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PERKARA2 MISTERI SEBELUM BERLAKU INSIDEN PENCEROBOHAN DI LAHAD DATU, SABAH !!
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apam posted on 3-3-2013 09:14 AM 
memang amerika yg jadi punca sebenarnya....mungkin bukan anwar, tapi kebanyakan pemimpin bukan melay ...
saya sdh cakap...itu non muslim tidak akan suka dan ikut org muslim sehingga hari kiamat..itu sdh ditulis dalam kitab quran. mereka sedaya upaya meraka akan memeranggi org Islam secara halus, kasar, idealogi etc utk menghapuskan fahaman Islam..ingat tu wahai org Islam semua.... busuk busuk pun agama kena tengok juga. |
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laxmanall posted on 3-3-2013 03:11 AM
The standoff in Sabah, and its timing, validates the fact that powerful, unseen hands ar ...
Ni semua salah Mahathir |
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sumber : http://globalnation.inquirer.net/69937/sulu-sultan-disowns-8-accused-in-malaysia
SULTAN SULU DAKWA 8 TERTUDUH BUKAN ORANGNYA ???
Are the eight men charged in Malaysia for the intrusion by followers of the sultan of Sulu into Sabah Filipinos or Malaysians?
After condemning on Thursday the filing of charges against the eight as “terroristic,” the Sulu sultanate on Friday disowned the suspects, saying they were not Filipinos but Malaysians.
Abraham Idjirani, spokesman for the sultanate, said the sultanate learned about the “fall guys” from a source in Sabah.
At least one of the eight arraigned at the Tawau High Court on Thursday admitted during the proceedings that he was paid to join the group from Sulu.
The Star newspaper of Malaysia identified the suspect as Holland (spelled “Holan” by Idjirani) Kalbi.
Speaking in court through a Badjao interpreter, Kalbi said he was asked by “someone” to join the group, but did not identify who it was. He also did not say how much he was paid to go with Agbimuddin’s group.
“I was just being foolish,” The Star quoted Kalbi as saying in court.
But Gani said Kalbi’s statement should not be recorded.
The judge reminded Kalbi not to say anything until he has a lawyer.
The SLA is providing legal representation to the eight accused.
Idjirani said Kalbi was one of Jamalul’s followers who were killed in the March 1 “massacre” in Tanduo village in Lahad Datu town.
Idjirani was referring to the police assault on Agbimuddin’s group in which 18, not 10, of Jamalul’s followers were killed.
Idjirani apologized for the earlier body count, which proved to be wrong, he said, because full information was not available at the time.
‘They are Filipinos’
But Syarulnizam Salleh, chair of the human rights subcommittee of the Sabah Lawyers Association (SLA), told the Inquirer by phone on Friday that the eight men charged with launching terroristic acts and waging war against Malaysian King Abdul Halim were Filipinos.
Salleh said he learned about the nationality of the eight men during his meeting with Malaysian Attorney General Gani Patail on Thursday night.
The SLA, however, said in a posting on its website that Malaysian authorities had arrested not only Filipinos but also Malaysians in the security operations to end the intrusion by followers of Sulu Sultan Jamalul Kiram III.
The Malaysian authorities have arrested 108 people suspected of links to the Sulu group led by Jamalul’s brother, Agbimuddin Kiram.
But they’re dead
Idjirani reiterated that Kalbi was one of the 18 “martyrs” of Tanduo.
“Now he is one of the eight accused. So what’s this?” Idjirani asked.
Another alleged follower of the Sulu sultanate charged on Wednesday and arraigned on Thursday was identified as Lin Mad Salleh.
But Idjirani said “Ling Mad Salli” (his own spelling) was also one of the 18 Tanduo “martyrs.”
“Have the Malaysians resurrected the two RSF men?” Idjirani asked, using the shorthand for the “Royal Security Forces” of the Sulu sultanate.
“Our basis for saying that they are not Filipinos is that our source from Sabah called us to say they are Malaysians. They are not Filipinos,” Idjirani said.
“To confirm this, they (Malaysian authorities) should divulge where they were caught. If they were caught outside Lahad Datu, they were [Malaysian] civilians,” he said.
“They were set up to make Filipinos afraid, because Malaysian security forces have become abusive because of their internal security act,” he added.
The accused
The eight alleged followers of Sultan Jamalul faced Judge P. Ravinthran of the Tawau High Court on Thursday to be arraigned of the charges brought by the Malaysian authorities against them the day before.
Kalbi, Salleh, Habil Suhaili and Timhar Hadir are accused of launching acts of terrorism in Sabah. They face life imprisonment on conviction.
Atik Hussein Abu Bakar and Basad H. Manuel are also accused of terrorism as well as waging war against the Malaysian king. If convicted, they will be sentenced to death.
Kadir Uyung and Lating Tiong are accused of harboring a terrorist group, and face life imprisonment. They were arrested on that charge in Tanjung Labian on March 4, a day before the Malaysian military launched air and ground operations to crush Agbimuddin’s group.
No plea was entered for the eight accused following an application by Attorney General Gani, who led the team of prosecutors.
The charges are nonbailable.
Gani told the court that though only two of the accused faced charges that carried the death penalty, the prosecution would see to it that all eight would have legal representation in the interest of human rights.
He said he had discussed legal representation for the accused with the SLA and the Bar Council of Malaysia.
Salleh of the SLA confirmed earlier information received by the Inquirer that some of the accused were placed in straitjackets.
Straitjackets for security
Gani applied to the court for the procedure and Justice Ravinthran granted his application “for security reasons,” according to a copy of the court proceedings obtained by the Inquirer.
Ravinthran subsequently ordered the trial of the eight accused to start on April 12.
Gani said some of the accused would be jointly tried while individual hearings would be held for others, as they were arrested at different places or time.
Of the eight accused, one is under 19 years old. Some are Badjao and others are Orang Suluk or Tausug.
In a statement issued Friday, the Philippine Embassy in Kuala Lumpur said it welcomed Gani’s assurance that the eight Filipinos would be given legal assistance.
The embassy and Salleh of the SLA said they were coordinating with each other for legal representation for the accused.
Mopping up operations
Mopping up operations continued in Lahad Datu Friday to clear the villages of Agbimuddin’s men.
Malaysian authorities said 68 members of Agbimuddin’s group had been killed in fighting since March 1.
But Idjirani said that by the sultanate’s reckoning, only 26 of the 235 members of Agbimuddin’s group had been killed. Four were wounded and 10 were arrested, he said.
Idjirani identified the 10 he earlier reported as killed in Tanduo as Kalbi, Salli, Ibrahim Suhudah, Junaidi Harain, Adulkader Jumaadil, Hawadi Jumaadil, Tar Undang, Sangkahan Ajan, and Datu and Mrs. Maharajah Sabandal.
He did not identify the eight others whose deaths in the police assault the sultanate learned about only later.
Other losses
In addition to the 18 killed in Tanduo on March 1, Idjirani said four were killed during the air and artillery attacks on March 5, and two others were killed later because they shielded Agbimuddin from soldiers’ fire.
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SUMBER : http://globalnation.inquirer.net/70091/malaysian-police-name-captured-royal-army-commander
POLIS MALAYSIA KENAL PASTI SUSPEK KOMANDER
TENTERA YANG DITANGKAP
DAVAO CITY – The Malaysian police on Sunday released the identity of the Sulu “royal army” commander, who was captured in Semporna district on Saturday, amid speculations in Sabah he could be Agbimuddin Kiram.
Malaysian police deputy chief Khalid Abu Bakar told a Sabah-based radio station that the arrested commander was Amirbahar Hushin Kiram, 50.
Amirbahar was arrested with his wife, Gina Teves, 47, at a marshy area in Kampung Sri Melor Bugaya around 1:30 a.m. Saturday following a tip-off, Khalid said.
He said seized from the couple were various items such as mobile phones, a money transfer card, cash amounting to over RM3,000 and various documents.
But Khalid would still not name the two other suspects, who were earlier arrested, except for saying one of them was the son of a former Tanduo village chief, who has Filipino ancestry.
He said the arrested suspects would be charged with terrorism and rebellion, or abetting these two acts, before the courts.
Khalid also said the latest arrests had brought to 408 the number of people taken into police custody under Operasi Daulat and over 100 of them were being directly linked to the Feb. 9 Sabah intrusion by the “royal army.”
Since Ops Daulat was launched on March 5, Malaysian security officials said 63 suspected Sulu gunmen had already been killed while the Malaysian side suffered 10 deaths – eight of them policemen.
Out of the number of slain gunmen, Khalid said 38 bodies had been retrieved.
For more than a week now, the Sulu gunmen had not launched any attack against Malaysian security forces on Sabah and the recent skirmishes were prompted by Malaysian ground operation.
Khalid said the main reason was that the “Sulu terrorists” had become leaderless with the arrest of Amirbahar, the death of Commander Musa more than two weeks ago, and when Agbimuddin fled to the Philippines.
But Agbimuddin’s son-in-law, Danilo Datu Abdullah Virtudazo told the Philippine Daily Inquirer in Cagayan de Oro City that the Sulu “royal army” – or what remains of it – was in defensive stance in deference to a ceasefire declared by Sultan Jamalul Kiram III based on a recent letter of appeal from UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.
“The sultanate respected the call for ceasefire but Malaysia did not,” Virtudazo, who is married to Agbimuddin’s fourth daughter, Dayang Mura Napsa, said.
For Malaysian Defense Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, the lack of aggressiveness on the side of Agbimuddin’s men might have been brought about by the fact that their number had been greatly reduced with the high death toll and arrests, their being leaderless, or because they had feared about not getting paid anymore.
“We received similar feedback from the Philippine government that the armed men were paid to carry out the attacks in Sabah,” Ahmad was quoted by state-run Radio 24 as saying on Saturday.
Malaysian Home Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said his agency was working closely with Philippine intelligence agencies, such as the National Intelligence Coordinating Agency (Nica), in gathering facts behind the Sabah intrusion.
As Malaysia continues to clamp down on the “royal army,” a descendant of the Sulu royal house – Prof. Rita Tuban of the state-run University of Southeastern Philippines in Davao City – urged Sulu royals to retry the diplomatic way of settling the Sabah claim.
Tuban traces her ancestry from Sultan Jamalul Kiram I (reigned 1823-1842) and is known among Tausugs as Princess Jamala-Rah II.
She said a meeting among Sulu royals should be facilitated by the government so that any peaceful solution agreed would be acceptable to all.
“I think it should be the government to call all the members of the sultanate, just to represent the houses, to unite them in whatever decision they will arrived at on the Sabah claim,” she said.
Prof. Julkipli Wadi of the University of the Philippines had also said during a forum on the Sabah issue, which was organized by Universiti Malaya, on Friday was quoted by state-run media Berita Nasional Malaysia as saying that Malaysia and the Philippines should find ways to immediately resolve the Sabah issue as it could create a larger problem, especially if a third party steps in.
Also speaking during the same forum, Romel Bagares, director of the Manila-based Center for International Law (CenterLaw), warned that the Sabah crisis will eventually have “adverse impacts on security…of the Asean region as a whole.”
“If it escalates, it will not be a Malaysia-Philippines issue anymore. It will cause power imbalance and instability in the region. This is something Asean does not want to happen,” Bagares was quoted as saying.
Prof. Mohamad Abu Bakar, head of the International and Strategic Studies at Universiti Malaya, said in settling the issues, Malaysia and the Philippines should also involve the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) and the heirs of the sultanate of Sulu.
Malacañang has made it clear that the Philippine government will bring the country’s Sabah claim before an international arbiter if evidence could support claims the disputed territory indeed belongs to the Philippines.
Malaysian historian Dr. Khoo Kay Kim said this was welcome development but said he was optimistic that “Malaysia would win the case, based on historical records and evidence which clearly showed that Sabah belonged to Malaysia.”
“All records are in our favor,” Bernama quoted him as saying.
But Malaysian historian Dr. Ranjit Singh, a professor emeritus at the Universiti Utara Malaysia, disagreed on the idea to involve the ICJ over the Sabah issue saying there was no need for Malaysia to argue its case before the international court.
“Apart from historical facts, the Sulu Sultanate and the Philippines had in fact lost their sovereignty rights of Sabah to Malaysia based on the principle of effectivity,” Bernama quoted him as saying.
He said the sultanate has not ruled over Sabah since 1878 until its demise. The Philippines has no basis to claim the territory either because it was never a Sabah administrator.
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Pasni kucing mati kena langgar kt jalan pun diorg kata konspirasi |
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hmm bila dah nak pru ni byk sgt spekulasinya.. nath betul ntah tidak |
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hunny_bunny posted on 3-3-2013 02:05 PM
Bodo nyeee la haiii...menda2 melibatkan hal serius cemni tlg laaaaa jgn nak camporkan dgn politik... ...
Manusia boleh buat mcm2 utk kepentingan POLITIK ..sebab memang dari dulu dalam bangsa melayu pun ada talibarut yang tidak bertanggungjawab.. oleh sebab itu saya percaya kemungkinan ada dari orang dalam sendiri (ORG MALAYSIA). ini realiti.. tetapi samaada PKR or UMNO or anybody memang boleh jadi tali barut..Kita berharap tali barut tersebut tak kiralah dari parti mana agar terus dpt ditangkap dan ditembak saja.. |
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Simunggu posted on 21-3-2013 03:26 PM
saya sdh cakap...itu non muslim tidak akan suka dan ikut org muslim sehingga hari kiamat..itu sdh ...
Janganlah beranggapan demikian.
Yang non muslim pun boleh berkata begitu juga pada yang muslim.
Tidak semua non muslim seperti yang digambarkan oleh anda.
Yang menceroboh negara kita pun muslim juga kan? (kalau hanya dilihat dari sudut agama)
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unoryah posted on 29-3-2013 12:05 AM
Janganlah beranggapan demikian.
Yang non muslim pun boleh berkata begitu juga pada yang muslim. ...
ada tangan jahat di belakang...itu sulu mana ada duit beli senjata..begitu juga PKR..mana ada duit.....think out side the box sikit..kejatuhan syria..apa kamu fikir tidak campur tangan org ketiga?? don't tell tak ada....
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Simunggu posted on 29-3-2013 12:51 AM
ada tangan jahat di belakang...itu sulu mana ada duit beli senjata..begitu juga PKR..mana ada duit ...
Yang ini saya setuju.
Saya rasa semua orangpun tau (dulu saya memang tak percaya)
Kesian pada mereka yang terkorban.
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unoryah posted on 29-3-2013 01:03 AM
Yang ini saya setuju.
Saya rasa semua orangpun tau (dulu saya memang tak percaya)
saya memang dari dulu percaya apa apa yg berlaku di dunia ini adalah kerana campur tangan org ketiga. yg selalu nampak jahat org Islam. ini adalah kenyataan..tapi org tidak mau terima. itu sbb aku dari awal lagi cakap mereka mereka ini licik...macam sdh di ajar untuk jadi 1 kepala bukan 1M.
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Simunggu posted on 29-3-2013 01:08 AM
saya memang dari dulu percaya apa apa yg berlaku di dunia ini adalah kerana campur tangan org keti ...
Taklah.
Saya non muslim tapi tak pun beranggapan muslim ini jahat (serius).
Saya percaya, semua orang boleh jadi jahat tak kira muslim atau non muslim.
Pencerobohan di LD ni salah satu buktinya.
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unoryah posted on 29-3-2013 01:14 AM
Taklah.
Saya non muslim tapi tak pun beranggapan muslim ini jahat (serius).
secara individu memang semua manusia ada pertimbangan yg baik seperti anda sendiri, tapi bila sebagai 1 kesatuan contohnya party politik dan negara..sdh tentu ada policy dan prinsip mereka. bila bercangah dengan prinsip kumpulan tersebut maka jadi lah kejahatan. kalau tidak memang dunia ini tak akan pernah ada peperangan dari dulu hingga sampai kiamat...konsep yg amat dalam yg saya rasa kamu belum faham. I try not to accept perbezaan tapi kenyataan nya memang berbeza. kamu cuba terangkan dengan saya secara jujur kenapa PBS suatu ketika dulu beria ia mau membawa Sabah keluar Malaysia...kenapa?????? sbb utama ada sangka jahat mereka terhadap org lain kan?
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Simunggu posted on 29-3-2013 01:29 AM
secara individu memang semua manusia ada pertimbangan yg baik seperti anda sendiri, tapi bila seba ...
Saya faham.
Itulah yang menyedihkan.
Sangka jahat yang ada pada PBS itupun diwujudkan oleh pihak sebelah juga kan?
Semuanya bersebab. Dan yang memulakan sebab itu, merekalah sebenarnya yang durjana.
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ulasan raja petra (rpk):
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http://www.malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/55331-the-untold-story-of-the-lahat-datu-incident
On 16th July 2012, Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim flew to Jakarta to meet Nur Misuari -- who is very close to Anwar since the days when Anwar was in the government -- and the military commanders of the MNLF. The meeting was held in the Crowne Plaza Jakarta hotel and was arranged by an Indonesian Member of Parliament -- another close friend of Anwar -- at the behest of Anwar. A second meeting was held in Manila on 4th August 2012 to finalise and seal the agreement.
THE CORRIDORS OF POWER
Raja Petra Kamarudin
I wrote about this matter eight years ago back in 2005. However, many of you were probably not yet readers of Malaysia Today in 2005 so you most likely did not read what I wrote then. For those of you who can remember what I wrote, it was a very long story indeed but basically it was about the links between the Muslim leaders in the Malaysian government and the Muslim leaders in the Philippines and the role that Malaysia played in the ‘internal affairs’ of the Philippines. Most Malaysians do not understand the difference with Sulus, MNLF, MILF and Abu Sayyaf -- as they do not know the difference between the PLO and Hamas. Nevertheless, let me simplify it by saying that they are all merely splinter or rival groups of the Muslims in the Philippines who are seeking self-determination, just like the Palestinians in the Middle East are. And Malaysia, being a Muslim country, sympathises with the Muslims of the Philippines -- as it does with the Muslims of Southern Thailand -- and is helping in any way it can to resolve both the Philippines and Southern Thailand issues. Along the way, however, something went wrong. As I had written in 2005, certain promises were made that were not delivered. And this has a bearing on the Sabah ‘IC issue’ (you do not need a RCI for me to tell you that). And that resulted in the Sipidan hostage crisis and the involvement of Libya in helping to eventually resolve the crisis after many months of deadlock. A reported RM50 million changed hands to secure the release of the hostages, the cost which Libya underwrote. Of course, no one is going to admit to this although they will not be able to explain how and why the hostages were eventually released. But all that happened decades ago. We are talking about the start of the crisis in 1970, when many of you were not even born yet, and the hostage crisis 30 years later in 2000. Since then everything has been very quiet -- that is until last year when this whole thing was resurrected in preparation for the coming general election. And this was what happened recently. Anwar's and Nur Miusari's links go way back to the time Anwar was in government On 16th July 2012, Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim flew to Jakarta to meet Nur Misuari -- who is very close to Anwar since the days when Anwar was in the government -- and the military commanders of the MNLF. The meeting was held in the Crowne Plaza Jakarta hotel and was arranged by an Indonesian Member of Parliament -- another close friend of Anwar -- at the behest of Anwar. A second meeting was held in Manila on 4th August 2012 to finalise and seal the agreement. Anwar flew to Manila on flight MH 704 and if you were to check these flight details you can confirm that Anwar did make this trip, as he did the trip to Jakarta just two weeks or so earlier.
In that meeting, Anwar told Misuari that he needs the latter’s help to win the coming general election. Pakatan Rakyat was confident of winning at least 82-85 of the 165 seats in West Malaysia. It was the 57 seats in Sabah, Sarawak and Labuan that he was not confident of winning. Pakatan Rakyat needs to win at least 30 of those 57 East Malaysian seats to be able to form the federal government with an extremely slim but comfortable enough majority. (Anwar can always increase this majority later with crossovers from Barisan Nasional once they form the government). And for that to happen Anwar needs the support of the Muslims in East Malaysia, in particular in Sabah, many of them Filipino Muslims with Malaysian citizenship and voting rights. Anwar promised Misuari that in the event Pakatan Rakyat takes over the federal government, Sabah and Sarawak would be given autonomy, as what they had been fighting for over 42 years since 1970. These two East Malaysian states would also be given 20% oil royalty, an increase of 15% from the current 5%. This would ensure that these two states would become very wealthy -- an estimated RM4 billion a year for each state. Furthermore, all the non-Malaysian Filipinos in East Malaysia would be given Malaysian citizenship -- or at the very minimum permanent resident status -- so that they could seek employment in Sabah. Jobs for them will also be assured.
Nur Misuari agreed to these terms and subsequently appointed Haji Ibrahim Omar as the MNLF coordinator or ‘unofficial ambassador’ to Sabah to help Anwar garner the support of the Filipino Muslims in that state. And that was why the Malaysian government hesitated to take drastic action when trouble first emerged in Lahad Datu. The government knew that there was more than meets the eye in this whole episode although it was not too clear yet at that time how this incident fit in to the bigger scheme of things. To leave things alone is certainly out of the question. But taking military action would only play into the hands of the conspirators and convince the Filipino Muslims in Sabah that they must unite behind Anwar to gain autonomy from the federal government. Yes, the Lahad Datu incident was certainly a ‘wayang’, as the opposition claims. Very few Malaysians would deny that this is so. Many Malaysians are also convinced that there are certain ‘dalang’ behind this incident. What they do not know is: who is the dalang? Well, Malaysia Today has just revealed the untold story and I challenge the Malaysian government to deny the authenticity of what I have just revealed. Another point to consider is whether the ‘war of words’ between the MNLF and MILF is another wayang. By perpetuating this conflict, which will result in the torpedoing of the peace process, this gives them an excuse for continuing the armed conflict. However, the relationship between the MNLF and the other splinter groups does not appear as ruptured as what it shows behind the scenes, if the above photograph is anything to go by. My conclusion to this whole thing is that there are many plots and sub-plots and at the end of the day we really do not know who is playing whom.
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komen yg agak menarik dpd guest ttg 'projek ic' (kalau betul wujud) :
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Sampai bila la org sabah ne berfikiran sempit..itu jak yg kamu tau..projek ic2..jadi mama bapa kamu nenek datuk kamu dpt ic dpd mana?..dulu2 org kampung ndak ada transport p pendaftaran ..itula kerajaan ambik jalan mudah datang p kampung buat ic..senang ja mental kamu kena manipulasi oleh kaum 2 jadikan kamu batu loncatan dlm diam2 dgn cara halus mau conquer sabah...x nampak ka apa jadi dgn singapor..nama jak org sabah tapi sejarah sabah pn ndak tau...belajar ja sekolah tinggi tapi dgn populasi penduduk yg kecik boleh ka sabah 2 maju..kamu cakap ic projek bagi dgn org filipin la..jadi yg kaum cina semua ka memang truly malaysian..kamu x tau ka zaman dulu anak diorang mati diorang x register tapi panggil orang2 diorang dari china dri hongkong jadi anak diorang spy dapat ic..itu kamu x pertikaikan pulak?
betul gak kata guest ni kerana sume application ic baru kan diproses sama rata tanpa libatkan kaum2 tertentu.....mungkin selepas ini proses permohonan warganegara m'sia perlu diperketatkan utk menjamin kestabilan politik, ekonomi & sosial negara...
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laxmanall posted on 29-3-2013 04:35 AM
komen yg agak menarik dpd guest ttg 'projek ic' (kalau betul wujud) :
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setuju betul dgn kamu. sabah tak akan maju dgn populasi yg seciput seperti dulu dulu. macam mana restoran mau maju kalau tiada org..asik asik org sama masuk. jalanraya pun tak guna buat kalau kurang pengguna.
ramai org tidak nampak ini. sekarang ada org ambil kesempatan dari insiden di LD. mereka pukul rata semua org datang dari luar terutama dari pilipin dan indon itu tidak ada guna. perlu hantar balik semua katanya. mereka ini mcm hidup bawah tempurung. mereka belum nampak lagi di negara negara maju macam US, UK..berapa banyak org luar masuk secara sah.
mau blame org pilipin dan indon shj..mcm mana pendatang cina yg komunis ini?
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mana-mana peperangan yang berlaku dalam dunia ini pasti melibatkan politik... tolong la yer....  |
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Post time 21-3-2013 03:26 PM
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