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Post time 21-7-2009 09:29 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
What is your elaboration about success? Does success related to happiness or vice versa or non of the statement is relevant.
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Post time 22-7-2009 07:58 AM | Show all posts
to me success is just  A REALISATION OF GOAL, achieving objective.

kalau kita plan nak dapat 20 A dan kita capai target tu so kita sudah sukses. Kalau dapat 19 A dan 1 B, it is not 100 percent success, say 90 percent success. So success is quantitative.

ramai manusia successful dalam banyak aspek misal success in business, profit kompeni beribu juta dollar, success in marrying beautiful wife, success dalam peperiksaan tapi semua itu sekadar memenuhi objektif or mencapai cita cita saja

bila sudah tercapai cita cita atau mimpi suda jadi realiti,  ramai mereka ini masih tidak merasai happiness, masih terasa adaaaaa sesuatu yang kurang.

research telah menunjukkkan populasi di BOGOTA lebih happy dari populasi di LONDON. Sedangkan Bolivia negara mundur, dunia ketiga manakala London berada dalam dunia pertama or negara maju.

In term of success materially, Bolivia tentu kalah dengan London.

Amik contoh mudah, ORANG ASLI or indigenous ppl. Atau misal tribesmen di hutan Amazon , Brazil. Apa success mereka? Nak makan pegi berburu, sumpit or panah dapat makanan cuma untuk hari itu, tiada peti sejuk or microwave oven. Bandingkan orang modern misal di Kuala Lumpur. Stok makanan dalam peti ais sampai tak muat nak bubuh. Siapa lebih happy? Kenapa orang moden bila cuti cabut lari pergi get away ke tempat misal alam semulajadi cari ketenangan kata mereka?

Hidup moden ialah hidup yang penuh stress, kemudian jadi depress kemudian bunuh diri. Sedangkan hidup moden penuh dengan kejayaan kejayaan manusia, bangunan mencakar langit dan segalanya. Orang moden mencipta kemudahan, yang akhirnya mendatangkan hidup yang stressful.

Bagaimana nak happy kalau stressful?

untuk membunuh stress kita cipta HIBURAN, lampu neon berkelipan dan entertainment 24 jam di cable tv.  Habis wayang, kembali stress, akhirnya amik dadah. Overdose painkillers to soothe the pain, numb yourself. Are these examples of happiness?

What are the examples of happiness?  Senang saja..tenguk dunia KANAK KANAK. Learn from children how to be happy. Tetapi jangan terkejut, zaman moden begini budak remaja pun ada kene darah tinggi sebab stress !!

konsep hidup LESS IS MORE pada saya adalah terbaik. maybe some ppl will disagree.
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Post time 22-7-2009 10:30 AM | Show all posts
Cik eda laisla bonita

To me it's kinda wide and generic.

Kejayaan adalah apabila the ultimate goal, the end in mind tu tercapai. Ianya akan tercapai with series of accomplishment. Sebagai student, saya ingin menjadi DEKAT ENJIN. Success hanya boleh dicapai menerusi accomplishment saya didalam akademik, ko - ko dan proses-proses yang sewaktu dengannya secara berterusan dan apabila saya diterima memperolehi pekerjaan idaman saya, maka itu dinilai sebagai success mencapai karier.
Namun sukses dan kebahagiaan mempunyai perspektif yang berbeza2. Sukses bagi pasangan pengantin ialah apabila kekal sepanjang hayat. Bahagiakah sepanjang hayat? Tidak juga sekiranya anak cucu keturunannya bercerai berai dan tidak mengikuti jejak langkah ibubapa yang kekal.
Sukses seorang guru mungkin apabila anak didik berjaya didalam ppeperiksaan, tapi bahagiakan guru itu kerana murid yang berjaya itu menjadi con man dari ilmu yg didiknya?
Sukses seorang boss mungkin apabila profit skyhigh, tapi bahagiakah boss itu kalau dia seorang yang bekerja tanpa dibantu pekerjanya?

So, pendek kata, sukses dan kebahgiaan itu istilah yang lain. Ada kalanya ianya berkait rapat, namun tidak kurang juga ia bertentangan.
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Post time 22-7-2009 01:46 PM | Show all posts
Success should be defined as the ability to be happy or so someone once said.

If we find rejection to that idea and intellectually oppose that, let's try again to see if it's really that simple.

Anyway, if you ask me, I'm unable to defend that idea. I can only try it in my life, if it works.
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 Author| Post time 22-7-2009 04:21 PM | Show all posts
Success should be defined as the ability to be happy or so someone once said.

If we find rejection to that idea and intellectually oppose that, let's try again to see if it's really that simple.
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Agul Post at 22-7-2009 01:46 PM


An ability to be happy is success.
I would quote that even if we have achieve lots of accomplishment in terms of physical or material didn't mean that we are happy. Even if we possessed wealthy position with stable condition still didn't mean that success being achieved.  Success is a step in achieving total happiness. Be it with family, friends, as an individual, as an employee, as a daughter or irrespective who you are, if you wanna be happy, you have to go through the gate of success.
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Post time 22-7-2009 05:09 PM | Show all posts
happiness is a state of being

dont worry, be happy.

u dont need this or that to be happy, just be happy, like children

happiness is known can improve human immune system

success is functional issue. u couldnt get the car runnin on the road. so what is the trouble? fix it and get it to run. whether the car is breaking down or running on the road, u still happy.

success can make u happy. anything with a function can make u happy. a wife can make u happy, money, degree, a holiday etc.

happiness is a spiritual issue. Tidak memerlukan sebab untuk happy. Just happy. Born to be happy. Ada happy, tak ada pun happy.
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Post time 22-7-2009 07:04 PM | Show all posts
It's a choice. No external factor needed.

However, most of us human being can only have intellectual understanding of this (may i say truth? ), most of us don't have the skill to be happy. So there we goes....
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 Author| Post time 22-7-2009 08:03 PM | Show all posts
Happiness is the collective of success. Success differs from perspective of every individual. Things go beyond human logical state of mind will not bring you happiness.
You will feel unhappy when your car broke down, (time frame when the car broke down and the car is being fixed will create unhappiness) life is at stake, wife is having an affair, and your dead broke. The situation will be turn around depending on your response to orchestrate.
You need a reason to be happy, partly motivational issues. Manusia yang selalu je happy   ada 2 jenis.
1)Children
2)Kat Tanjung Rambutan
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Post time 22-7-2009 08:08 PM | Show all posts
The problem with this is, the same thing happens to two different people. One may get miserable while the other one can mantain his state of happiness.

So, outside circumstances never dictates your feeling.
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Post time 22-7-2009 08:44 PM | Show all posts
Happiness is the collective of success. Success differs from perspective of every individual. Things go beyond human logical state of mind will not bring you happiness.
You will feel unhappy when yo ...
edaladiva Post at 22-7-2009 20:03


What if a person who is always happy without problems and he his fit physically and mentally.
A place for him, I mean does he qualify himself to be in Tanjung Rambutan?
Now this is worrying.....
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Post time 22-7-2009 09:41 PM | Show all posts
lagi byk duit, lagi kedukut....
lagi pandai, lagi insecured...
lagi comei, lagi perasan...
sampai bila-bila tak happy
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Post time 24-7-2009 12:52 AM | Show all posts
success is basically a perceptive verb- so when it is  termed as being perceptive, then it  can be subjected to 1001 interpretations actually - personally is is more to goal -  task oriented kind  of achievement - something that is demonstrable and achievable.

success and happiness - well are they related - they could be if the outcome is  favourable ones.

but then, in life , something we must know life is never one to one , it is always "designed" in thsi state of balance  or equilibrium , right ? so
sometimes success cannot be directly or positively related to happiness..things aren't always  one to one lah dear ...
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 Author| Post time 25-7-2009 04:40 PM | Show all posts
Success is getting what You want, Happiness is liking what you get
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Post time 25-7-2009 06:17 PM | Show all posts
Success is getting what You want, Happiness is liking what you get
edaladiva Post at 25-7-2009 16:40


success is the destination, happiness is the journey.
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Post time 25-7-2009 09:20 PM | Show all posts
We want to things just to get certain feeling. No more than that.
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Post time 26-7-2009 08:26 AM | Show all posts
Money cannot buy happiness, but it can buy plenty conveniences.

--- Chinese's proverb.
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Post time 26-7-2009 03:10 PM | Show all posts
Success is getting what You want, Happiness is liking what you get
edaladiva Post at 25-7-2009 16:40


What a quote..... salute...
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 Author| Post time 30-7-2009 08:43 PM | Show all posts
17# pendakwa

Does it mean that I am successful in making you agree with the quote? Pretty much, if you say you are, the happiness will come along when people appreciated what you did to the life of others.
What if you are not happy with the quote, this does not mean that I'm not happy, it will come back to the end of mind, the ultimate goal of what I did. I may not be successful, but I try my very hard to bring happiness to others and that will make me feel happy even though I'm not success.
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Post time 31-7-2009 04:49 PM | Show all posts
Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success. If you love what you are doing, you will be successful- Albert Schweitzer
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Post time 31-7-2009 09:20 PM | Show all posts
What if a person who is always happy without problems and he his fit physically and mentally.
A place for him, I mean does he qualify himself to be in Tanjung Rambutan?
Now this is worrying. ...
pendakwa Post at 22-7-2009 20:44

well then you would want to know of this psychiatric condition - manic depressive- mania / hypomania...yep
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