ACCOUNTANCY

jinakji

Originally posted by fifthyfour at 25-10-2004 10:49 PM:

rasanya klo local..rasanya UiTM la the best..:bodek::pompom:

Uitm aku tak tau ler.. sbb aku x UUM...bagi aku UUM senang pas.. takat 3 pointer dlm tgn ler kau ko rajin.. masa aku ler...skrg tak tau ler

livingstone

diploma in accountancy..(D.I.A)...
uitm lah..power...go go power rangers....

penglipur

Originally posted by fifthyfour at 25-10-2004 10:49 PM:



:bg yg tak suka menghafal..bila part6 tu..pening la sket..
sbb kebanyakan ppr adalah theory..FAR/C (account), Audit, Investment.etc..
part3 & part5 lak kena blajar law..

ler... susah jugak tuh..
igt kn takder la menghafal nih...
susah tak masa part 3&5 tu..

yowa2

ler... susah jugak tuh..
igt kn takder la menghafal nih...
susah tak masa part 3&5 tu..

sbenarnye.... mengingat, bukan menghafal.

blaja kena faham, bukan hafaaaal jer. dah masuk U, bear in mind, pelajaran nie, akan di praktikkan dlm kerjaya. semuanya ada reality.
takdenyer dia tanya isipadu bumi, yg kalo ko tau pon, ko buleh buat apa! tak gitu?! hehehe. mcm tue le.

mcm 54 ckp,theory account(part 6), audit, investment (maybe finance), law.... takde lar susah sangat pon.
teori account tu... lemah gak ler. maklum ler, nk buat hape kita tau pedagogy le, monk yg cipta double entry,... so what. tu lar, susah nk imagine.
audit, ok. just phm konsep- menghasilkan report, pandangan yg adil dan saksama tentang akaun sesuatu sykt.
investment... ada hafal sangat ke? mende ni teknikal aku rasa. letih aku kira mende2 ni. (mmbr aku yg extend paper ni tanya, sape cipta subjek ni- dia nk bunuh! :lol)
law... for sure u should know. diploma level kat UiTM ada 2 sem amik law- law contract (basic nih), and corporate law. bachelor ada lg 1 law- corporate gak. detail lagiks.

p/s: sure ko buleh hadapi... kan org lain buleh...Mesia buleh!

fifthyfour

Originally posted by yowa2 at 28-10-2004 08:11 PM:
sbenarnye.... mengingat, bukan menghafal.

blaja kena faham, bukan hafaaaal jer. dah masuk U, bear in mind, pelajaran nie, akan di praktikkan dlm kerjaya. semuanya ada reality.
takdenyer dia tan ...

aah..yea 2..
tapi sronot gak blajar tu suma...
law and audit antara paper theory yg ff suka..
sbb  dapat blajar mende baru..:cool:
wpn time final rasa cam nak demam jerk..
tp xda la pressure n stress sgt...njoy la gak..
klo xda mood nak bajar..malam final pon masih lg mlepak tgk cite jpoon..:music::bodek:

fifthyfour

Originally posted by penglipur at 28-10-2004 06:14 PM:


ler... susah jugak tuh..
igt kn takder la menghafal nih...
susah tak masa part 3&5 tu..

part3 tue sem kliier kot..
ff nyer CGPA jatuh sbb result part3 la..
paper part3 - bel (english), cac(computerised accounting), law, costing, ipk(islamic accounting)...& cam biasa la ppr wajib a/c..
ppr part5 lak - a/c, financial management, law, tax, cac (ppr computer nieh,bajar cara2 nk wat website utk company kita sendirik:bodek...

ala..jgn risau la penglipur..bla dah start blajo nanti...suma tu akn jd sronok..
hee..yg tak sronoknya time quiz/test and final..:nerd:

fifthyfour

Originally posted by yowa2 at 26-10-2004 11:07 AM:
hehehe, ko dak UiTM kan. bias ler ko nie!

takpe, kata nk jadik taraf dunia. pasnie taraf planet lak! :lol

toll tu..

tu pasal la akhir sem baru2 ni suma lecturer & staff dok sibuk ngan ari quality..
yg besh nya student la sbb class cancel..:music:

fifthyfour

Originally posted by jinakji at 26-10-2004 04:48 PM:


Uitm aku tak tau ler.. sbb aku x UUM...bagi aku UUM senang pas.. takat 3 pointer dlm tgn ler kau ko rajin.. masa aku ler...skrg tak tau ler

bagi yang rajin la..
klo yg study last minutes cam ff nie..
blajar pon stakat nak maintain kan CG tok BAcc...off:

Rhyno

Rhyno pun ambik account jugak. Account is one of my favourite subjects. Ramai orang kata kalau student yang ambik account, elok masuk Matriks lepas SPM....betui ka?

fifthyfour

Originally posted by Rhyno at 29-10-2004 01:01 PM:
Rhyno pun ambik account jugak. Account is one of my favourite subjects. Ramai orang kata kalau student yang ambik account, elok masuk Matriks lepas SPM....betui ka?

rasanya lebey kurang jer kot klo masuk matrix or trus masuk diploma..(yea ka ah?? :stp::pray
klo rhyno masuk matrix..bila nak sambung study..trus masuk BAcc..
tp ada gak bebdk DIA yg dari matrix sbb pointer tak lepas ..so, masa yg diabiskn kt matrix tu sia2 giru jer la..:kant:
klo trus amek diploma..bila nak sambung BAcc..trus masuk 2nd year sbb ppr tuk degree yg 1st year tu lebey kurang ngan ppr masa diploma..

anyone tolong la si rhyno nie..sbb ff sendirik pon xtau sgt la..:bgrin:

fifthyfour

Originally posted by Rhyno at 29-10-2004 01:01 PM:
Rhyno pun ambik account jugak. Account is one of my favourite subjects. Ramai orang kata kalau student yang ambik account, elok masuk Matriks lepas SPM....betui ka?

err..1 more..
bila dah masuk diploma..apa yg kita blajo masa kat skolah dah tak sama..so,kat sana kita bermula dari bawah..
rasanya apa yg kita blajo kat skolah tuh diguna masa pra atau part1 ja kot..
ini member2 ff la yg cakap sbb ff xda basic a/c..
bila dah masuk part4 n part5 - kita akan blajar company a/c (masa ni blajo cara nak buat a/c yg akn dipublishkn pada public atau sharehldr..)
ppr a/c tuk part6 plak- theory..:kant:
tp bagus la klo suka a/c sbb ff xsuka a/c dari part1 sampai la ff grad..:geram: (hee..tapi masa buat degree still amek a/c- BAcc :stp
minat tuh bleh wat pembakar semangat tuk study..:bodek:

[ Last edited by fifthyfour on 29-10-2004 at 04:25 PM ]

Hana

Originally posted by jinakji at 2004-10-26 04:48 PM:


Uitm aku tak tau ler.. sbb aku x UUM...bagi aku UUM senang pas.. takat 3 pointer dlm tgn ler kau ko rajin.. masa aku ler...skrg tak tau ler

ehh..ko batch thn bila ek?
hana pun x UUM...pun dlm accouting gak..

Hana

ambik la course ACCA for profesional ..
ramai org cina ambik ACCA tau..

bila apply for job... company akan lebih kan org yg ambik ACCA... sbb tu..org cina byk jaga bhg akaun..

tapi, hana pun tak ambik..hahahahaha...malas la... baik buat MBA..lagi baguss...tapi, takder org sponsor pulak...ingat nak cari sugar daddy la..for sponsor..tapi, rupe takder mcm artis..mcm org nak pecah umah..manala sugar daddy nak berkenaan..

yowa2

apa yg aku phm bezanya ialah, matrix 2 thn, diploma 3 thn.
so. bygkan lar, for sure matrix belajar dgn full speed, full pressure! hehehe. ituer mmbr matrix aku ckp.
diploma lebih relax, xtumpu sangat dengan study jer, bley mcm2 aktiviti kita join. pendek kata, baik amik diploma ler. nnt ko ada Diploma! :lol bleh konvo! kakaka

oooh, Hana & Jinakji xUUM ek?! masa aku pt6 diploma UiTM (2003), aku ada join trip gi UUM, mmg best aktiviti korang buat. kat hutan simpan blakang, tue... pastu kitorg bertanding lakonan, show abis! baiknyer persatuan korang (Novac kalu xsilap)- belikan hadiah hamper ntk semua team. korang best ler.
p/s: dulu ada budak Novac rakam guna vcam...  ieee, nk tengok ler.

Hana

Originally posted by yowa2 at 2004-11-7 04:35 PM:
apa yg aku phm bezanya ialah, matrix 2 thn, diploma 3 thn.
so. bygkan lar, for sure matrix belajar dgn full speed, full pressure! hehehe. ituer mmbr matrix aku ckp.
diploma lebih relax, xtumpu sa ...

hana yg dok UUM pun..tak penah masuk hutan tu..
hana mmg masuk NOVAC tu..wajib masuk... tapi, tak buat ape ape pun...jadi ahli lelap je..
yowa2 gi UUM tu...hana dah grad la... contact jer org novac..diaorg ok..tak makan org..dioarg makan nasi..hehehee

yowa2

amboi... kira "mkn org" je ke yg ganaz?
lipan, kala jengking, ular tedung... tak makan orang gak. tp bahaya! hehehe.
aiya, caner nk kontek diorg... (alasan)
padahal ada mmbr kat sanun- tgh buat Foreign Affairs. hehehe.

butterfly86

Originally posted by fifthyfour at 28-10-2004 08:50 PM



part3 tue sem kliier kot..
ff nyer CGPA jatuh sbb result part3 la..
paper part3 - bel (english), cac(computerised accounting), law, costing, ipk(islamic accounting)...& cam biasa l ...

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figo

oooo..
(hehe saje sibuk..)

adoi

Originally posted by yowa2 at 20-10-2004 09:43 AM
Auditor... ni org luar, ko akan cek/periksa akaun sykt lain, pastikan ianya betul, xde tipu2, kalu ada, repot! yg ni, ko bukan buat akaun jugak, tp kena pastikan akaun diorg buat dengan betul. kena kira balik (kalu perlu), nk pastikan mende tu sume benar. paham2 ler. real life... byk tipu!!! hahaha. and auditor pon, join tipu skali. tupasal org kata akauntan/auditor sama2 jahat. hhehehe.

ehh.. tak semestinye auditor ni org luar.. ade 2 jenis auditor sebenarnye.. yg die explain kat atas ni sbnarnye external auditor.. klu keje jd external auditor ni maksudnye ko keje ngan audit firm.. kat msia,companies law mewajibkan penyata kewangan sume sykt2 yg ada limited liabity ("berhad" atau "sdn bhd") kena audit.. so, sykt2 ni sume akan upah audit firm utk audit akaun diorang.. audit firm ni pon antar laa pekerja2 diorang i.e external auditors utk buat audit penyata kewangan sykt tuh.. pastu bile da abis buat audit akaun sykt tuh, audit firm pon suuh diorang byr audit fees..slalunye org menyampah dgn auditors ni sbb klu akaun tuh salah, auditors mule la tanye soklan ngan suuh diorang btulkan balik.. pastu klu ade ape2 yg diorang x paam, msti nak tanye.. menyebok je memanjang, kaco org buat keje.. klu keje ni, u have to know the accounting standards bcos ur job requires u to comment on the financial statements n the accounting policies of the company..

satu lagi plak, internal auditor.. internal auditor ni slalunye keja dgn sykt (sbb tuh panggil internal) tp slalunye multinational companies je ade internal audit dept.. x sume sykt ade dept ni sbb ni bukan satu requirement by companies law.. keja internal auditor x same macam external auditor.. keja internal auditors ni biasenye ditetapkan oleh mgmt.. slalunye internal auditor tlg management achieve their objectives cthnye, cari weakness (or detect fraud) dlm syarikat, mcm mane sykt boleh kurangkan kos, camne nak make sure sykt gunekan resources dgn cara yg Effective, Economical n Efficient (3E),etc.. klu keje nih, ur job is to make sure that the controls of the company are sufficient in order to achieve the objectives of the company..

slalunye fresh grad keje sbg external auditor dlu sbb klu jd xternal auditor, u will be exposed to many industries.. lepas tuh, senang sket la nak pilih industry yg mane berkenan di hati.. slalunye org masuk audit line ni tak lame... stkt utk gain experience.. if u want to work as an external auditor, preferable klu keje dgn the big 4 audit firms i.e Ernst&Young, KPMG, PriceWaterhouseCoopers (PWC) n Deloitte..

adoi

yg paling tak syiok klu jd external auditors nih, mmg takde life laa.. sket2 dok ngadap laptop tuh jer.. keje byk giler.. it is not an uncommon view to see people staying back in the office late at night.. office tak tutup beb.. oleh sbb tuh, slalunye org tak tahan jd auditor lame2.. lepas 3-5 thn, diorang pon cabut pegi masuk mgmt lak.. i know sum1 yg umur die still 30+ dah dpt top position kat sykt terkemuka n earning big $$$$$... die ni x-auditor n mmg hardworking laa..

[ Last edited by adoi at 19-10-2005 06:35 PM ]