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[Dunia]
Supernatural 'Jinn' Seen as Cause of Mental Illness Among Muslims
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mbhcsf posted on 21-8-2014 10:03 AM 
The question is, where is the dividing line ...normal or abnormal...
Jin kr pemujaan ke bukan khu ...
Situasi sama definasi berbeza.
Kalau some call it psychosis or schizo
Some call it kesurupan etc
Tak begitu?
Care to share with the forumers?Boleh kami faham sikit 
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mbhcsf posted on 21-8-2014 06:04 PM
Ni sure tak pi waitrose shopping ni...so jin u naik 'syeikh' haha
i gi Co-op aje, better...Wetros dah boring...
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pyropura posted on 21-8-2014 10:08 AM
i gi Co-op aje, better...Wetros dah boring...
hang jin wahabbi ka pyro wasatiyah |
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GhostWalking posted on 21-8-2014 06:06 PM
Situasi sama definasi berbeza.
Kalau some call it psychosis or schizo
Some call it kesurupan et ...
Delusion tu strongly held believe by the patient , about himself on something, that everyone else failed to convince him otherwise WHICH IS OUT OF KEEPING , inconsistent with one's culture or religious belief
Like seseorang mudlim yg mengaku dia tu rasul..mati mati dia percaya mendengar suara as if terima wahyu...
So...this one a trained psychiatry yg muslim akan tahu laa...but he would then go further examining the content of delusion...
Ni jenis jenis delusion ni banyakkkkkk...adehh i lupa dah weii...
Kena buka buku psychiatry at a glace kot hahaha....no way..iam on holiday.
Halusinasi pulak...a patient tu hear, see, feel, see things without the prsence of the actual stimulus or stimuli..ni kira apa panca indera dia picked up laa yg org sekelilng dia x pun nampak the physical presence of the mentioned stimuli |
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pyropura posted on 21-8-2014 06:08 PM
i gi Co-op aje, better...Wetros dah boring...
Hehe...Ohh boycotting ke...u know kat edgware road hari tu, kat cermin waitrose..i perhati ade stickers...boycott the israel bagai kecik kecik je stickers tu...haha
U tampal ke...huhuhu |
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pyropura posted on 21-8-2014 06:08 PM
i gi Co-op aje, better...Wetros dah boring...
Hehe depress with Amal Alamuddin hmm? |
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Post time 21-8-2014 06:27 PM
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mbhcsf posted on 21-8-2014 10:15 AM
Delusion tu strongly held believe by the patient , about himself on something, that everyone els ...
And as u said how do we differentiate that?ada kes yang obvious its delusion.ada kes yang seolahnya benda tu betul.
Schizo is another thing since it was being brought up by a friend.How do we know that its really a jin or its just delusion,bipolar or schizo.
Payah bebenau.complex. |
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mbhcsf posted on 21-8-2014 06:18 PM
Hehe...Ohh boycotting ke...u know kat edgware road hari tu, kat cermin waitrose..i perhati ade sti ...
change of taste aje, wa tak main boikot2 nih... next try Aldi plak...
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mbhcsf posted on 21-8-2014 06:00 PM
Well kena faham basic psychiatric concept dulu
Apa itu psychosis?
delusion??susah nk ckp..kalau ikut quantum pon dunia ni semua base on otak..pure illusion..sesimple as warna..contoh..warna yg setiap org nmpk pon berbeza..biru aku..mgkin hijau bagi dia..sbb tu org gila hidup dorang indah je..byk scientist kata hidup ni tak wujud pon..tak real..sbb tu ksakitan dkt dunia tak tercompare dgn ksakitan sbenar(neraka)..
quantum physic buktikn yg akhirat tu wujud..yg after kita mati kita wujud dlm bentuk wave(roh)..bbalik pd topic..quantum pon buktikn yg particle boleh berubah jd wave and vice verse..mcm tok bomoh pgl..ilmu roh msuk alam lain..sama gk jin pon boleh guna konsep yg sama..dorang particle dkt alam dorang..bila dtg sini as wave je??guna konsep yg sama..
in future..who knows..perubatan boleh maju..mcm dlm cerita alien..5 saat je badan heal sbb dorang treat from really fundamental state..
sama mcm warna..tiap org nmpk bbeza..sama gk dgn org yg ada klebihan nmpk benda ghaib..sbb wavelength dia mgkin lagi broad range dia bnding average ppl..after all..even wavelength setiap org dlm 1 kelompok yg sama..tp value still differ..
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GhostWalking posted on 21-8-2014 06:27 PM
And as u said how do we differentiate that?ada kes yang obvious its delusion.ada kes yang seolahny ...
By examining the type, the content of hallucination or delusion.
Ni kene buke text book ...
Bila semua ni dah di examine then ...nak kata jin ke ape ke then terserah yg penting in schizophrenia ni family members pun kena managed dan kena faham dan ini sangat mencabar especially dlm konteks masyarakat msia yg hmm...ditambah pulak dengan kekangan komunikasi pesakit family dan pihak perubatan so ...nak capai optimal care dlm kes kes beginimmg mencabar i should think....
Yg kita dik dengaq semelih ahli keluarga, serang dgn parang tu...i wonder u know yg dikatakan ada masalsh mental ni dah dipetiksa ke, ubat tu fully complied ke etc... |
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tinker_bell posted on 21-8-2014 06:40 PM
delusion??susah nk ckp..kalau ikut quantum pon dunia ni semua base on otak..pure illusion..sesimpl ...
Fine...but then where is the dividing line between what's norm and what not...
Kalau quantum mechanics boleh...jelaskan that 's good
How would this then u know i terfikir merungkai persoalan pengaruh culture dlm psychiatry...maksudnya the thought content of certain delusional entity?
Tu lah dlm pendidikan sains ni ...i like the approach of tauhidik science yg melihat seuatu integrate. |
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pyropura posted on 21-8-2014 06:39 PM
change of taste aje, wa tak main boikot2 nih...next try Aldi plak...
Awat tak pi tesco or sainsbury...set set you laa tu..boycott ,eh? |
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mbhcsf posted on 21-8-2014 07:00 PM
Awat tak pi tesco or sainsbury...set set you laa tu..boycott ,eh?
dah boring juga...
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pyropura posted on 21-8-2014 07:02 PM
dah boring juga...
Spar kat bayswater? |
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GhostWalking posted on 21-8-2014 06:27 PM
And as u said how do we differentiate that?ada kes yang obvious its delusion.ada kes yang seolahny ...
susah nk ckp..kalau ikut quantum physic..reality semua org bbeza..what real for you wont be real for me..vice verse..because everone brain is different..and every brain will recieve data depends on stimuli and analyze depends on the capability of the brain..theres ppl live in logical world..and some ppl live in illogical world..pernah dengar org yg sakit kronik tiba2 sembuh tanpa any medication??most of them i believe they have great mind..like out of logic..but somehow they can heal sndri without proper medication..but itu reality dorang..so i believe world is how we perceive..not everyone has the same exact world..reality 100% depends on our own perception..tak ada org yg ada reality yg sama..
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CariMalay posted on 21-8-2014 05:37 PM
Mari kita buktikan pada mereka bahawa jin bukanlah halusinasi akibat sakit mental, tetapi ia benar2 ...
jgn lupa hantar jin peliharaan kau ke israel. santau yahudi sampai hilang di bumi ini. boleh?
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