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Zheng He / Cheng Ho

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Post time 11-9-2007 08:34 AM | Show all posts
ASM.
terima kasih pada Sdr. Krek...saya rasa memang tak elok kalau kita kata tak baik pada bangsa Melayu malah mana2 bangsa pun. Bagi yang ingin tahu siapa Datuk Laksamana Hang Tuah, carilah ilmu sampai tahu dan bagi yang ingin tahu tentang Laksamana Cheng ho pun buatlah yang sama. Moga suatu masa, kita semua akan hargai masa lampau keturunan kita, negara kita dan apa yang dikorbankan orang terdahulu untuk kita hari ini.

Jangan ikutkan hati...nanti mati...jangan ikutkan rasa, nanti binasa...lidah memang mudah mengucap kata...tetapi akibatnya kadang buruk dan tercela...

Bukanlah hina dan mulia manusia itu kerana keturunannya...tetapi oleh hati budinya...Saya secara peribadi amat menyanjung LCH dan DLHT. Malah saya mencontohi mereka...kerana contoh teladan yang mereka tinggalkan jarang ditemu lagi, terutama di zaman serba mudah sekarang...

wallahua'lam...
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Post time 13-9-2007 10:57 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by gubra at 9-2-2007 04:27 PM

awat hang buat perbandingan kedua2 tokoh dengan org melayu???? hang memang betul ler cheng ho dan hang tuah tu memang hebat2 dan berciri2 yang baik2, sebabnya satu jer mereka berketurunan baka  ...
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Kami terasa berkecil hati walaupun kelab kami terdiri pelbagai bangsa..jadi bangsa Cina itu mulia sangat ka? baca fakta di bawah:

-Pihak Komunis yg menguasai China selepas berjaya menyingkirkan golongan nasionalis yg terdiri dari puak kuomintang telah mengebom berjuta2 pelarian perang nasionalis yg terdiri dari dewasa, wanita dan kanak2 dgn pesawat pejuang dan meriam ketika perjalanan 1000 batu ke Taiwan..hampir sejuta mati atau cedera.

-dalam ajaran China (Buddha, Taoisme dan Confu.) mengkategori penganut/pengikut yg makan babi, minum arak dan rasuah sebagai sehina2 manusia tapi lihatlah sekarang dalam masyarakat Cina??

- sultan2 dan pembesar menerima baik imigran yg datang bekerja di tanah Melayu dgn menyediakan tanah dan akhirnya pemimpin Melayu setuju memberi kerakyatan..
Tapi bila kerajaan Malaysia baru2 ini ingin membenarkan beribu2 pekerja2 dari China datang bekerja di Malaysia MCA dan banyak persatuan cina menentang kedatangan tersebut..

Agak2 siapa yg paling tak boleh dipercayai dan pengkhianat sesama bangsa dan negara??? Jawablah..sejarah tidak menipu..
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Post time 14-9-2007 02:09 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by highlander07 at 13-9-2007 10:57 PM
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Kami terasa berkecil hati walaupun kelab kami terdiri pelbagai bangsa..jadi bangsa Cina itu mulia sangat ka? baca fakta di bawah:

-Pihak Komunis yg menguasai China selepas berjaya menying ...



since when is the eating of meat and drinking of alchohol is forbidden in all of the 3 religions you've stated? and FYI the consuption of meat is not forbidden in all all Buddhist denomination. and also the consumption of pork is never forbidden AT ALL and that includes alcohol. corruption was and will be the downfall of the PRC and the KMT respectively. the way to go is to be like Hong Kong or Singapore or even modern Taiwan.  

War is evil and killing of innocnet children and women is wrong. I suggest you polish up your history knowledge before you write anything. KMT under the rule of Generalissmo Chiang Kai-shek was not a such a saint either in his treatment of the communist; which he considers as the ultimate evil and have to be eradicated/purged at all cost.

finally i urge you to brush up on your general knowledge before you write anything inorder for you not to appear and sound dumb/stupid.

cheers
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Post time 17-9-2007 01:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by highlander07 at 13-9-2007 10:57 PM
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Kami terasa berkecil hati walaupun kelab kami terdiri pelbagai bangsa..jadi bangsa Cina itu mulia sangat ka? baca fakta di bawah:

-Pihak Komunis yg menguasai China selepas berjaya menying ...


btul jugak.so apa pendapat forumer yang lain?
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Post time 8-10-2007 01:23 PM | Show all posts
Kenyan girl's blood ties with China


(Xinhua)
Updated: 2005-07-01 09:09




Nineteen-year-old Mwamaka Sharifu Lali of Kenya is all smiles June 30, 2005 after gettinga visa to visit China from the Chinese Embassy in Nairobi. The girl is believed to be a descendent of one of Zheng He's sailors, who settled in Kenya after a shipwreck in the 15th century.

"My grandmother has told me I am a descendent of a Chinese sailor since I was young," Sharifu said.

On royal orders, Zheng, a eunuch of the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644),commanded seven expeditions to the "Western Oceans" between 1405 and 1433. Navigating by compass and astronomical readings, Zheng's fleet visited more than 30 countries and regions in Asia and Africa including Kenya. The expeditions spread Chinese cultural and technological influence as well as fostering trade and goodwill.

Zheng He'simpressive fleet comprised more than 200 ships and a crew of more than20,000. The 100-metre-long flagships, known as "treasure ships," sailedin convoy with a fleet of battleships, combat billets, supply ships,water tankers and horse ships. The size of the fleet, the equipmentused and the distance covered were all unrivalled at that time.

Sharifuwill visit Taicang, in East China's Jiangsu Province, where Zheng'sfleet started its expeditions. Activities are being held there to mark the 600th anniversary of Zheng He's voyages.

The girl has also won a Chinese Government scholarship to study at a Chinese university later this year.




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Post time 8-10-2007 01:40 PM | Show all posts
Cheng Ho ada ZURIAT ???

Bukankah Cheng Ho seorang SIDA....setiap orang SIDA akan di KASI (potong "anu"nya)...jadi macam mana boleh menurunkan zuriat ???
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Post time 8-10-2007 10:46 PM | Show all posts
ah sudah..nanti gaduh kaum pulak
nak ber'debate' biar berbudi bahasa ye
doesnt matter which language you use...manners still apply to all
have a nice day everybody
banyk teori pasal HT ni melayu ke cina ke prmpuan ke lelaki
tapi slagi makam digali utk memastikan dia ni apa...maka apa2 spekulasi hanya spkulasi
dan jgnla hina2 bangsa org laen
tuhan cipta kita laen2 bukan nak suruh gaduh
n i hope forumers yg post 'blunders' kaum cina tu to not do it again..unless utk pengetahuan am..kalau nak menjatuhkan, anda seolah2 menunjukkan bahawa org melayu ni suka cari salah org dan telanjangkan dari berfikir cara2 utk menyelesaikan masalah (bangsa) sendiri...
please dont gaduh n make things worse..skrg pun malaysia bkn la aman sgt
bangsa ni xsuka bangsa ni..yg itu mcm ni...sudahla..lets live together n discover our history
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Post time 11-2-2008 09:40 AM | Show all posts
Zheng He (Cheng Ho) Expedition Animation







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fft-w-QIA9E



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Post time 11-2-2008 11:23 AM | Show all posts
aku baru balik dari Nanjing..
dalam setiap 7 pelayaran mesti dia singgah melaka ...



x dpt masuk rumah dia ari tu..sbb tutup CNY...
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Post time 11-2-2008 11:55 AM | Show all posts
tepek lah lagi gambar kat nanjing....
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Post time 11-2-2008 02:43 PM | Show all posts

Reply #130 HangPC2's post

yg banyak gambar cuma Nanjing Memorial Hall of Compatriots, which is aku rasa x sesuai untuk thread Zheng He nie...
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Post time 11-2-2008 04:44 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by HangPC2 at 8-9-2007 01:25 PM
Film Cheng Ho dan Yusril Ihza Mahendra


Oleh Bahrul Alam


19/08/07 00:18


Film serial drama kolosal "Laksamana Cheng Ho" diharapkan bisa ditonton di enam negara Asia, yakni Indonesia, ...




Preview






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Ftajuaneo







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Post time 15-2-2008 11:02 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 17-2-2008 10:39 PM | Show all posts
Hey, never read that zheng he hv a mission indeed:
finding a genuine emperor of dynasty ming (konon emperor sebelum yong le)
sebab, emperor tersebut bukan keturunan benar emperor zhu (1st emperor dinasti ming), dan risau emperor benar kembali dan terbongkar identiti lalu gugat kedudukannya. Jadi, beliau hantar zheng he to find the lost emperor..
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Post time 14-11-2009 03:23 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 15-11-2009 05:13 PM | Show all posts
Cheng Ho ada ZURIAT ???

Bukankah Cheng Ho seorang SIDA....setiap orang SIDA akan di KASI (potong "anu"nya)...jadi macam mana boleh menurunkan zuriat ???
tongkatali Post at 8-10-2007 13:40


Beliau bukan Sida sebab Beliau Admiral.Admiral ni mcm Panglima juga malah lebih besar statusnya dari Panglima.Takkan seorang Laksamana pun nak kena poton.?
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Post time 15-11-2009 06:33 PM | Show all posts
zaman sebelum jadi Laksamana.....
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Post time 15-11-2009 08:18 PM | Show all posts
Pernah terbaca kat paper mana ntah yg beliau memang mempunyai keturunan.Keturunannya tinggal kat satu perkampungan Islam.
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Post time 17-11-2009 03:02 PM | Show all posts
pulak dah?? mana satu ni? kata sida memula pahtu diangkat jd laksemana pasal kecerdikan dia.... correct me if wrong.......... bkn sida tu kene potong dianye ker? as far as i know.. then ni ade zuriat plak? hurm........

suke bc mende2 mcm ni.. me pandang dia sbg seorg Islam regardless kaum aper, dr mana.. tumpang bangga and inspired dgn dia n ilmuan Islam yg lain2..... not semua Melayu itu hampeh dan bukan semua bukan Melayu itu bagus... yg penting level  TAQWA kepada Allah... sebab itulah ukuran darjat kita disisiNYA..
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Post time 17-11-2009 05:03 PM | Show all posts
Tak silap saya cerita tentang Cheng Ho ni dulu pernah ada kat ruangan Perspektif Berita Harian dulu.Yang ditemuramah oleh wartawan salah seorang dari keturunan beliau.Gambar Pusara beliau juga turut dipaparkan.
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