Proton vs VW - Siapa perlukan siapa?

WakDaeng

Berbanding Proton yang hanya jaguh kampung (itu pun kalau jaguh?) VW merupakan pengeluar dan pengedar gergasi automobil duna. Daripada product yang berkos sedrhana seperti VW Golf, Passat, Jetta, Beetle hinggalah ke high end product seperti Toureg, product mereka telah berjaya menjelajahi seluruh duna dengan rangkaian pemasaran yang efisien dan tersusun.

Persoalan nya mengapa harus VW bergabung dgn Proton?. Atau apakah terjejas pasaran mereka di rantau Asia Tenggara sekiranya persepakatan ini gagal?. Dengan lain perkataan adakah VW begitu desperate sehingga perlukan Proton dalam kumpulan mereka untuk pasaran di rantau ini. Proton pula dilihat masih dilihat terkial-kial untuk menempatkan diri dalam pasaran antarabangsa. Dilihat secara kasarnya sememangnya gabungan Proton dan VW boleh menjadi penggerak kapada pasaran Proton di peringkat antara bangsa.

Perlu di ingat bahawa VW adalh business entity dan telah establish di seluruh dunia. Segala apa langkah yg mereka rancang dan laksanakan sememangnya berdasrkan kapada keuntungan. Its too good to be true sekiranya VW bergabung dgn Proton semata-mata untuk menyelamatkan Proton yg semakin tenat.
Atau mungkin terlalu banyak red tape dan birokrasi yang diletakkan oleh pihak Proton sehingga isu ini berlarutan begitu lama. Dan tidak mustahil senario antara Port Klang Free Zone dan Jebel Ali Free Zone akan berulang, dimana pihak JAFZA menarik diri kerana meluat dengan syarat-syart yang dikenakan oleh PKFZ.

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Malaysia's Proton and VW say tie-up talks shelved

Malaysia's government and Volkswagen said Tuesday they had shelved long-running talks about an alliance between the German firm and the Asian nation's car maker Proton.

Malaysia's state investment arm Khazanah Nasional, which controls Proton, said it had discontinued negotiations with Volkswagen.
The German car maker said in a statement it and the Malaysian government had for the time being decided "to shelve their joint talks" about the alliance.
The talks began in October 2004 aiming to revitalise Proton, which experts say has suffered from stiff competition, a lack of new models and a reputation for poor quality.

Khazanah said it had also ended talks with General Motors. The government had said it would turn to the US auto giant if talks with Volkswagen failed.
An improvement in Proton's domestic sales and exports had led to the decision to halt negotiations, the state investment arm said in its statement.
"The government is therefore of the view that Proton's management should be allowed to continue with its plans to further strengthen the company," it said.
But it also left the door ajar for a future tie-up, saying a strategic alliance could be considered at a later date.
"Talks with Volkswagen have not broken down. They may have discussions later on," a senior finance ministry official, who wished to remain anonymous, told AFP.

"For the time being, Proton will not enter into any pact with any car manufacturer. The government has decided that Proton will be managed by itself," the official said.

Proton has suffered a sharp decline in market share and been hit by losses, including a 46.75-million-ringgit (13.8-million-dollar) loss over the three months to June.

A deal was expected to boost Proton's efforts to reclaim top spot in Malaysia and gain a foothold in the lucrative European market.

But such partnerships were hard to forge because of the government's reluctance to cede control of a key national company to foreign hands, analysts said.
"We can only speculate but management control and the shareholding structure was probably the main issue. The talks have really dragged on," Kurnia Insurans chief investment officer Pankaj Kumar told AFP.

"Proton cars have been selling well locally for the last few months but at the end of the day, Proton has to be competitive globally," he said.
"I don't think it has been that innovative. The new models are mostly re-badged versions of previous models," he added.

A Volkswagen spokesman told AFP in Frankfurt that the group was now looking for "new commitments" in Southeast Asia.
"The company continues to pursue the goal of developing a successful foundation for production and distribution in Southeast Asia for years to come," the firm said

takde_name

aku rase same2 saling memerlukan..vw perlukan potong ntok produce dan market kete die kat south east asia..proton perlukan vw nye teknologi ntok tingkatkan kualiti dieorg..sape2 ade detail perjanjian ni??

assaffah

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Originally posted by takde_name at 23-11-2007 02:32 PM
aku rase same2 saling memerlukan..vw perlukan potong ntok produce dan market kete die kat south east asia..proton perlukan vw nye teknologi ntok tingkatkan kualiti dieorg..sape2 ade detail perjan ...

areguard

Kerajaan tak mahu sacrifice rangkaian vendor2 yg supply parts to Proton yg mungkin VW tak maintain selepas ambil alih management control- habislah tan-sri-preneur melayu nanti

waksir

VW mmg kompeni besar so nak buat ape mrk mau bergabung dgn Proton. Tp sebaliknye mrk mau menguasai proton. Sedangkan Proton cuma mau cari partner utk kukuhkan brand, teknologi & pasaran bukanye terus terlepas ke tgn org asing.
Mmg vendor2 proton byk yg hampeh & kroni ....... tp jika VW yg kontrol, pastinye vendor2 akan ditukar. Ini lagi parah sbb ramai pekerja2 tempatan berada di vendor2 proton tika ini.

waksir

VW mmg kompeni besar so nak buat ape mrk mau bergabung dgn Proton. Tp sebaliknye mrk mau menguasai proton. Sedangkan Proton cuma mau cari partner utk kukuhkan brand, teknologi & pasaran bukanye terus terlepas ke tgn org asing.
Mmg vendor2 proton byk yg hampeh & kroni ....... tp jika VW yg kontrol, pastinye vendor2 akan ditukar. Ini lagi parah sbb ramai pekerja2 tempatan berada di vendor2 proton tika ini.

waksir

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hotcup

proton perlukan VW

IPOd

hm..aku pn xtau nak komen ape,tp asalkan proton dpt hasilkan kreta same standard dgn vw,kan bagus..he3..

Chek_am8848

nak kuarkan kete high class mmg proton boleh... tapi perlukan banyak pengorbanan... kalu tiap2 tahun nak kutip keuntungan melampau tanpa pedulikkan kehendak pembeli.... bila masa Proton nak maju?? Keuntungan bergantung pada produk!!

Keluarkan dulu kete2 yang bagus pada harga 'mampu beli'... buat R&D betul2... dgn itu semua aku pikir Proton akan lebih maju...

haliem

Originally posted by hotcup at 25-11-2007 06:44 AM
proton perlukan VW

BERITA TERBARU..........SAHAM PROTON JATUH MERUDUM DI BSKL SEJAK PENGUMUMAN PROTON NAK BATALKAN PERBINCANGAN DENGAN VW!...

Agak2nya...bodoh sangat ke pelabur saham nak fikir hal ini.Proton yang perlukan VW utk 'meng akasawan'  produk mereka!...bukan VW perlukan mereka!bahasa masa persidangan UMENO ni!heheh

aks_berhad

VW cuma minat kat kilang canggih manggih proton kat tanjung malim tu jer...itu laa sebab musabab dier berminat nak take over proton.

Lebih baik bergabung time proton tgh naik atau stabil, daripada bergabung time nyawa2 ikan.

satriastendet

GM still hopeful of tie-up with Proton
28 Nov 2007
Local Source: New Straits Times
By Goh Thean Eu [Business Times]  
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Date Published : 28 Nov 2007

  

GENERAL Motors Corp (GM) has not entirely given up hope of a possible tie-up with Proton Holdings Bhd, despite the Malaysian carmaker's recent decision that it wants to stay on its own.

Last week, the government decided to give Proton the chance to complete its turnaround plan, simultaneously ending alliance talks with German automotive company, Volkswagen AG.


The government, however, did not discount the possibility of Proton having to invite a foreign partner in future.


"Never say never. In General Motors, any opportunities that come our way, we'll never turn down. But in the meantime, things have moved on ... Probably by the time we talk again, things will have moved on some more ... It's a complicated situation, you know," said GM's head of Southeast Asian operation Steve Carlisle.


While foreign partner tie-up has been called off for now, the government may allow Proton to tie- up with a local player. Should the government approve of a strategic alliance with a local partner, DRB-HICOM Bhd and Naza are seen as the front-runners.


"If there's an opportunity, of course we would love to see where we can participate," said DRB-HICOM chairman Datuk Mohd Khamil Jamil.


Both Mohd Khamil and Carlisle were speaking to the media after the launch of the new seven-seater sports utility vehicle (SUV) Chevrolet Captiva.


The SUV - which is available in two engine types: a 2.4 litre petrol engine and a 2.0 litre turbo diesel engine - is expected to be priced between RM137,888 and RM154,888 (excluding insurance).


HICOM-Chevrolet Sdn Bhd designated chief executive officer Vickie Wisadkosin expects the Chevrolet Captiva to be well received in Malaysia, based on the response so far from other countries.


Wisadkosin said that the company is expected to regain its form and sell 5,500 units next year, with the help of the new SUV as well as three to four more new models which will be released within the next six months.


  tuan Mod, ok x artikel nie? ngeh2....

bagong

esok masih ada .. utk proton tu

t@t

Originally posted by areguard at 23-11-2007 03:47 PM
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