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Sejarah Yahudi

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Post time 24-3-2007 03:36 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by rurouni_khairul at 23-3-2007 06:37 PM
So, skrg dah nampak kan? Pekara yang sama juga disuarakan oleh YahudiOrtodoks sendiri yang menafikan berlakunya Holocaust dalamsejarah...hanya Zionists sejati saja akan mempertahankan Holocaust ...



sekarang Kerajaan Iran Dan Kumpulan Yahudi yang menentang Zionist tengah  berkempen diseluruh dunia pasal kejadian Holocaust  direka seperti mana kejadian 9/11
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Post time 24-3-2007 09:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by tinangol_csm at 24-3-2007 02:28 PM
kan jew tu nama bangsa dia ...agama apa pun,  dia tetap jew. takkan berubah.

aku tau...tapi perkataan jew/yahudi tu digunakan gak utk refer agama derang kan.
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Post time 26-3-2007 11:19 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sayangidaku at 23-3-2007 02:23 AM
aku just curious... zaman skang ni ada tak yahudi yang beragama Islam? kalo ada, baper agaknya jumlahnya. sbb zaman Nabi dlu, mmg aku tau ada yahudi yg beragama Islam. cuma zaman skang ni mcm tak ...


apa yg kita tau...seorg yg di lahirkan oleh jewish parent or either by jewish father or mother consider as jewish too...rasanya apa yg kita tau laa about to become jew people...ada gak jews yg convert to christian and islam dan ada gelaran khas utk jews ni...
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Post time 26-3-2007 11:37 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sayangidaku at 24-3-2007 09:55 PM

aku tau...tapi perkataan jew/yahudi tu digunakan gak utk refer agama derang kan.


Tak semestinya...seorang yahudi akan kekal sebagai bangsa Yahudi jika ayah die seorang Yahudi walaupun mak die gentile (bukan Yahudi) so, tak kire ape agama mereka, identiti bangsa Yahudi tuh akan sentiase dibawa dari nasab belah lelaki (sama cam kita la di mana nasab keturunan dikire dari belah ayah, bukan mak..)

Soal Yahudi Islam nie aku rase ramai...takkan ko tak pernah tau? Salah seorang yang betul2 seperti ikon pada golongan yahudi beragama Islam ini ialah Meryam Jemillah.

Nak tau lebih lanjut, Google ajer Jews for Allah or Jews for Islam.
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Post time 26-3-2007 01:23 PM | Show all posts

Reply #317 rurouni_khairul's post

ok, thanx.
aku tak tau, sebab tu aku tanya kat sini.
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Post time 26-3-2007 01:28 PM | Show all posts

Reply #318 sayangidaku's post

Ai ai captain jack sparrow...aku cukup nyampah dengan karekter nie..nasib baik aku mmg minat Johny Depp...
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Post time 27-3-2007 12:11 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by thamrong at 23-3-2007 08:03 PM


Itu andian sahaja. Mana tembok boleh runtuh weh! Munkin padri dia pakai JCB excavators...pinjam dari kontraktor bumiputra klas F.


Saya berpandukan analisis ini.........

Ttg tembuk Jericho....

"The Jericho Fortress was around ten miles square. The area between the desert and the Jericho fortress was well-fortified with all kinds of defense equipment. The fortress was built of granite stones, with many archery holes and hot water tanks and fire hoses to throw fiery brimstone on the invaders. It looked invincible, impregnable, and unconquerable."

Ttg strategi deme...

"After hearing God抯 command, General Joshua called his people and commanded them to advance and fight and destroy them all. General Joshua called the priests and said to them, 揟ake up the ark of the covenant of the Lord and have seven priests carry trumpets in front of it.
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Post time 27-3-2007 01:11 AM | Show all posts

Reply #320 hamizao's post

Munkin satu mitos kerana sejarah Yahudi pada waktu itu maseh lagi bercorak lisan sahaja.
Joshua menunggu seminggu hingga semua lelaki sembuh dari luka berkhatan ( yang di arah oleh tuhan) sebelum memulaka tindakan menyerang Jericho.
Mengikut yang saya faham dari tradisi Yahudi, ia bermula degan kota Jericho di kepong. Selama 6 hari, 40 ribu Yahudi berarak mengelillingi timbuk kota Jericho dengan di pimpin oleh 7 imam yang meniup trumpet dan di ikuti oleh 'the Ark'. Di hari ke7 mereka mengelilingi 7 kali dan di saat akhir Joshua berkata " Triak semua! kerana hari ini Tuhan akan kurniakan kota ini bagi mu." Kota ini dan semua isi kandungan, emas dan perak, adalah kurnia bagi Tuhan kita. Maka semua trumpet di tiup dan semua umat Yahudi berteriak saperti di arahkan hingga gemuruh yang kuat itu dapat meruntuhkan tembok Jericho. Yahudi memyerbu kedalam kota dan membunuh semua penghuni termasuk lelaki, perempuan, yang muda dan tua, semua binatang lembu, kambing dan keledai. Insan yang terselamat cuma pelacur yang membantu perisik Yahudi, ibubapa dan adik-adik nya sahaja.
Ini versi kedua aje
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Post time 27-3-2007 11:19 PM | Show all posts

Reply #321 thamrong's post

Ada pelajaran dari cerita ini...................bila nak buat sesuatu terutamanya berperang, mesti ada persiapan, bersatu dan ingat tuhan. Hanya satu yang Hami kurang faham..............bila berperang ....semuanya dibunuh. Apakah dia ttg orang2 Jericho ini sehingga semuanya dibunuh? Adakah ini caranya mereka merampas tempat orang?? Mungkinkah semua orang2 Canaan dihapuskan sebelum mendirikan Kingdom of Israel?
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Post time 28-3-2007 12:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hamizao at 27-3-2007 05:19 AM
Ada pelajaran dari cerita ini...................bila nak buat sesuatu terutamanya berperang, mesti ada persiapan, bersatu dan ingat tuhan. Hanya satu yang Hami kurang faham..............bila berp ...


mungkin ada yg terselamat kot...dan ada yg kita dgr warga palestine yg ada skrg bukan dari kaun canaan tapi berasal dari satu puak lain yg berhijrah ke situ...

**The question of late Arab immigration to Palestine.
Whether there was significant Arab immigration into Palestine after the beginning of Jewish settlement there in the late 19th century has been a matter of some controversy.
Demographer Uziel Schmelz, in his analysis of Ottoman registration data for 1905 populations of Jerusalem and Hebron kazas, found that most Ottoman citizens living in these areas, comprising about one quarter of the population of Palestine, were living at the place where they were born. Specifically, of Muslims, 93.1% were born in their current locality of residence, 5.2% were born elsewhere in Palestine, and 1.6% were born outside Palestine. Of Christians, 93.4% were born in their current locality, 3.0% were born elsewhere in Palestine, and 3.6% were born outside Palestine. Of Jews (excluding the large fraction who were not Ottoman citizens), 59.0% were born in their current locality, 1.9% were born elsewhere in Palestine, and 39.0% were born outside Palestine.[61]
American economist Gottheil argues that there likely was significant Arab immigration:

There is every reason to believe that consequential immigration of Arabs into and within Palestine occurred during the Ottoman and British mandatory periods. Among the most compelling arguments in support of such immigration is the universally acknowledged and practiced linkage between regional economic disparities and migratory impulses. The precise magnitude of Arab immigration into and within Palestine is, as Bachi noted, unknown. Lack of completeness in Ottoman registration lists and British Mandatory censuses, and the immeasurable illegal, unreported, and undetected immigration during both periods make any estimate a bold venture into creative analysis. In most cases, those venturing into the realm of Palestinian demography梠r other demographic analyses based on very crude data梐cknowledge its limitations and the tentativeness of the conclusions that may be drawn.[62]

:hmm: tapi Yahudi mesti menafikan wujudnya bangsa lain yg pernah menduduki Palestine sebagaimana puak Yahudi yg kononnya mendakwa holy land tu milik mereka...

**sumber dari wikipedia.

[ Last edited by  narvmarishka at 27-3-2007 06:10 PM ]
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Post time 29-3-2007 06:02 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sayangidaku at 23-3-2007 07:23 PM
aku just curious... zaman skang ni ada tak yahudi yang beragama Islam? kalo ada, baper agaknya jumlahnya. sbb zaman Nabi dlu, mmg aku tau ada yahudi yg beragama Islam. cuma zaman skang ni mcm tak ...

Ada   gak   tokoh islam  di  kalangan  org  Yahudi   contoh  seperti  muhammad Asad  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Asad

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Post time 30-3-2007 03:09 PM | Show all posts
Jemima .....ex Mrs Imran Khan is another but perhaps may have returned to Judaism??. Overall, not many and they are freely allowed to return to Judaism without reconversion........a historical need really ................noting that many conversions were forced conversions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima_Goldsmith

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Post time 6-4-2007 11:20 AM | Show all posts
[quote]Look at verse 20. 揥hen the trumpets sounded, the people shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the people gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so every man charged straight in, and they took the city.
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Post time 6-4-2007 11:39 AM | Show all posts

Reply #324 mahathirGX's post

Muka Muhammad Asad nie ganaz betul laa...seram aku...
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Post time 6-4-2007 03:15 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by hamizao at 30-3-2007 03:09 PM
Jemima .....ex Mrs Imran Khan is another but perhaps may have returned to Judaism??. Overall, not many and they are freely allowed to return to Judaism without reconversion........a historical ne ...


dia ni convert ke masa nikah ngan imran dulu..bukan apa ada yg tak convert pun nikah sebab kalau sebelah2 sana lelaki muslim boleh kawin ngan 'ahli kitab' , aku penah jumpa sorang kat surau masa semayang terawih isterinya katolik tunggu suaminya semayang terawih
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Post time 6-4-2007 03:16 PM | Show all posts

Reply #327 rurouni_khairul's post

namanya asad kan..kene ler gerun, kalu tak menggerunkan tu bukan ciri2 singa
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Post time 6-4-2007 03:18 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mantan at 6-4-2007 03:15 PM


dia ni convert ke masa nikah ngan imran dulu..bukan apa ada yg tak convert pun nikah sebab kalau sebelah2 sana lelaki muslim boleh kawin ngan 'ahli kitab' , aku penah jumpa sorang kat surau ...


Tengok mazhab die jugak la kot...
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Post time 6-4-2007 11:20 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mantan at 6-4-2007 03:15 PM


dia ni convert ke masa nikah ngan imran dulu..bukan apa ada yg tak convert pun nikah sebab kalau sebelah2 sana lelaki muslim boleh kawin ngan 'ahli kitab' , aku penah jumpa sorang kat surau ...


Kalau gitu, agaknya apabila suami yang Islam meninggal isteri dia ada masaalah tak ttg harta pusaka nanti? Sori mod klu ff:
sikit............saje teriingat.
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Post time 22-7-2007 11:34 AM | Show all posts
Bangsa Yahudi kian pupus
Oleh Nurul Adlina Kamaludin


Kurang anak, kahwin campur punca rakyat berkurangan: Kajian


KETIKA dunia terus menyaksikan sandiwara Israel yang tidak berkesudahan bagi menjejaskan proses damai di bumi Palestin, ada satu lagi isu yang memeningkan Perdana Menteri Ehud Olmert dan pemimpin kumpulan pelobi utama Yahudi di negara lain.

Ia tiada kaitan dengan nasib penduduk Palestin yang terus dianiayai atau taktik terbaru memperkotak katikkan pemimpin tertentu Palestin dan Arab yang terus menjadi buah catur permainan licik rejim Zionis.

Sebaliknya, ia menyentuh isu lebih penting iaitu kelangsungan bangsa Yahudi, kewujudan Israel sebagai negara mutlak penganut Yahudi dan persepsi bangsa itu di mata dunia.

Masalah itu ibarat barah yang melenyapkan kelangsungan bangsa yang biarpun nampak hebat, tetapi goyah dari segi bilangan penduduknya. Biarpun kelihatan kuat, hakikatnya, Israel terpaksa bergantung harap kepada simpati dunia menerusi peristiwa Holocaust dan bantuan Amerika Syarikat.

Kemelut utamanya adalah masalah kurangnya zuriat bagi meneruskan keturunan Yahudi ini, seperti dipaparkan kajian kumpulan pelobi utama Yahudi, The Jewish Agency menerusi Institut Perancangan Dasar dan Penduduk Yahudi yang diketuai tokoh akademik, Profesor Yechezkel Dror.

Kajian institut berpejabat di Baitulmaqdis yang menyentuh keadaan semasa dan masa depan Yahudi, antara lain mendedahkan bilangan penduduk Yahudi di seluruh dunia kini susut 25 peratus sejak 1970. Ia disebabkan kadar kelahiran rakyatnya yang rendah dan peningkatan perkahwinan campur, di dalam dan luar Israel. Statistik 2006 menunjukkan penduduk Yahudi mencecah 13 juta.

Pada 1939, ada 17 juta penduduk Yahudi di dunia dan ia makin berkurangan sejak 40 tahun lalu. Jika keadaan berterusan, masyarakat Yahudi mungkin terus berkurangan atau semakin 憄upus
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Post time 22-7-2007 02:24 PM | Show all posts
bila YAHUDI neh nak "settel" ek..?
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