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Post time 4-3-2007 04:05 PM | Show all posts |Read mode




Bukan la nak bangga ngan singapore.. tapi korang tengok apa yang diorang offer kat rakyat diorang... 10Mbps dgn harga lebih kurang 1Mbps yang Stremsux offer.. pas tu bangga gila bagai ngan apa yang stremsux offer.. fikir fikir kan la...
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Post time 4-3-2007 04:59 PM | Show all posts
10mbps? download apa-apa mesti best ..boleh ke

kita dapat speed macam tu? sedangkan janji 1MB pun

dapat 700, 800 kbps aje..huh
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Post time 4-3-2007 05:09 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 prince7's post

singapore kecik.. boleh la buat camgitu..(waa.. cam backing stremnut jee wahahaaa)
tapi streamyx(a.k.a TMnut) ni pelik arr...nak buat macam2 tapi yg ada skng ni pun semput huh... aparraa.. camne Malaysia nak maju camgini...


anyw selagi tak kacau aku on9 ok, kalau tak mau kena jee bom TMnut nih:@
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Post time 4-3-2007 05:52 PM | Show all posts

Reply #3 Mahadaya's post

wakil TMNET Ke..prince just buat perbandingan jer....lepak arr....
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Post time 4-3-2007 06:23 PM | Show all posts

Reply #4 MulutBecok's post

ff: Post tu aku delete - takde isi, provocative and hanya mengundang 'flame war'. Not what we want here or even in CARI forum.
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Post time 4-3-2007 06:58 PM | Show all posts

Reply #3 ami_kidz125's post

stuju dgn ko, singapura-pura tu kecik.
kalo nak ganti copper kabel pun takde la teruk cam kita.
padahal kalo nak kasi bikin wifi pun diorang leh cover satu s'pore.
talak helan la...

tapi, still... tmnet masih ditakuk lama.
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Post time 4-3-2007 08:32 PM | Show all posts

Reply #6 bzzts's post

:setuju:

Well kalo isu demografik jadi isunye..penetration kat Msia akan terus rendah..kita ada infra ( kabel/fiber) just hardware for implement the broadband je jadi masalah..they still rely for demand, i mean business...lately ada cadangan talian tetap nak guna CDMA (wireless) bagi setel masalah kabel kene curik ( ni satu masalah tahap sampah mereka yg malas carik duit sendiri ..mencurik je kejenye). CDMA (am i rite?) banyak masalahnye n sah2 broadband tak leh pakai...for me WimAx can solve this problem ( i guess) but still baru peringkat permulaan
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Post time 4-3-2007 08:41 PM | Show all posts

Reply #7 MulutBecok's post

Interesting baca pendapat ko. Aku ada terbaca ni recently:

Dari http://www.wirelessnetdesignline.com/howto/broadband/60400425

Five reasons why TD-CDMA outshines WiMAX in wireless broadband
TD-CDMA has a number of technical advantages that make it a strong contender in the wireless broadband market. Here's a look at five of the key benefits TS-CDMA provides to a broadband wireless design.
By Chenwei Yan, UTStarcom, Inc.

In today's complex broadband environment, demand is rising for ubiquitous wireless broadband coverage and for bigger and faster wide-area wireless pipes that can handle the bandwidth required for applications such as video broadcasting, Internet browsing, Voice over IP (VoIP), and more. Cellular operators and Internet Service Providers (ISPs) alike want a wireless connection solution that can also provide a migration path to full mobility similar to that offered by existing cellular systems. The availability of such a wireless broadband solution is especially important for operators that do not own cable or telephone access lines, since the solution will give them the opportunity to reach subscribers directly.

Two options supporting wireless broadband applications are time division-CDMA (TD-CDMA) and WiMAX. WiMAX has been hailed as the hot new metropolitan-area wireless standard, even though it is not yet complete and real products are still two to three years away. TD-CDMA complies with the 3G Partnership Project (3GPP) Universal Mobile Telecommunications Systems Time Division Duplexing (UMTS TDD) standard, and many operators have already deployed and are today generating revenue from TD-CDMA-based wireless networks. As part of 3GPP, TD-CDMA has the backing of a large international standards body and large number of operators and equipment vendors. WiMAX, on the other hand, is being developed by a small industry group.

Compared to WiMAX, TD-CDMA has a number of technical advantages that make it a strong contender in the wireless broadband market. Below, we'll show you five reasons why TD-CDMA may be a better option than WiMAX in broadband wireless designs.

1. Bigger Cells, Reduced Expenses
A wireless technology's cell coverage area is of key importance, since operators can reduce their initial capital expenditures if they can serve the same area with fewer base stations. TD-CDMA has a clear advantage here; cell coverage of up to several kilometers has been proven in major operator trials and commercial deployments. To achieve this coverage, TD-CDMA employs advanced power control mechanisms that allow the data throughput to gradually decrease as a terminal gets further and further away from the base station.

WiMAX calls for use of an orthogonal frequency-division multiplexing (OFDM)-based modulation technique, and coverage has not yet been proven in an actual network. Theoretical analysis shows that cell coverage is less than 280 meters outdoors using OFD multiple access (OFDMA), and less than 450 meters outdoors using OFDMA in the 2.6 GHz band.

2. Fixed Wireless Now, Mobile Later
The ability of a technology to support mobility -- even for operators that primarily wish to deploy a fixed wireless solution -- is important for two reasons. First, the ability to carry the PCMCIA modem anywhere is an important value-add differentiation and selling point for operators, even though most of the time the user is stationary. Second, a wireless broadband technology that supports mobility now, unlike one that supports only fixed applications, gives operators an easy migration path to mobile applications in the future.

Mobility and portability must be supported on the subscriber terminal, since traditionally fixed modems have a very different form factor than mobile devices. One approach to resolving this problem employs a detachable PCMCIA card that can be used with a range of fixed subscriber terminal boxes (CTEs). For stationary applications, the user can insert the PCMCIA card into a CTE, and for mobile applications, the user can remove the PCMCIA card from the CTE and insert it into a laptop computer. In the future, TD-CDMA and dual-mode handsets that take advantage of the mobile network will be available.

TD-CDMA subscriber terminals can support mobility by automatically detecting the signal strength of surrounding base station cells and informing the network of a better signal before the existing connection is broken. Automatic signal detection thus enables a transparent handoff as the user moves from the coverage area of one base station to another.

Mobility also requires the support of both the radio access network (RAN) and the core network and is much easier to achieve when the entire network is based on the same standard. TD-CDMA uses the same mature, core networks already widely deployed for UMTS/GSM, and handoff from one piece of equipment to another is handled by well-defined 3GPP standards and protocols.

The first release of WiMAX is defined only as a broadband RAN and does not support mobility. While it is claimed that later versions of WiMAX will support mobility, the lack of standardization makes it difficult to integrate WiMAX-based products from different vendors. Although some vendors say they are working on mobile WiMAX, industry observers are skeptical this will happen soon, if at all, especially as there is increasing recognition that UMTS-TDD already offers mobility as well as high speeds.

3. VoIP Supprt
Normal shared-channel implementation for packet data is great for achieving bandwidth efficiency but presents a big challenge for packetized voice traffic. TD-CDMA technology resolves this problem by supporting dedicated air interface channels for voice-over-IP (VoIP) traffic when a user voice session is set up, as well as by supporting end-to-end quality of service (QoS).

Dedicated bandwidth for voice packets over the air-interface is critical, as voice packets must be delivered with minimal latency to ensure sound quality. TD-CDMA, together with the 3GPP-defined core network QoS, ensures that neither the air-interface nor the core network becomes a bottleneck for voice traffic, traditionally a critical limitation for voice services over a shared packet data network. TD-CDMA VoIP is being demonstrated in live field deployments today.

WiMAX does not address VoIP yet, and QoS is an end-to-end effort that requires support from the subscriber modem to every piece of equipment in the network. Unlike 3GPP, WiMAX does not define the behavior of each piece of equipment in the network, making QoS a complex task.

4. Global Roaming
TD-CDMA supports global roaming, since the underlying 3GPP standards were developed for both cellular operators and traditional ISPs. Cellular operators' needs are addressed through support for Home Location Register (HLR) and Universal Subscriber Identify Module (USIM), which are defined for global roaming. ISP roaming needs are met via AAA RADIUS servers and HLR extension functions that can be built into TD-CDMA equipment.

WiMAX, however, does not address or define cellular operators' needs. Because it is being designed to meet the needs of ISPs, WiMAX supports roaming only via AAA RADIUS and does not have well-defined protocols for global roaming.

5. Frequency Band Flexibility
TD-CDMA has the edge over WiMAX in providing the operator with as much flexibility as possible in using available frequency band. TD-CDMA operates in 1.9 and 2 GHz UMTS-TDD band, as well as the 2.5 and 3.4 GHz bands. WiMAX, on the other hand, cannot operate in the UMTS band. Furthermore, European governments may restrict the 2.5 GHz band to UMTS-based technology only in the near future. Thus, TD-CDMA has a much bigger addressable market than WiMAX.

N=1 re-use is also a key part of frequency flexibility and a natural characteristic of all CDMA technologies. With N=1 re-use, operators need to support only one times the frequency spectrum required. WiMAX requires in-band subchannel re-use or frequency hopping if N=1 is used. Both techniques reduce network capacity. In most cases, N=3 reuse is necessary with WiMax and would require operators to purchase more spectrum.

Clear Advantage
While it is difficult to compare all aspects of TD-CDMA and WiMAX technologies in a brief article, even a bird's eye view of some of the issues reveals certain major differences. The clear advantage goes to TD-CDMA, a proven technology that is available now for cellular operators and ISPs alike. Also, because TD-CDMA is part of the 3GPP umbrella, it is fully interoperable with existing UMTS-based networks and provides a migration path to mobile applications, enabling far more flexible use of available spectrum as well as the QoS required by voice applications. These advantages add up to a compelling brief for TD-CDMA as the technology best suited to implement wireless broadband solutions worldwide.

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Post time 4-3-2007 08:51 PM | Show all posts

Reply #8 0001's post

is this a new technology? maknenye TDCDMA have a wide coverage and better hand off between base station( kalo mobile la)..implementing this kind of technology is better because kurang infra n boleh cater more subsriber..just limitation pada kualiti terutamanya gangguan cuaca...TDCMA guna satu frekuensi for uplink and downlink but not sure for wimax

taken from wikipedia, wimaxlimitation

A commonly held misconception is that WiMAX will deliver 70 Mbit/s, over 70 miles (112.6 kilometers). Each of these is true individually, given ideal circumstances, but they are not simultaneously true. In practice this means that in line-of-sight environments you could deliver symmetrical speeds of 10Mbps at 10km but in urban environments it is more likely that 30% of installations may be non-line-of-sight and therefore users may only receive 10Mbps over 2km. WiMAX has some similarities to DSL in this respect, where one can either have high bandwidth or long reach, but not both simultaneously. The other feature to consider with WiMAX is that available bandwidth is shared between users in a given radio sector, so if there are many active users in a single sector, each will get reduced bandwidth. However, unlike SDSL where contention is very noticeable at a 5:1 ratio (if you are sharing your connection with a large media firm for example), WiMAX does not have this problem. Typically each cell has a 100Mbps backhaul so there is no contention here. In practice, many users will have a range of 2-, 4-, 6-, 8- or 10Mbps services and the bandwidth can be shared. If the network becomes busy the business model is more like GSM or UMTS than DSL. It is easy to predict capacity requirements as you add customers and additional radio cards can be added on the same sector to increase the capacity.
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Post time 4-3-2007 08:52 PM | Show all posts
but i'm stick to wired broadband becoz kurang problem..
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Post time 4-3-2007 09:09 PM | Show all posts

Reply #9 MulutBecok's post

Cases camni, both sides sure ada jer advantagesnya. Aku ingat lagi betapa hyped nyer WAP dulu... excited giler aku pasal technology tu... tengok2 tak sempat nak terbang dah KO tak terpakai. Semenjak tu, aku dah jadik sceptical kat semua new technologies... aku prefer to wait and see the results before aku caya atau tidak. Baca semua for knowledge jer... tak support kecuali sendiri dah rasai kebaikannya.

Yeah, me stuck with wired broadband too... suka atau tidak...
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Post time 5-3-2007 09:02 AM | Show all posts
yup...CDMA and its related technology mmg better kalau tak as good as Wimax...tapi masalah kat Malaysia ni seperti biasa la...polisi kerajaan...tak yah la aku nak elaborate...pikir sendiri la kalau TM buat CDWA secara all out apa akan jadi pada ikan bilis2 lain?...so who said kerajaan protect TM? think again...
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 Author| Post time 5-3-2007 10:01 AM | Show all posts
masalahnye TM dah diswastakan.. sume based pada keuntungan... kita bayar nak dapatkan service yang terbaik tapi dapat yang worst... cam mana nak kata 1Mbps tu the best their can provide? sedangkan nak upgrade pun kita kena bayor...payment nak cepat tapi service hancur....
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Post time 5-3-2007 09:27 PM | Show all posts
But we have to keep in mind that Streamyx allows its users to download illegal files/torrents while in the other hand Singtel doesn't. Singtel cooperates quite well with Singapore's government in combating piracy as far as I know.
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Post time 5-3-2007 10:53 PM | Show all posts

Reply #14 w00t's post

:setuju:

tu pasal dieorg boleh cover bandwidth.
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Post time 5-3-2007 11:12 PM | Show all posts

Reply #14 w00t's post

yalah..i heard about it too..so for me biarlah rendah asalkan leh torrent
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Post time 6-3-2007 09:09 AM | Show all posts
Org Malaysia perlu lebih creative utk create content sendiri dan bukan hanya jadi passive downloader (download movie, etc.)...

only then baru kita perlu bising untuk dapatkan more bandwidth...
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