OF IMPOSTORS AND FAKE SULTANS OF SULU & SABAH :
1. DATU JAMALUL DALUS KIRAM -- Outsider. Not a member of the Royal blood line of succession.
2. DATU ESMAIL DALUS KIRAM -- . His former name was ISMAIL but he changed it to ESMAIL to mislead the public that he is directly related to Sultan Muhammad Esmail E. Kiram I. He was a candidate in his province of Sulu in the 1992 election as provincial board member but he was rejected by his own constituents as he lost that election.
3. DATU AGHBIMUDDIN DALUS KIRAM -- Jamalul, Esmail and Aghbimuddin are not members of the Royal blood line of succession who are three (3) brothers who also installed themselves sultans of Sulu at the same time. No one in his/her right mind will believe that one family can have three (3) sultans of Sulu and succeed one another while the 3 are still alive at the same time, when no one died or abdicated if they were true royalty and true Sultan of Sulu. These 3 brothers are seen as clowns as they fight each other, with no respect for their own family, that they are treated with derision, disbelief and a laughing stock.
4. RODINOOD JULASPI -- (FABRICATING HIMSELF A KIRAM). Commoner & Outsider. Not of Royal blood and not a member of the Royal blood line of succession. Not a descendant or male heir of Sultan Muhammad Esmail E. Kiram I (Sultan 1947-1973). He is not from Sulu but an Ilocano from the Ilocos region of the Philippines . The grandfather of Rodinood Julaspi and Kudar Julaspi was Hadjirul, a commoner with no royal blood, who worked as a horse handler in a horse stable. There is no truth to the claims of Rodinood and Kudar and his father they are descendants of Sultan Jamalul Kiram II, as the Sultan was unfortunately impotent, and did not have any male or female offspring.
5. KUDAR JULASPI -- (FABRICATING HIMSELF A KIRAM). Commoner & Outsider. Not of Royal blood and not a member of the Royal blood line of succession. Not a descendant or male heir of Sultan Muhammad Esmail E. Kiram I (Sultan 1947-1973). Rodinood and Kudar Julaspi do not belong to the Royal blood line of succession who are brothers who proclaimed themselves sultans at the same time, which is an insult to the intelligence of many as no one in his/ her right mind will believe two (2) brothers can succeed each other while they are both alive. Kudar is not from Sulu but an Ilocano from the Ilocos region of the Philippines . Kudar and Rodinood are seen as 2 clowns in the Sultanate of Sulu & Sabah.
6. MR. MUDARASULAIL @ DATU PAIJAL -- Descent unknown. Outsider & Commoner. Not of Royal blood . He fabricates himself to be a Kiram. Not a descendant or male heir of HM Sultan Muhammad Esmail E. Kiram I (Sultan 1947-1973). The claims of this man are pure fiction and fantasy made up by his warped and distorted mind. His claim as a datu is questionable and without foundation. He lives in Sabah and works in the police in a lowly position. His claims as sultan are deliberate manipulations to further confuse and destabilize the Sultanate of Sulu.
7. IBRAHIM PULALUN -- Pulalun was proclaimed using the money of Stan C. Brandenburg, a tax agent, an American claiming to be the U.S. Ambassador to Sulu and North Borneo/ Sabah, but they had a falling out and Brandenburg instead supported and installed Bahjin afterwards. Scorned Pulalun advertised on Zamboanga City newspapers that he had nothing to do with Brandenburg.
8. DIGNIM PULALUN -- Another unscrupulous usurper and impostor sultan. Commoner & Outsider. Not of Royal blood and not a member of the Royal blood line of succession. He is the son of Ibrahim Pulalun who also installed himself sultan without any lawful rights. So now you have Ibrahim and Dignim Pulalun (father and son) clowning and masquerading without rights to be sultan. These father and son are regarded as clowns in the Sultanate along with the other fake sultans listed hereto.
9. AYDAL ALIUDDIN -- Commoner & Outsider. Not of Royal blood and not a member of the Royal blood line of succession. Arrested and imprisoned in Brunei for impersonating the rank and title of Sultan of Sulu.
10. MUHD. YAHCUB ALIMUDDIN V -- Descent unknown. Outsider. He is an Indonesian.
11. HAJI MUHD. AL SAGOV VAN ELDIK (A DUTCHMAN) -- Adopted son of the father of Kudar and Rodinood Julaspi.
12. DEMETRIA OMAR KIRAM -- (FABRICATING HIMSELF A KIRAM). Commoner & Outsider. Not of Royal blood and not a member of the Royal blood line of succession. A Zamboanga City hotel in the Philippines is looking for him for failing to pay his hotel bills up to now. He is not from Sulu.
13. DATU MUEDZUL-LAIL T. KIRAM -- A member of the Royal blood line but not
acceptable and not proclaimed as Reigning Sultan by the Royal Datus and the Sharifs of the Sultanate of Sulu and Sabah . He is also not acceptable to the major groups of Sulu. As per his own admission Datu Muedzul-Lail accepted from Stan C. Brandenburg monthly payment of P50,000 and a Starex van, plus an additional P10 million for himself and P2 million for his mother-in-law and P3 million for his stepmother, in exchange for Brandenburg becoming Sulu Prime Minister of Datu Muedzul-Lail, but Brandenburg did not give him a cent and did not fulfill his promise to pay and instead proclaimed Bahjin twice. As a result many Sultanate leaders commented "Datu Muedzul-Lail sold his line to the Royal succession so cheaply which made him incapable and unsuitable to be Sultan of Sulu." Due to this unfit and improper conduct of Datu Muedzul-Lail, he eliminated himself to the rank and title of Sultan.
14. JUAN T. DELA CRUZ (FABRICATING HIMSELF AS AMIR KIRAM) -- Commoner & Outsider. Not of Royal blood and not a member of the Royal blood line of succession. Many people are looking for him due to loss of money they gave him as he promised to recover the assets of the late Sultan of Sulu and Sabah in foreign banks but he disappeared. He is not from Sulu.
15. ALAWI MOHAMMAD KARIM alias ALFONSO SAGUN BAUTISTA alias ALAWI JULKARNAIN AZAM KIRAM (FABRICATING HIMSELF A KIRAM) -- Commoner & Outsider. This man is trying to claim the assets of the late Sultan of Sulu and Sabah and now called himself a Kiram.
16. ABDULLAH AZAM ATALAD -- Commoner & Outsider. Not of Royal blood and not a member of the Royal blood line of succession. This man tried to represent himself as the Sultan of Sulu in the U.S. Congress but no one believed him and took him seriously. He lives in Mindoro . He is not from Sulu.
17. and lost but not the least but the most scandalous is Mohammad Fuoad Abdullah Kiram who is disowned by the very people of sulu who claims to be Sultan Foad., One who gets non-Tausugs and non-sulu peoples to assist him because no honorable Tausug wishes to assist him, he claims the Sabah money for himself and has forgotten the peoples of Sulu. A very irresponsible person who does nothing except appoint royal titles to Non tausugs while ignoring the people of Sulu and North Borneo.
batmana posted on 4-3-2013 08:21 AM
dah terang2 najib lembab, tak arahkn askar terus, igtla balik tahun 1985..
kerajaan nk tangkap ib ...
suka2 ckp org bodoh...
walhal sendiri x cukup ilmu... buta undang2 plak tu... bodoh sombong punya manusia!!!
nk pakai undang2 ko yg emo tu, lingkup la negara ni. nasib baik la ko x ditakdirkan jadik pemimpin...
len kali kalo mata kail panjang sejengkal, jgn lautan hendak diduga.
duduk dendiam lebih elok daripada berkokok sana sini, tp bontot berselupat tahik!
aku pun da x tau nak cakap ape......setahu aku kovensyen geneva 1949 tu dibuat utk tangani masalah layanan thdp tahanan perang....& kalau sume negara yg sign ikut sume protokol tu, tentu masalah spt keganasan israel & serangan us kat afghanistan & bunuh osama kat dlm negara pakistan/bunuh puak taliban kat negara asing x kan terjadi....
2013.03.04 08:30, yusof said: Siapa kata bila guna tentera kita akui sesorang? Ini kenyataan yang bodoh. Tentera guna untuk jaga kedaulatan negara dari diceroboh. Tengok di Thailand…guna tentera terhadap pemisah..adakah mereka iktiraf pemisah? Filipina sendiri guna tentera berdekad2 terhadap Moro..adakah merek iktiraf Moro? Israel guan tentera ke atas palestin..adakah mereka iktiraf palestin? Burma guna tentera ke atas Rohingya…malah mereka langsung tak mengaku Rohingya rakyat Burma apatah lagi nak iktiraf Rohingya sebagai wilayah?
At 2013.03.04 19:28, truthseeker said: aku sokong bro Yusof. Aku dah nak muntah dgn alasan2 yg tak masuk akal kenapa tak guna tentera.
Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) founding chairman Nur Misuari on Tuesday lambasted President Aquino for his alleged mishandling of the Sabah conflict and warned any attempt to arrest Sulu Sultan Jamalul Kiram III would plunge the country in “total chaos.”
President Aquino in a TV address on Monday spoke about the alleged involvement of former officials in the previous Arroyo administration in the Sabah conflict.
He said he had no evidence yet of this conspiracy and did not give details but news reports have tagged Misuari among the conspirators, along with former National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales and several others.
Gonzales denied the reports.
“Does he feel guilty? The President never mentioned anybody. He said that ‘I will not name names until I have sufficient evidence,’” presidential spokesman Edwin Lacierda told reporters.
Lacierda said that Justice Secretary Leila de Lima was looking into the role of the personalities in the standoff, and would determine what charges to file against the players and conspirators.
Siding with enemy
“What he has done is very bad. It is unbecoming of a head of state, to be siding with the enemy of his own people,” Misuari told reporters at the house of Sulu Sultan Jamalul Kiram III in Taguig City. He arrived as Princess Jacel Kiram, the sultan’s daughter, was wrapping up a press conference.
“And for what reason is he (Aquino) aligning this country with Malaysia, a colonial power occupying the land of our people? I am against that, totally against that with all my soul. I hope the President will be properly advised. I hope he will recant. Otherwise we won’t forgive him,” Misuari said.
“And there is an attempt even to arrest the sultan, I understand. Let them do that. The country will be in total chaos if they do, I promise you.”
Misuari also belied allegations that he “inspired” the Sulu sultanate to sail to Sabah and renew the claim over Sabah, which he described as “our homeland.”
He recalled that he used to cross the seas to go to Sabah as a young man without a passport “because it is our homeland.”
Misuari said that he could not have “inspired” the sultanate to reclaim Sabah now with only some 200 men because “that is not my way of doing things.”
He said that when the MNLF decided to resolve the problem about the Abu Sayyaf’s kidnap-for-ransom trade, around 4,000 MNLF fighters were deployed to face the terrorist group.
MANILA, Philippines—The existence of the “royal army” of the Sultanate of Sulu was first monitored by intelligence units in 2001 and was seemingly a “harmless” group during that time, National Security Adviser Cesar Garcia said Tuesday.
In an interview with Radyo Inquirer 990AM, Garcia said initial reports on Sultan Jamalul Kiram III Royal Security Forces revealed that the group held trainings but did not carry firearms. He said it was just like “a group trying to make a statement.”
“Parang harmless naman sila,” Garcia said, noting that Kiram III even ran for a senatorial seat under Team Unity in the 2007 elections.
However, Garcia said that the group went off the intelligence radar in 2005, but it apparently remobilized after “the group didn’t feel that they were given enough participation and role in the framework agreement” between the Philippine government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front.
sumber : http://globalnation.inquirer.net/66981/royal-army-existence-first-monitored-in-2001-natl-security-adviser
MANILA, Philippines–The command ship of the United States 7th Fleet will dock at the Manila South Harbor on Thursday for a routine port call. In a statement, the US Embassy said the USS Blue Ridge (LCC-19) will make a port call and goodwill visit “that highlights the strong historic, community and military connections between United States and the Philippines.”
The US ship is currently forward-deployed to US Navy Fleet Activities in Yokosuka, Japan.
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Elite US forces backing the RAS militants?Exclusive by BI Investigative TeamHabiba Kiram (right) – how reliable is the FB information?KOTA KINABALU: The ‘invasion of Sabah’ by the militant group calling themselves the Royal Army of Sulu Sultanate (RAS) was apparently planned at least seven months ago.A Facebook message of one of the key RAS officials, Habiba Kiram that was forwarded to the Borneo Insider by a reliable source, also indicated that the group was getting ready to invade Sabah in late November, last year.And Habiba has even implicated the United States elite forces for backing their cause to claim back Sabah. (see attached photo of the Facebook message).Habiba allegedly claimed that they were waiting for the US elite forces to give them the signal and that some 10,000 of its armed men were already in Sabah since seven months ago.(Disclaimer: Borneo Insider has no way of confirming this with any of the United States authorities and we only can go by the remarks made in the Facebook conversation between Habiba and another party).It is understood that the Malaysian intelligence community was said to have been alerted about it sometime in July last year.This came about following information leaked by unknown sources that a key RAS official was raising funds to purchase a sizeable quantity of firearms, including assault rifles, in Bongao, Tawi Tawi, in Philippines.Take note of the messages in the FB grab.Sources close to the Malaysian intelligence community also told Borneo Insider that no one should take the “attempted invasion” lightly, citing that members of the militant group comprised of war-hardened militants who have got nothing to fear or lose.“They (RAS) are determined to claim back Sabah and this attempt (intrusion) is part of their plans to achieve that, so as to create sufficient international attention.They are also planning to bring the matter to the International Court of Justice to file for an official claim of part of their territories in Sabah,” said the source.(DISCLAIMER: The Borneo Insider has absolutely no way of confirming the exact authenticity of the alleged Facebook ‘conversations’ between Habiba and the second party, except to state that the source who gave us the two FB-Grabs claims the ‘conversation’ did take place).This FB grab shows the claim made by Habiba that they are waiting for US forces to give the signal.
6 Responses to Elite US forces backing the RAS militants?jerryReply
March 3, 2013 at 7:49 AMI have known that such incident will happen ever since the early 1980′s;those philipinos from manila{Jaycees group}also leaked out the news that Philippines will claim Sabah;it’s only a question of time;& indeed its turn out to be true;even though the late Marcos had already called off the claim when he was alive!!
FREDERICK LOUReply
March 4, 2013 at 11:26 PMSABAH JOINED MALAYSIA IN 1963 BY DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.IT IS THE CHOICE OF THE SABAH PEOPLE.love will bring the world out of economy mess,think good,say good n do good
abo marouaneReply
March 5, 2013 at 12:11 PMANYTHING THAT INVOLVES THE US MILITARY AND ITS CO – ALLIANCE, HOWEVER SMALL OR BIG SHALT NOT BE TOLERATED IN THIS REGION, WHAT MORE TAKING SABAH AS A TESTING BATTLE GROUND, TO DESTABILISE THE PEACEFUL ASIAN HEGEMONY OF THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN SPHERES — TAKE NOTE CHINA, NORTH KOREA AND OF COURSE THE FEDERATION OF UNITED RUSSIA!!
Brother Pat NuruddinReply
March 5, 2013 at 11:19 PMUnited Nation must come in to resolve the crises in sabah. If the Sultan of Sulu has the rigth to claim North Borneo then justice must be given a chance.
marukuReply
March 6, 2013 at 8:11 AMus army never win any battle in south east asia /asiathe morality of the m’sian army totally different compare to arab nationswe never scare of this stupid american , well come you with bullets and serve you with bloods ,and we placed you in hell .IF WE DONT FIGHT WE ALSO DIE IS BETTER WE FIGHT AND THEN WE DIE,WE DONT TRAVEL THOUSANDS OF KILOMETERS TO CHOOSE OUR COFFIN IN SABAH
CinnamonapeReply
March 6, 2013 at 9:53 AMI think the claim that the RAS is backed by the US Military is simply wishful thinking…no propaganda…by the Sultan and his aides. It serves two purposes. First it causes the foolhardy to think that they will have “backing” no matter how insane their efforts. Second, it causes a breach between Malaysia and the US…and perhaps may result in some Americans getting harassed in Sabah or Malaysia.Does anyone think that the MILF/MNLF/Abu Sayaaf fighters that the US Navy has been fighting in these waters since 911 would suddenly be their buddies???An aide to Sultan Jamalul said yesterday that the US “had to” come to the “mutual defense” of the Sultanate based on the 1915 Carpenter Agreement.
Fact: The 1915 Carpenter Agreement actually demilitarized the Sulu Sultan (thus he had no military to “offer mutual aide”). Furthermore it limited his power to an “ecclesiastic role” based on “voluntary contributions”. It dismembered any governmental role, and stripped the Sultanate of sovereignty. There is no clause about coming to the Sultanates defense…because there was no Sultanate after this point. The US would defend “Philippine territory” but then agreed not to pursue any claims in the UK Protectorate of Sabah.This is just blab, blah, blah from the Sultans supporters
......aku adakala tertanya2 adakah bunyi tembakan yg didengar army pd awal kejadian adalah tembakan dari orang kiram sendiri thdp ahli2 pasukannya yg ingin menyerah diri ??? begitu juge dgn kejadian pd hari 2 polis terkorban, adakah bendera putih tu tanda tdpt pengikut2nya yg ingin menyerah diri tetapi telah ditembak oleh para sniper kiram yg telah berada di beberapa tempat strategik yg x diketahui oleh pengikut2 nye ini (yg ingin surrender) langsung menembak juga kpd sume anggota kita??? adakah ini sebenar2 'trap' ??? jadi sebab tu la kiram x bekalkan sume pengikutnya dgn senjata api krn kiram hanya percaya orang2 nya shj.......even x silap aku ada satu laporan berita kat filipina menyatakan tuan punya rumah tempat kiram buat base tu da terbunuh ??? jadi ni tentu la bermakna x sume gol sulu/tausuq ni menyokong kiram ??? .....jadi jika mrk meninggal juga, rasanya mrk juga gugur sbg syuhada ......wallahualam......
aku pun benci baca cerita politik..
tapi mau tak mau isu ni memang 99% kebarangkalian ada kaitan dgn politik..
kuasa punya pasal, manusia sanggup buat apa saja..
terpikir jugak aku kekadang, best sangat ke bila ada kuasa ni..
aku paling takut kalau isu ni melarat jadi peristiwa yg lebih besar..
memang tak mustahil ada satu kuasa besar dibelakangnya..
cuma buat masa ni, tak berani nak tuding jari pada pihak mana..
sebab setakat kemampuan akal manusia, semuanya nampak meengelirukan..
tak tahu mana pihak yg benar dan mana yg salah..
aku sentiasa bedoa semoga Allah tunjukkan pada kita semua rakyat Malaysia, siapa yg benar dan beri kemenangan buat mereka yg benar.. bebaskan bumi malaysia dari penipuan dan kezaliman.. insyaa Allah, doa orang2 teraniaya ni dimakbulkan, jika kita termasuk golongan teraniaya.
apapu aku harap semua ni tidak benar, dan berharap yg aku ni hanya terlalu terpengaruh dgn teori konspirasi...
manganini posted on 19-3-2013 08:48 AM
aku pun benci baca cerita politik..
tapi mau tak mau isu ni memang 99% kebarangkalian ada kaitan dg ...
sedikit sebanyak aku setuju gak dgn asas2 pendapat kau tu & forummer2 yg lain di atas tu. kan currency politik tu adalah kuasa, spt mana juga duit; kalau kuasa tu x dilihat sbg satu amanah/tjawab & ia disalahgunakan; tentu ia akan timbul masalah......mmg teori konspirasi ni kita x boleh percaya bulat2 kerna nanti kita pula yg jadi paranoia/paranoid.....aku cam kau tetap mendoakan yg terbaik buat sume anggota keselamatan & tanahair kita yg tercinta......mmg terasa di sudut hati kepiluan yg melampau atas kehilangan para pejuang syuhada kita .....takziah buat kita sume sebenarnya......
ada kala aku rasa ada baiknya pasukan us membantu memantau keadaan konflik yg berlaku di perairan pasifik selatan ni termasuk laut cina selatan & laut sulu yg terang2 boleh mencetuskan ketegangan antara negara2 yg inginkan kepulauan spratly.....us ni mmg ada pangkalan skuadron aircraft carriernya yg besar berpangkalan di jepun iaitu uss nimitz......kita kan pernah menolong renjer us dulu dlm ops blackhawk down di somalia dulu, jadi mungkin mrk boleh membantu kita dlm mengawal konflik di laut sulu ni.....aku tetap yakin semangat setiakawan yg kuat antara kita, indonesia, brunei & filipina boleh membantu menangani konflik yg sedang berlaku ni.....hanya keamanan yg berkekalan kita impikan utk kesejahteraan hidup rakyat di rantau asia tenggara ni.....
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