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[Tempatan] Tragedi MH17 V5 : 35 jenazah selamat dibawa pulang termasuk 2 jenazah pd 9/9

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Post time 19-8-2014 10:45 AM | Show all posts
gamba raptai je pun dah bergenang airmata aku.nanti tanak tengok ahh
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Post time 19-8-2014 10:52 AM | Show all posts
lionsleepin posted on 19-8-2014 10:42 AM
fifie...adalah kelonggarannya..
memang mereput..tapi they've tried teir best to preserve the rema ...

yup betuii..

`Rohani said the remains would then be vacuum-packed before being sealed in a coffin and sent home.'



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Post time 19-8-2014 10:56 AM | Show all posts
biggirlduncry posted on 19-8-2014 10:52 AM
yup betuii..

`Rohani said the remains would then be vacuum-packed before being sealed in a cof ...

yes..if tengok uncensored pics2 bodies of mH17 kat crash site tu..alahai..semuanya menyayat hati...
so..memang elok sangat la waris jangan bukak coffin tu..pergi dengan memory dulu yg indah cukup..huhuhu sedih...

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Post time 19-8-2014 10:57 AM | Show all posts
fifie_olin posted on 19-8-2014 10:23 AM
mmgla dh siap mandi ..dikapankan...
maksud aku dh lama sgt mesti dh start mereput kan...
oo bole ...

penat oi nk pikir cenggini.

dh itu yg paling cpt blh buat setelah lalui semua proses. kira itu je la yg tercepat. nk cpt mcm mcm mn lagi. bukannya kes kemalangan biasa.
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Post time 19-8-2014 11:02 AM | Show all posts
lazim posted on 19-8-2014 08:57 AM
penat oi nk pikir cenggini.

dh itu yg paling cpt blh buat setelah lalui semua proses. kira itu  ...

kalo ye pon x yah la nk emo2

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Post time 19-8-2014 11:02 AM | Show all posts
lionsleepin posted on 19-8-2014 10:56 AM
yes..if tengok uncensored pics2 bodies of mH17 kat crash site tu..alahai..semuanya menyayat hati.. ...

yup... aku pun hope sgt2 semua pegawai2 yg bertugas kenal pasti mangsa..
check dna.. mandikan..kapankan bila balik msia esok tak payah la rajin2 mulut tu bercerita kat orang mcm mana keadaan mayat itu ini.

tragedi ni sendiri dah mmg menyayat hati so tak perlu bygkan bgimana keadaaan mangsa pun.


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Post time 19-8-2014 11:11 AM | Show all posts
fifie_olin posted on 19-8-2014 11:02 AM
kalo ye pon x yah la nk emo2

tak emo la. cuma penat tgk org pikir byak2 sgt.
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Post time 19-8-2014 11:14 AM | Show all posts
x boleh dgr lagu i'm coming home ni terus teringat MH370 & MH17...
sebak plak rasa....
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Post time 19-8-2014 11:23 AM | Show all posts
lazim posted on 19-8-2014 09:11 AM
tak emo la. cuma penat tgk org pikir byak2 sgt.

kalo penat x yah sibuk2 nk reply posting aku...aku pon x hadap

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Post time 19-8-2014 11:33 AM | Show all posts
aduhai....berjurai airmata masuk thread ni. kita yg tak ada kena mengena ni pun dah sedih tak terkata, bayangkan ahli keluarga mereka
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Post time 19-8-2014 11:49 AM | Show all posts
fifie_olin posted on 19-8-2014 11:23 AM
kalo penat x yah sibuk2 nk reply posting aku...aku pon x hadap

tanya lagi soalan persis setazah fb. org reply marah. sendri yg emo
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Post time 19-8-2014 12:20 PM | Show all posts
istihar la cuti.. ramai jugak rakyat yg nk sambut mereka..
sedihnyee..
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 Author| Post time 19-8-2014 12:45 PM | Show all posts
DALAM NEGERI
MH17: Proses urus jenazah masuk fasa akhir sebelum dihantar pulang


THE HAGUE (Belanda) 19 Ogos - Persiapan menguruskan jenazah mangsa tragedi MH17 kini memasuki fasa akhir, kira-kira 60 jam lagi sebelum 22 jenazah itu dihantar pulang dari Amsterdam ke Kuala Lumpur, untuk disempurna dan dilengkapkan sebelum diserah kepada waris keluarga.

Ini kerana hanya tinggal beberapa jenazah sahaja lagi daripada jumlah tersebut yang masih perlu melalui proses pengurusan dan dokumentasi di Rumah Mayat Monuta, S-Gravanhage di sini.

Ini termasuk upacara membakar mahupun solat jenazah yang akan dibuat ketua agama masing-masing yang telah dilantik dan semua proses ini dijangka diselesaikan pada Selasa atau selewat-lewatnya petang Rabu.

Selesai proses tersebut, kerajaan Malaysia melalui kedutaan besar di sini akan memohon kelulusan kerajaan Belanda menyerahkan semua jenazah itu untuk dibawa balik.

Pada Khamis pagi, dijangkakan jenazah akan dibawa masuk ke dalam pesawat khas Malaysia Airlines (MAS) dan akan disusun dalam kedudukan yang sangat tertib bagi menghormati jenazah tersebut sebelum pesawat berlepas pulang kira-kira pukul 2 petang.

Semalam, Duta Besar Malaysia di Belanda, Dr. Fauziah Mohamad Taib berkata, tiada sebarang upacara rasmi bagi penyerahan jenazah kepada kerajaan Malaysia pada Khamis ini.

Katanya, apa yang akan berlaku nanti hanyalah proses biasa mengeluarkan jenazah dari rumah mayat untuk diserahkan kepada kerajaan Malaysia sebelum dibawa ke lapangan terbang untuk dihantar pulang ke tanah air.

Sementara itu, sambil menyifatkan proses tersebut akan terus berjalan lancar sehingga tiba di Kuala Lumpur, Dr. Fauziah berkata, adalah menjadi harapan dan keinginan kerajaan serta MAS untuk membantu dan memenuhi permintaan waris dalam pengurusan dan penghantaran pulang jenazah itu.

Menurutnya, kedutaan juga akan mengibarkan bendera separuh tiang pada Khamis dan berkabung sehingga Jumaat sebagai tanda penghormatan terakhir kepada jenazah. - BERNAMA

Artikel Penuh: http://utusan.com.my/utusan/Dala ... ulang#ixzz3AoHtPh4r
© Utusan Melayu (M) Bhd
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Post time 19-8-2014 01:06 PM | Show all posts

Hans declined to see Elsemiek's body - he says "I want to remember the way she was before"

A month after the MH17 air disaster in eastern Ukraine the investigation still has a very long way to go, the BBC's Anna Holligan reports from The Hague.

"If you told me a month ago that I'd be happy my daughter's body was in one piece and not 17 pieces, I'd have thought you were crazy... now of course I am just grateful that she is home."

Hans de Borst's only child, Elsemiek, was identified on 8 August. She was 17 years old. Elsemiek is one of 127 victims identified so far by international teams of forensic investigators and pathologists working at a military base in Hilversum.

"They used her teeth and a ring," Elsemiek's father tells us. "I told the Family Detectives about the ring. She didn't wear much jewellery but always this ring. It had the letters 'Els'
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The dedicated "Family Detectives" have been assigned to act as a go-between. They provide a buffer between the clinical forensic investigation process and the personal grief of the relatives.

Two-thirds of the 298 people on board Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 were from the Netherlands. That is why the Dutch have taken the lead in identifying the bodies, trying to establish what caused the crash and running the criminal investigation.

Western governments suspect that the jet, with 298 people on board, was hit by a Russian surface-to-air missile fired by pro-Russian separatists. The rebels and Russia blamed the Ukrainian military for the crash.

Like most of the families, Hans de Borst gave DNA samples a week after the crash. He was also offered the chance to see his daughter's body in the makeshift morgue. He declined:

"They told me she is in one piece. So in that way maybe I am lucky. But she is damaged of course. I don't want to see that. I want to remember the way she was before... They took photographs, in case I change my mind in 10 years time."

Who did it?

This is the biggest criminal investigation ever conducted in the Netherlands.

"Never before have we had a murder case with so many victims," said Wim de Bruin from the Dutch prosecution service, fielding press inquiries from all over the world. Passengers from 10 different countries were on board Flight MH17.

Ten Dutch prosecutors and 200 police officers are involved in gathering and preparing the evidence for a criminal trial.

There are three main questions about the eventual MH17 trial: Where will it be conducted? What crimes will the accused be charged with? How long before we see the suspects in court?

The Dutch prosecutors are still in the initial stages of the criminal investigation, but they have already dismissed speculation that the trial could be held at the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

The ICC only takes cases if countries are unable or unwilling to prosecute. The Dutch are willing and able.

Under the current plan, the suspects would be extradited to face trial at the District Court in The Hague. But extradition would require the host country's co-operation, once the suspects are identified.

Wim de Bruin says they are considering "several grounds and possibilities" concerning the charges.

"Of course murder, but we also have the crime of 'wrecking an airplane' and we could use international criminal law - that would mean possible charges of war crimes, torture and genocide."

Lockerbie lessons
It is impossible, they say, to give a time frame. The only reference they have is Lockerbie. Pan Am Flight 103 was blown up over Scotland in 1988, killing 259 people on board and 11 others on the ground. In 2001, a Libyan intelligence officer was jailed for the bombing.

Yet questions remain about the bomb plot - not only the perpetrators but also the motives. In 2003 Col Muammar Gaddafi - later killed in the Arab Spring - accepted responsibility and paid compensation to the victims' families.

"With Lockerbie it took three years for the investigation and then another seven for the trial," Mr De Bruin recalls. "And that was with a plane that crashed in a peaceful place. With MH17 the case is more complicated."

The passengers were catapulted into a conflict zone. The evidence is scattered over a 35 sq km (13 sq mile) area, across sunflower fields and farmland.

Tributes in Hilversum church
Tributes in a Hilversum church: Three local families and a teenage boy died
And there are concerns about what happened to the debris in the initial days after the crash. Was vital evidence lost or tampered with? Two Dutch prosecutors flew to Kiev but have been unable to access the site in eastern Ukraine.

Some say gaining control of the crash site around Grabove has become a point of honour for the Ukrainian government forces and the pro-Russian separatists fighting them, making visits to the area risky.

On 6 August the Dutch Prime Minister, Mark Rutte, announced that the Dutch forensic investigators and their sniffer dogs were pulling out until the situation calmed down.

More than 220 coffins have been returned to the Netherlands with an unknown number of passengers inside. They don't know how many bodies are still missing, and not all of the remains have been recovered.

What caused the crash?

A team of 25 air crash investigators is trying to establish what destroyed the plane.

Experts from Ukraine, Russia, Germany, the UK, Australia, Malaysia and the United States are working at the rather nondescript Dutch Safety Board headquarters in The Hague.

Normally with any aviation investigation they would start at the crash site, but counter-terrorism experts feared the presence of aviation investigators might jeopardise the forensic team's efforts to recover the bodies, so they have been forced to rely on alternative sources of evidence.

Wim van der Wegen from the Dutch Safety Board says they already have enough to prepare a preliminary report. "We are using the voice recorder, the black box flight data recorder, satellite images, information from air traffic control and photos taken by people who were able to visit crash site."

They expect to publish the preliminary report within two weeks. It will not attribute blame or liability.

From the moment the first remains were repatriated, the Dutch authorities have strived to restore the honour and dignity that was stolen from the families.

Bringing the perpetrators to justice would help to heal a wound that has cut deep into Dutch society.
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Post time 19-8-2014 01:28 PM | Show all posts

sedey nye...
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Post time 19-8-2014 01:38 PM | Show all posts
pittjie posted on 18-8-2014 02:33 PM
iols tengok kat awani online kat pc je. harap2 line internet ok jah hari tu. iols tak de bersedara ...

Uols bleh gak tgk kt pc....iols dlm lab nk ngadap apa, siap ada training utk instrument lg... Agak2 mlm tu ada ulangan x?tgk yg ulangan je la nmpk gaya nya
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Post time 19-8-2014 02:09 PM | Show all posts
aechae posted on 19-8-2014 01:38 PM
Uols bleh gak tgk kt pc....iols dlm lab nk ngadap apa, siap ada training utk instrument lg... Agak ...

ambik la cuti uols. iols ni kalau cuti banyak lagi ... mmg mcm nak ambik cuti je.

hari ni baca balik thread ni .. tengok gambar2 raptai .. baca about the family dan kisah2 mangsa sebelum tragedi .. nangis balik dah ni. i feel you all the victims' families.

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 Author| Post time 19-8-2014 02:23 PM | Show all posts
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Published: Tuesday August 19, 2014 MYT 2:02:00 PM
Updated: Tuesday August 19, 2014 MYT 2:04:35 PM
MH17: More than 16 remains to arrive in KLIA on Friday
by farik zolkepli


KUALA LUMPUR: More than 16 bodies are expected to be arriving at Kuala Lumpur International Airport on Friday as authorities have identified 28 Malaysians involved MH17 crash to date.

Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein said the final number would be confirmed on Wednesday when the coordinating committee meets.

"We can finalised the proceedings for the National Day of Mourning and determine the time for the moment silence once we confirmed how many remains will return on Friday," he told a press conference following a media briefing on Tuesday.

Last week, Deputy Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin announced Friday as the National Day for Mourning.
The remains of 15 Malaysians and a Dutch will be brought back on Friday from Amsterdam.
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 Author| Post time 19-8-2014 03:16 PM | Show all posts
DALAM NEGERI
MH17: Jenazah 28 warga Malaysia dikenal pasti - Hishammuddin


KUALA LUMPUR 19 Ogos - Dua puluh lapan daripada 43 mangsa nahas pesawat Malaysia Airlines (MAS) Penerbangan MH17 warga Malaysia telah dikenal pasti setakat hari ini, kata Menteri Pertahanan, Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein.

Beliau berkata, daripada jumlah itu, 15 merupakan penumpang manakala 13 yang lain adalah anak kapal.

Jumlah 28 jenazah ini melibatkan 14 orang Islam dan 14 lagi bukan Islam, katanya kepada pemberita selepas majlis taklimat kepada editor kanan media berhubung persiapan istiadat penghormatan jenazah tragedi MH17 di Kementerian Pertahanan di sini.

"Untuk Jumaat ini, saya boleh sahkan jenazah yang terlibat adalah 15 (warga Malaysia) campur satu (warga Netherlands) akan dibawa pulang (ke Malaysia). Tetapi ada kemungkinan bertambah dan ini akan dapat disahkan esok," katanya. - BERNAMA
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Post time 19-8-2014 04:36 PM | Show all posts
fifie_olin posted on 19-8-2014 10:14 AM
mcm mn la keadaan mayat ye...dh lama sgt dh
ape hukum ek melewat2 kan pengebumian

bukan sengaja melewatkan...ade sebab...ini bukan kerja mudah
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