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Perihal dakwaan keris, Laksamana bentan dan sumpahan

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Post time 21-12-2006 01:21 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by arnabkiut at 19-12-2006 08:11 PM
bg aku..laksamana bentan bunuh sultan sebab rase diri dikhianati....dia penat2 gadai nyawa berperang..( aku lupe time tu perang gn sape)....balik2 bini dh kene bunuh sebab dang anum menginam nk mak ...


btoll..

aku setuju..

sultan dulu2 bengong skit...

ikut kata org... x siasat dlu...

sebab tuh jd g2...

kalo sultan2 dlu x dengar cakap pembesar negeri yg tamak kuasa melaka x kan jatuh macam skang neH..

:geram:
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Post time 22-12-2006 12:32 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by selendangmerah at 21-12-2006 13:21


btoll..

aku setuju..

sultan dulu2 bengong skit...

ikut kata org... x siasat dlu...

sebab tuh jd g2...

kalo sultan2 dlu x dengar cakap pembesar negeri yg tamak kuasa melaka x kan  ...

ituler pasal.....smpai sekarnag pembesarrrr2 negara sikap tk ubah2..tamak...haloba tetap adaa
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 Author| Post time 18-1-2007 11:45 AM | Show all posts
Spared from destruction
By TEH ENG HOCK

enghock@thestar.com.my


Is the Makam Sultan Mahmud Dijulang Mangkat protected from natural disasters by supernatural powers?  

MAKAM Sultan Mahmud Mangkat Dijulang sits proudly at the top of a little hillock in Kampung Makam, Kota Tinggi, looking smart with a new coat of paint and freshly laid tiles.  

Everything looked spick and span, and one would not have guessed that one of the worst floods in the country had just hit the state.  

There was a drastic contrast below, as floodwaters had engulfed the village, forcing almost 600 villagers to evacuate as water rose as high as their rooftops.  

As photographer Kamal Sellehuddin and I hiked uphill, we saw many of the villagers trying to salvage their possessions from their houses. But there was not much left to save
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 Author| Post time 18-1-2007 11:46 AM | Show all posts
Abrupt end for a cruel ruler

By ZIEMAN

KAMPUNG Makam (Tomb Village), which is 2km from Kota Tinggi town centre, got its name because of the presence of several tombs in the village. The most prominent is Makam Sultan Mahmud Mangkat DiJulang, the tomb of Sultan Mahmud Shah II, the 10th ruler of the Johor Sultanate who ruled from 1685 to Sept 3, 1699.

The tomb is housed in a beautiful mausoleum boasting rich architecture, together with the tombs of other members of royalty. They can be found in the compound of the antique-looking Masjid Sultanah Rogaiyah and huge burial ground.

The name Mangkat Dijulang was given in remembrance of the way he was killed (mangkat being the Malay word referring specifically to a royal death) while being carried (dijulang) means being lifted in a royal litter or dais.

Sultan Mahmud was one of the more tyrannical descendants of Sultan Malacca who killed the wife of Laksamana Megat Seri Rama for eating a piece of his jackfruit. The king was born in 1675 and was the last in line of a dynasty of the Sultanate of Johor descended from the Sultans of Malacca.

He was remembered for his cruelty, marking a shameful end to his dynasty.

The legend of Sultan Mahmud Mangkat Dijulang has inspired a stage play and a movie of the same title.  

The stage play of the same name was written in 1959, starring the late P. Ramlee. Two years later, a movie of the same title was made by K.M Basker with Nordin Ahmad, M.Amin and Maria Menado in the leading roles.

Just like the story written in the book, Tuhfat Al-Nafis in 1699, the movie depicts the reign of Sultan Mahmud Shah II who died at 24, when pirates were roaming the waters off southern Johor.

Laksamana Megat Seri Rama, also known as Laksamana Bentan (played convincingly by actor Nordin Ahmad), named after his homeland, Bentan Island, was ordered to stop the pirates. He left behind his beloved wife, Wan Anum (actress Maria Menado) who was heavily pregnant.  

Megat's absence made it easy for a former palace official, who was jealous of Megat, to plot against him. He manipulated the situation by using Wan Anum's condition.

Wan Anum craved for a piece of jackfruit from the palace orchard. She then saw the penghulu who was on his way to send the fruit to the Sultan. The penghulu took pity on her and stole a piece of jackfruit to give to Wan Anum.  

The Sultan, noticing that the fruit had been cut before he even tasted the fruit, became infuriated. The jealous palace official instigated the Sultan by saying that Wan Anum's action had brought shame as she had left only the remainder of the fruit for the Sultan to eat.

The Sultan decided to punish Wan Anum.  

In her defence, Wan Anum said she had craved for the jackfruit because of her child. The Sultan wanted proof and ordered that Wan Anum's belly be cut; inside they found the piece of nangka, clutched in the tiny fist of the unborn foetus.

The murder was kept a secret but Megat finally found out what happened and decided to seek revenge. As the Sultan was lifted on his litter (julang) by his men on his way for Friday prayers at the Kota Tinggi mosque, he was ambushed and stabbed to death by Megat
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Post time 18-1-2007 01:48 PM | Show all posts
Makam Laksmana Bentan n Makam Sultan Mahmud Mangkat Dijulang tu tak kena banjir ke? Bole sesapa bagi info tak?
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Post time 23-1-2007 01:03 AM | Show all posts
bagai mana pula ujudnya nama kampung kelantan di situ...adakah wan anum itu berasal dari sana....adakah laksamana bentan ini ialah sayyid demali alimuddin juga dikenali sebagai pateh kermawijaya majapahit....sila koreklah asal usul...banyak cerita tersimpan....yang pastinya sultan mahmud itu ialah seorang yang kurang warak dan terkenal dengan sikap bengisnya...
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Post time 23-1-2007 12:50 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by GRINDSAKHTANIC at 19-12-2006 08:27 PM
tapi aku salut kat laksamana bentan dan hang jebat...mereka berjuang demi keadilan....raja zalim raja disanggah!!! (huihh...ada bakat jadik pelakon teater nih..!!)



wa [pun salute pendekar2 acm meraka, ni, seprti kata org, sejarah ditulis oleh mereka yg menang...jadi dtak menyerlah sgt lah ke' hero 'an diorang nie......

diorang ni la melayu berani, bukan melayu yg sembah sultan @ pemerintah walopun diorang ni zalim.....
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Post time 23-1-2007 12:53 PM | Show all posts

Reply #26 Lloni's post

tapi dia mati dlm perjalanan ke masjid..............

he..he..he...

ingat kita semua akan mati.......
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Post time 25-1-2007 06:47 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by arung at 21-12-2006 12:01 AM
Assalaumalaikum,

IMHO, adalah amat memalukan untuk mendakwa keris itu adalah keris Laksamana Bantan. Tukang-tukang keris di Terengganu pasti akan ketawa berguling-guling melihatnya... Itu adal ...


wa buleh bersetuju ngan pendapat ini.  tapi kan, dah memang tabiat sebilangan besar orang melayu nie suka benda-benda gempaq nie.  sebab tu akhbar tabloid melayu atau majalah 'panas' melayu cukup laris di pasaran.  siap macam-macam versi lagi.  dan terbitan dbp terus terpinggir.
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Post time 26-1-2007 04:34 PM | Show all posts
semua org boleh dakwa keris tu  keris nie.. kerana xda satu dokumen pun ataupun satu bukti sahih yang menceritakan bagaimana ketulenan satu keris itu.. contohnya lakaran sebenar keris Taming Sari ke keris Laksamana Betan.. begitu juga apa2 yg berkaitan dengan keris tersebut seperti terdapat tanda2 yg menunjukkan ianya keris yang sebenar.. asalkan keris lama turun temurun semuanya boleh didakwa keris tu keris nie.. sepatutnya dijalankan kajian usia sesuatu keris tersbut dan bahan utk membuat keris tersebut.. jikalau tiada spefikasi tentang keris yg asal maka tidak boleh dibandingkan dengan keris yg didakwa keris itu keris ini dan dakwaan pemilik keris tersebut hendaklah ditolak..
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Post time 26-1-2007 05:10 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by GRINDSAKHTANIC at 19-12-2006 08:23 PM
ehh...laksamana bentan tuh kalau aku tak silap megat terawis kan??





megat seri lama...eh...megat seri rama....
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Post time 1-6-2007 02:05 PM | Show all posts
sultan mahmud sebelum mangkat kan ada ckp dia haramkan keturunan laksamana bentan jejakkan kaki di kota tinggi kan (ke muar yek, kena check balik dgn nenek saya); sorry sebab dah lama sgt dgr citer ni.....moyang2 saya mmg ada yg muntah darah pun bila sampai kota tinggi....masa tu pulak travel by bus...lebih kurang gitulah ceritanya, saya dah ingat2 lupa.....saya pun mcm x pecaya tp rasanya pecaya....wallahualam
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Post time 23-11-2008 12:00 PM | Show all posts
tak ada bukti yg sahih ada orang menemukan keris Panglima Bentan!
hanya KETURUNAN dia sahaja yg ada simpan keris tu!
kalau benar orang yg bukan keturunan Panglima Bentan tu ada keris Panglima Bentan, mmg MUSTAHIL!
sekarang kalau korang pandai kira, keturunan dia sekarang dah sampai keturunan yg ke-10.
yg masih HIDUP sekarang hanya keturunan yg ke-8, yg ke-9 dan yg sekarang.

Keturunan yang ada sekarang, menurut sumber yg boleh dipercayai, memang memiliki anugerah yg diturunkan oleh Allah.
Tapi setiap daripada 3 keturunan sekarang, hanya segelintir sahaja yg memilikinya.
dan org terpilih antara semua tu mungkin memiliki silat ilmu kebatinan yg diwarisi darpada Panglima Bentan.

tentang asal usul Panglima Bentan, dia berasal dari keturunan Raja di Sumatera atau Jawa...itu saya tak berapa pasti antara kedua2nya.
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Post time 23-11-2008 12:12 PM | Show all posts
sekarang munta darah tu dah hilang, cuma mungkin ada keturunan yg dia sekarang yg jejak sana hanya mengalami loya2 dan pening atau muntah biasa.

Kalau benar diantara yg ada mengakui keturunan Panglima Bentan, mesti ada bukti tertentu.
kalau belajar ada keturunannya ada yg ingin belajar silat, dia mesti beritahu sama ada mereka memiliki
SAKA atau PANGLIMA/LAKSAMANA.
sebab guru silat tu nanti akan lebih berjaga-jaga, ditakuti sesuatu yg tidak terduga akan berlaku ketika "sparring"(berlatih berlawan) nanti. itu salah satu buktinya.

dan juga lupa nak beritahu, Panglima Bentan berani bunuh Sultan Mahmd Shah kerana hanya orang yg berdarah raja sahaja berani berbuat demikian.
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Post time 23-11-2008 12:15 PM | Show all posts

Balas #32 cubajaya\ catat

Kalau benar diantara yg ada mengakui keturunan Panglima Bentan, mesti ada bukti tertentu.
kalau ada keturunannya ada yg ingin belajar silat, dia mesti beritahu sama ada mereka memiliki
SAKA atau PANGLIMA/LAKSAMANA.
sebab guru silat tu nanti akan lebih berjaga-jaga, ditakuti sesuatu yg tidak terduga akan berlaku ketika "sparring"(berlatih berlawan) nanti. itu salah satu buktinya.
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Post time 23-11-2008 01:10 PM | Show all posts
nenek aku pun ade citer keturunan Pang5 ni x leh jejak kota tinggi..x sure skang sumpahan tu masih ade lagi ke tak..
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Post time 29-1-2009 08:17 PM | Show all posts
aku pun ada belajar Pang5....

almaklumlah darah daging kesatria Pang5  hehehe....

antara ilmu nya ialah......... sekali bagi PANG!!! 5 jari...semua budak2 duduk diam dalam mesjid....huhuhu

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Post time 30-1-2009 01:00 PM | Show all posts
Emow Emow Emow...
aku pernah tengok pementasan teater sekolah2 ttg citer nie...mmg best...dan mengenai sumpahan muntah darah...aku pernah baca satu cerita jer...kat mana tah...mastika kot
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Post time 30-1-2009 05:50 PM | Show all posts

Reply #7 arnabkiut's post

Cuba fikir sejanak... Sapa yg dapat kebaikan dari kmatian sultan mahmud?
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Post time 30-1-2009 06:39 PM | Show all posts
cek ler kat keris tu..ade kesan darah sultan mahmud tak??

panggil CSI
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