WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) THE PROPHET OF ISLAM

Originally posted by SilentKiller at 28-8-2006 07:30 PM


Good explanation  

by wikipedia

Majority of the Jews or only a minor few?

U tell me the majority and the minority.

After initial resistance and skepticism by his people, Moses was accepted by his people as a prophet and a leader in his lifetime, notwithstanding certain lapses (such as the worship of the golden calf). After initial resistance, Muhammad was enthusiastically accepted as a prophet and a leader in his lifetime. Until the end, however, and with the exceptions of a few followers, Jesus was rejected by his people (the Israelites).

i'll leave that for you to answer because it was directed to you.

The jews rejected Jesus because in the eyes of Jews, Jesus failed in terms of "destroying the enemies" which is the Romans who were occupying part of the Israel lands and start a new kingdom. In Matthew 21:9, Jesus was treated like a King when the Jews heard of his miracle. And they treated him like a King even when he rode into the towns of Jerusalem on a donkey. And they said praises unto him.

And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest. Matthew 21:9

but when he allows himself to be arrested, tried and crucified on the cross for the sake of the prophecy, the Jews though that he gave up thus they lose their faith in Him.

It's the same in Moses' case. If the slaves do not have faith in Moses for leading them out of the slavery and bondages of Egypt, then they would remain in Egypt to be a slave. If they believe in Moses then they're free. Just like Jesus. The christians believe in them, so they are free from the slavery of sins.

[ Last edited by  weedkiller at 28-8-2006 07:52 PM ]

but when he allows himself to be arrested, tried and crucified on the cross for the sake of the prophecy, the Jews though that he gave up thus they lose their faith in Him.

The sentence in red confirms that the jews rejected him

It's the same in Moses' case. If the slaves do not have faith in Moses for leading them out of the slavery and bondages of Egypt, then they would remain in Egypt to be a slave. If they believe in Moses then they're free. Just like Jesus. The christians believe in them, so they are free from the slavery of sins.

Are you saying that the Jews rejected jesus so that they will be free of their sins ?

wow, not only you can't read simple english, you've got problems with simple common sense as well.

The jews thought that jesus was here to get rid of the Romans and establish and kingdom at Israel. but when Jesus surrendered himself to be persecuted and crucified, they gave up hope in him. they failed to understand that Jesus was here to save mankind of their sins and will soon return in the future to fight evil and redeem mankind.

wow, not only you can't read simple english, you've got problems with simple common sense as well.

The jews thought that jesus was here to get rid of the Romans and establish and kingdom at Israel. but when Jesus surrendered himself to be persecuted and crucified, they gave up hope in him. they failed to understand that Jesus was here to save mankind of their sins and will soon return in the future to fight evil and redeem mankind.

Well, ur reply didnt prove Jesus was accepted by his own people. Weedkiller, in first place i have already told u Jesus couldnt be compared with Moses coz Jesus is considered GOD. Whats ur comment about that in first place ?

The point is that Christians believe that Jesus would return somewhere in the near future in the prophecy of the new testament. If you believe in him now then you will be free of sins and defeat evil.

Why not like Moses. What's the most important thing about being a prophet? Bringing the word of God. that's what exactly Jesus did as well. But he went one step ahead. he died for the sins of mankind just like it was mentioned in the prophecy.

Originally posted by weedkiller at 28-8-2006 08:30 PM
The point is that Christians believe that Jesus would return somewhere in the near future in the prophecy of the new testament. If you believe in him now then you will be free of sins and defeat ev ...

But he went one step ahead

Well, its a big difference between GOD and Prophet. A prophet is not same like GOD.

Jesus was on earth as a human, not as God. He was tempted like a normal man, suffered like a normal man and died like a normal man. but he was raised to heaven 3 days later. but before he died he lived like a man, preaching the word of god, performing miracles and healing the sick.

Jesus was on earth as a human, not as God. He was tempted like a normal man, suffered like a normal man and died like a normal man. but he was raised to heaven 3 days later. but before he died he lived like a man, preaching the word of god, performing miracles and healing the sick.

You are denying the obvious. Jesus is considered GOD. But Moses is not considered as GOD, did he ?

Jesus was on earth as a human, not as God. He was tempted like a normal man, suffered like a normal man and died like a normal man. but he was raised to heaven 3 days later. but before he died he lived like a man, preaching the word of god, performing miracles and healing the sick.

Jesus was killed, not died through natural causes like Moses.

Originally posted by SilentKiller at 29-8-2006 12:33 PM


You are denying the obvious. Jesus is considered GOD. But Moses is not considered as GOD, did he ?

i'm not denying the obvious. ask any Christian. he came to earth as a humble mortal man. he was subjected to temptation just like any other mortal men.

Jesus was killed, not died through natural causes like Moses.

but they both suceeded in what they're suppose to accomplish didn't they? Moses succesfully led the Israelites out from Egypt and onto the land of Moab. While Jesus died to fulfill the prophecy and led people away from sin if they believe in Him.

i'm not denying the obvious. ask any Christian. he came to earth as a humble mortal man. he was subjected to temptation just like any other mortal men.

Christians says Jesus is GOD. :hmm:

but they both suceeded in what they're suppose to accomplish didn't they? Moses succesfully led the Israelites out from Egypt and onto the land of Moab. While Jesus died to fulfill the prophecy and led people away from sin if they believe in Him.

Both are totally different. What Moses did actually happened. What Jesus did to led people away from sin is just a Christian believe only.

Originally posted by SilentKiller at 29-8-2006 02:55 PM


Christians says Jesus is GOD. :hmm:

Yes he is, i've never denied that. He was a god, came down to earth as a mortal man do die for the sins of man. and then raised up as god again. read the verse below.

"For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." 1 Timothy 2:5

Both are totally different. What Moses did actually happened. What Jesus did to led people away from sin is just a Christian believe only.

any proof to back up your claim? jesus dying for our sins have already been prophecised in the old testament

But he was wounded and crushed for our sins. He was beaten that we might have peace. He was whipped, and we were healed! Isaiah 53:5

any proof to back up your claim? jesus dying for our sins have already been prophecised in the old testament

Im not questioning about what happened, what im saying is what Moses did actually happened, but what Jesus did led people away from sin is just a Christian believe only. Its just a matter of believing whereas Moses did actually led his people out of slavery. Did u get my point ?

Yes he is, i've never denied that. He was a god, came down to earth as a mortal man do die for the sins of man. and then raised up as god again. read the verse below.

He was God but Moses is not. Its what im saying, they are different.

Originally posted by SilentKiller at 29-8-2006 04:05 PM


He was God but Moses is not. Its what im saying, they are different.

the question is that, is Jesus a God when he was on earth? yes or no? simple as that

Originally posted by weedkiller at 29-8-2006 04:12 PM

the question is that, is Jesus a God when he was on earth? yes or no? simple as that

Tell me when it was Jesus considered as God ?