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Post time 1-8-2008 08:54 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by teky at 26-5-2008 10:41 AM


accountant-key in data jer tanpa rase aper2....just rekod jerrr......pastikan siap...kalo ader lopong kat maner2 cepat2 tampal

auditor plak-keje mencari salah accountant jerrr n others in  ...


aku lak drpd keje audit 4 thn lbh tukar kpd wat akaun lak dlm 2 thn...now ni masuk public sector lak.....so variety la experience aku...heheh.....
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Post time 7-8-2008 11:30 AM | Show all posts
kengkawan, nak tolong sikit.....

Saya ni dah lama keje, tapi sekarang ni saya nak pursue jadi accountant. Jadi akauntan cabuk pun tak pe....

saya ada degree in finance, graduate 10 years ago. Masalahnya saya tak pernah practice....terus keje lain......

Sekarang saya bercadang nak buat balik la keje2 finance ni.....mintak masuk department finance, HR tak bagi(HR tu pilih bulu)......

Saya ada tanya kat sorang consultant chartered accountant ni, dia suruh saya ambik ACCA......

Yang saya tak paham ni, saya serach kat internet, ACCA ni sama level dengan degree......

Saya ingat ACCA ni cam certifcate je.....tolong jelaskan......saya ingat nak ambik ACCA secara part time. Bila dah habis ACCA ni saya ingat nak buat freelance dulu dlm setahun, pastu baru apply jadi akauntan.....

Confius sesangat.......
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Post time 7-8-2008 12:28 PM | Show all posts

Reply #682 Hajeedah's post

WAT LA PJJ...KAN ADER..
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Post time 8-8-2008 10:24 AM | Show all posts

Reply #682 Hajeedah's post

ACCA tu yg 2nd level yg equivalent to degree holder tp kene tgk gak wc university yg diiktiraf by ACCA. Baca lagi kt dlm web ACCA tu... ACCA ni prof bodies for accountant. kalo dpt member with ACCA ni kire gj mmg tahap gaban la.... satu lagi, nk pass semua paper pun bkn senang... misalnyer yg 3rd level tu... ader 3 papers wc u hv to sit and pass in one sitting. kalo salah satu kantoi kene repeat 3 papers tu blk...
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Post time 8-8-2008 10:46 AM | Show all posts
kena tengok syllabus masa ambik degree in finance dulu.  kalau ianya accounting-based, boleh la kot.  kalau ianya finance-oriented, memang payah.  finance tak sama dengan accounting.  bukan setakat plus minus debit kredit saja.

rasanya, elok la ambik ACCA.  lulus level 1, certificate aje kot?  lulus level 2, boleh convert ke degree (rasanya degree in business admin dari oxford-brookes kot?).  aku tak ambik ACCA jadi aku tak tau.  sesapa budak ACCA boleh jelaskan?

kalau dah lepas level 2, boleh la apply kerja dalam bidang perakaunan gunakan kelayakan itu.

namun, kalau dapat full ACCA, tak semestinya gaji banyak ye.  pengalaman kerja, tetap penting.  ramai je bebudak yang exam-oriented dan lulus ACCA dengan cemerlang tapi tak boleh perform.
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Post time 8-8-2008 11:28 AM | Show all posts
Amik ACCA ni bagus - tapi kalau orang yang kerja lagi senang sikit la nak faham subjek dia. Tapi, exam oriented la..setujulah ngan Gemuk, experience gak yang penting...akauntan tu cadangkan u amik ACCA munkin sebab dia rase lebih relevan u amik daripada u start dengan degree..sebab kalau degree you kena belajar area yang lebih luas - tak specific accounting aje. . Tapi ACCA mmg purely accounting and akan menjadikan u accountant..
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Post time 8-8-2008 11:28 AM | Show all posts

Reply #682 Hajeedah's post

basically ACCA ni mmg lebihkurang cam degree in accounting... bezanya

i. ACCA diiktiraf di serata dunia... degree acct local universities blm tentu lagi
ii. lebih berprestij sbb yg sama spt di atas

kalo terdaya (financially & mentally) mmg elok sesangat la amik ACCA ni.. tapi utk jd full member, u still kena complete 3 years relevent experience.

buat degree acctg pun boleh gak... cari universiti yg qualificationnya diiktiraf oleh MIA. pass the degree pastu carik 3 years relevant experience

satu lagi cara... cuba cek ngan MIA.. tgk sama ada u layak atau x utk amik exam QE . kalo layak n pass.. after 3 years u can be accepted as a CA

kalo perati elok2, semua qualification tu require 3 years relevant experience
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Post time 8-8-2008 12:22 PM | Show all posts
Terima kasih byk kepada forumer semua....

It looks like, saya kena start dari degree balik..........still thinking about it........
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Post time 8-8-2008 12:27 PM | Show all posts
kenapa nak jadi akauntan?  kalau tak pun, cuba profesion juruaudit dalaman.  berkaitan akaun dan lama-lama, mungkin dapat mintak internal transfer ke jabatan perakaunan.
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Post time 8-8-2008 11:10 PM | Show all posts

Reply #688 Hajeedah's post

Pada pendapat aku, kalo nko takde basic acc susah nak amik ACCA ni.
Try search ACCA website tgk nko dapat exemption berapa paper.
Nko bg nama uni, tahun & jurusan pastu dapat tahu apa paper yg kene amik.

Bg aku ACCA ni better amik part time study
Sbb bila belajar & tak apply agak samar2 sikit
Sbb ianya more to application

Tp kalo nko pulun soalan past years & buku2
Boleh lulus gaklah cuma kurang pemahaman dr segi real application nya....
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Post time 8-8-2008 11:16 PM | Show all posts
5 thn keje akaun mcm buhsan lak... nak twist bidang la.. tp bidang ape?
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Post time 8-8-2008 11:19 PM | Show all posts

acc graduate skrg....

First of all aku nak mintak maap kalo persoalan aku ni menyinggung mana2 pihak
Aku just nak tahu, ni pun based experience aku

Graduate acc skrg ni nape kurang kualiti ek?
Pastu demand gaji tinggi giler
Ngalahkan org yang dah keje acc bertahun2 pulak...

Budak skrg ni penuh keyakinan
Starting acc exec mintak rm 2000++
Dahlah bila tanya jawapan yg dibagi jwpn buku
Bila apply terkial2....
Even bank recon pun takleh buat
Tapi takde rasa segan pun demand salary camtu....
At least nko tak tahu belajar lah
Ni tak main suka2 ati belasah....

Tp bila tgk result mak ai power giler!
Berlambak A & B dalam subject pure acct...
Kat mana silap sbnrnya......?
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Post time 8-8-2008 11:20 PM | Show all posts

Reply #691 syahza's post

buat bisnes sndr.........

tak pong jd lecturer la....
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Post time 8-8-2008 11:24 PM | Show all posts

Reply #692 dedaun30's post

ntah la beb..

haku dlu 1st keje masuk ade degree basic 1k jerr... kerani akaun..  

tp kalo kata bank recon pun tatau buat, melampau la tu..
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Post time 8-8-2008 11:34 PM | Show all posts

Reply #694 syahza's post

huh aku 1st keje audit gaji RM800 je ....

dahler aku sediakan format bank recon dlm excel
just masukkan amaun undeposited & unpresented je...
tu pun silap difference sampai ratus2 ribu....

yang paling aku angin bila aku tany nape tak sama bank recon ngan bal b/s
dia ckp dgn penuh konfiden
"mmg bal bank tak akan sama dgn catatan kita..."

nko rasa nak tendang tak acct gini..... :@
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Post time 8-8-2008 11:47 PM | Show all posts

Reply #695 dedaun30's post

skang gaji dh brape?
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Post time 8-8-2008 11:49 PM | Show all posts

Reply #696 syahza's post

sila rujuk jadual gaji di posting #679  
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Post time 9-8-2008 09:15 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dedaun30 at 8-8-2008 11:34 PM
huh aku 1st keje audit gaji RM800 je ....

dahler aku sediakan format bank recon dlm excel
just masukkan amaun undeposited & unpresented je...
tu pun silap difference sampai ratus2 ribu.. ...

malunya nak ngaku sama course....bagi aku kalau fresh grad akaun biar start ngan audit firm...even gaji sikt...but then, u can learn...buat bank recon tue gila punya basic...
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Post time 11-8-2008 10:53 AM | Show all posts

Reply #695 dedaun30's post

haahahah... mmg la bank bal n bal kiter x akan pernah sama tp kalo dh wat bank recon mesti la figure tu sama.... mmg patut pun ko naik angin.... hehehehhe....
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Post time 11-8-2008 01:27 PM | Show all posts
hehe...mcm2...aku dulu start keje kat audit firm 700 je....last gaji lps 4 thn lbh keje 1.4k je.....itupon aku rasa gaji yg aku dpt masa tu blh lg dimanfaatkan...masa pon ade lg...so thn kedua aku keje..aku dh apply utk sambung pro study kat MICPA...self-sponsored tu.......sume student lain yg aku jumpa...yg fully sponsored by firm diaorg...tanye nape aku nk pursue study..buang karan je...aku ckp selagi aku ade masa....aku nk study...nnt bila dh kawen ade anak xde masa lak...sudahnye bila dh kawen ade anak...aku ssh nk sambung lg...duit pon x sempat nk rolling.... tp aku mcm sayang lg study aku...tgkla nnt aku sambung...aku tgk MICPA skrg dh business-oriented...xde niat nk bantu student pon...tau nk duit je.....nk kene lulus wshop sume br dpt sit for exam.....ACCA pon x mcm tu......

menjawap soklan hadeeja...aku rasa mana2 option pon ok...ape2 pon ko kene ade experience jgk kalo nk jd akauntan....sbb kita nk keje bkn berdasarkan teori aje..kene ade experience...

pasal bdk2 acc skrg x berkualiti...aku rasa diaorg skrg ni mmg exam-oriented je sume...bab menjawap soklan exam pandai...bab apply x reti...ni aku x kata bdk2 Acc je la....bdk course lain pon sama la kekdahnye....mcm husband aku cite...dia keje survey.....ade bdk baru masuk asyik nk ikut dlm buku je...bila supervisor ckp itu ini xnak ikut...katanya dlm buku xde......biol ke ape....nk ikut buku pon biarla practical kan.....yg kes bank recon tu..tpt keje lama aku pon ade kes ni...heheh..ntahapehape kan...aku dulu sume keje manual tau..siap ade worksheet bagai....korang jgn tatau ade bdk baru tpt aku dulu tanye nape stationery xde opening balance....... ape ke bangang.......dgrnye best student masa kat u dulu......
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