeinated

alahaiiii ... bukan dapat pree pun ... kena bayor jugak .....  kalau offer kat pakcik makcik pen ...
sayawifenikmie Post at 1-7-2012 17:20

    apa pun kita buat, akan ada yg sokong, akan ada yg tentang. nasi sepinggan pun ada org tak cukup, ada org tak habis.

sayawifenikmie

apa pun kita buat, akan ada yg sokong, akan ada yg tentang. nasi sepinggan pun ada org tak ...
Decaffeinated Post at 1-7-2012 18:54

sokong dan tentang berbeza dengan mencari dan mencipta kesalahan dan keburukan ................

kasibiman

Mek:

'I am a professional that did thorough analysis by poring over the prospectus so you lot that offers different opinion are no good'


Those are statements of spoilt megalomaniacal narcissist.
Apa dia ingat org lain just amek estimated eps darabkan sector p/e jah to arrive at valuation?

Sore-loser statement reflective of one basic deficiency of that particular person: the valuation accorded by market falls within range of normal distribution. You can be the best analyst with nobel winning pricing model; but if the market doesn't buy it then valuation won't reflect it.

Decaffeinated

sokong dan tentang berbeza dengan mencari dan mencipta kesalahan dan keburukan ............... ...
sayawifenikmie Post at 1-7-2012 18:02

    unfortunately, many decide dulu, find the reasons later. kan?..... nak cari kebaikan ada, keburukan pun ada. pilih lah...

shahx

Saham FGVH : Isa Samad Dapat 180,000 Saham. Peneroka dapat 800 unit sahaja.

Alhamdulillah seperti yang diingini dan dihajati oleh kelompok yang berkepentingan dalam Felda, semalam saham Felda FGVH telah mencatatkan premium sebanyak 84 sen kepada nilai RM5.39 saham Felda FGVH telah didagangkan buat pertama kalinya pada “pasaran terbuka” semalam.

Jikalau dikirakan daripada setiap unitnya, berapa lebihan yang bakal diperolehi dikalangan pemburu-pemburu saham termasuklah peneroka Felda yang terlibat bersama-sama memeriahkan penyenaraian IPO Felda FGVH semalam?



Yang peliknya Tan Sri Isa Samad yang berjaya diangkat menjadi Pengerusi Felda dan merupakan orang penting disebalik penyenaraian saham Felda FGVH di Bursa Malaysia telah pun berjaya mendapat sehingga 180,000 unitsaham Felda FGVH walaupun, walaupun……beliau tidak memiliki satu inci tanah sekalipun.

        Tan Sri Samad – 180,000 unit saham
        Sabri Ahmad – 180,000 unit saham
        Dr Omar Salim – 150,00 unit saham
        Dr. Emir – 150,000 unit saham
        Ini yang dia atas kertas dan sudah diketahui, yang tidak didedahkan lagi bagaimana pula angkanya?

Pulangan Disebalik Penyenaraian Saham Felda FGVH ini:

        Pengerusi Felda: 180,000 unit saham x 0.75= RM135,000.00 . (Orang kuat disenalik penyenaraian felda)

        Ceo Felda: 120,000 unit x 0.75= RM90.000 (Menyokong penuh penyenaraian saham Felda FGVH di Bursa Malaysia)

        Pengurusan Felda: 15,000 unit x 0.75 = RM11,250. Kelompok penting yang mendapatkan tandatangan daripada kalangan peneroka Felda. Borang tidak dibenarkan untuk dibawa pulang ke rumah

        Peneroka Felda: 800 unit saham x 0.75 = RM600.000. Kepada kalangan peneroka Felda, jangan lupa tanggungjawab melunaskan pinjaman hutang bank . Bunga 5.5% + wang proses RM200.00 sahaja. Unit saham Felda FGVH hanya boleh dijual selepas 6 bulan

Hakikatnya, berdasarkan semakan kami terhadap propektus di halaman 31, syarikat luar seperti Louis Dreyfus akan diberi saham 2.5% saham bersamaan (91,204,000 saham) iaitu sama banyak dengan peneroka Felda. Macam mana Menteri Ahmad Maslan kata pembahagian saham Felda FGVH adil kepada peneroka? Syarikat Yahudi yang ditubuhkan pada 1851 itu jikalau merujuk kepada pasaran semalam dan andaikata mereka bertindak menjual saham-saham mereka berapa banyak keuntungan mereka?

    RM68,403,000.( 0.75sen x 91,204,000). Peneroka Felda?>

Pikir

-average fair valuation fgv by brokers dlm RM5.30 ie current px

-sebhgian ipo promoted by cimb eg jcy, uoadev, megb skg below ipo px...(ada yg ckp px supported/stabilise for 1-3mths, after tht its all the way dwn dwn)

-commodity px continue to plunge.


hold or sell? yr choice...

harmerz01

Reply 43# sayawifenikmie


    Masalahnya Isa Samad tu teraju FELDA ....kalu orang lain tak la kisah sangat