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[Tempatan] AirAsia Indonesia (QZ8501): Bangkai Pesawat Telah Dikesan #2428

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Post time 31-12-2014 02:10 AM | Show all posts
akak syak cerita mayat pegang tangan pelbagai itu propa jah, since berita dah jumpat at least 40 mayat pun turned out cerita propa jah.
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 Author| Post time 31-12-2014 02:27 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by bobby2008 at 31-12-2014 02:53 AM

AirAsia flight QZ8501: Was plane flying too slow for its altitude?

SINGAPORE - AirAsia Indonesia flight QZ8501 could have stalled because it was flying too slow, aviation experts have suggested.

The Airbus A320, which was flying from Surabaya to Singapore, lost contact with air traffic controllers early on Sunday morning. A second day of search efforts have ended without any news of the plane being found. It had been carrying 162 passengers and crew.

Mr Geoffrey Thomas, an aviation expert and editor of airlineratings.com, believes that while climbing to avoid the storm it encountered, the pilots could have induced an aerodynamic stall, similar to how the Air France AF447 crashed in 2009.

On Sunday, Indonesian aviation consultant Gerry Soejatman tweeted out a "leaked" picture of an air traffic control screen showing the QZ8501.

"Leaked photo of ATCscreen on #QZ8501, it ended up at 36300ft and climbing but ground speed only 353 knots! Uh oh!," he wrote on Twitter.

An Emirates flight on the same screen was flying at a similar altitude but was much faster at 503 knots.

"The QZ8501 was flying too slow, about 100 knots which is about 160km/h too slow. At that altitude that's exceedingly dangerous," Mr Thomas told Australia's Herald Sun.

"I have a radar plot which shows him at 36,000 feet and climbing at a speed of 353 knots, which is approximately 100 knots too slow ... if the radar return is correct, he appears to be going too slow for the altitude he is flying at."

Flight QZ8501 was initially flying at 32,000 feet. But the pilot contacted air traffic control in Jakarta at 6.12 am local time, requesting to fly at a higher altitude of 38,000 feet and to deviate to the left side of its route in an effort to avoid heavy clouds.

Air traffic control granted the request to deviate to the left, but refused the request to fly higher because there was another plane at that height,The Jakarta Post reported.
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Post time 31-12-2014 02:53 AM | Show all posts
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Post time 31-12-2014 03:40 AM | Show all posts
ejans replied at 30-12-2014 10:52 PM
Banyak2 teknologi yg ade. Kes ni boleh kesan melalu signal henpon by bts je..
Mh370 yg seramai 20 ...

sebab mh370 tu, kalau betul jatuh dalam lautan hindi..memang impossible nak kesan..dalam sangat seabed laut tu

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Post time 31-12-2014 04:28 AM | Show all posts
mreka angkat slide & pintu kecemasan terapung.. maknanya slide dibukak? slide pun brapa org ja yg boleh ada atas tu?
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Post time 31-12-2014 04:36 AM | Show all posts
Decaffeinated replied at 30-12-2014 11:30 PM
mungkin juga hanya ketakutan yg tiada asas.

saya perasan polisi MAS sudah agak mesra sedikit te ...

Kalau MAS yg selalu iols dengar - "sehingga lampu pasangkan tali keledar dipadamkan".
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Post time 31-12-2014 04:50 AM | Show all posts
ultra78 replied at 30-12-2014 08:42 PM
Nampak tegap sahaja jeneral tentera indonesia. Bila tengok jeneral tentera malaysia ketika tragedi M ...

Ko tengoklah polis2 dan tentera2 diorg. Sado2 jer badan. Mgkin sbb populasi banyak, so yg recruit tu ala2 boleh pick and choose the best gituh.
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Post time 31-12-2014 05:11 AM | Show all posts
Edited by limesherbet at 31-12-2014 05:14 AM
geenie replied at 30-12-2014 06:18 PM
sgt marah bila tgk dokumentari tuh. bleh lak kapten nak pegi tido time nak lalu tmpt yg cuaca agak ...

rasanya masa captain nak pi tido tu ok lagi kot. auto-pilot. masa captain tu gi tido yg auto-pilot tu diengaged. tapi depa x prasan. tahla tak ingat dah

*disengaged

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Post time 31-12-2014 05:13 AM | Show all posts
Vokuro replied at 30-12-2014 08:41 PM
arahan totally off itu masa take off dan landing sis.
lepas itu boleh jah guna dalam flight mode. ...

some airlines , especially middle east punya dah ada GSM on board. Boleh guna handphone sendiri seperti biasa tanpa sebarang charge dari airline, cuma owner kena bayar standard roaming fees kalau dia buat call atau receive call kat telcos masing masing, depending on over what country the plane is flying, some country tak bagi. Service 'on air' ini only available above 20000 feet. Kalau naik plane dia orang, as soon as the plane clear from the runway, announcemence berbunyi " you may use your handphone now if it is within reach"...  tak perlu tunggu sampai gate or pintu dibuka.
so yang nak ber sms or wassup tu boleh jer on board in flight.




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Post time 31-12-2014 05:31 AM | Show all posts
bobby2008 replied at 30-12-2014 10:27 PM
AirAsia flight QZ8501: Was plane flying too slow for its altitude?

SINGAPORE - AirAsia Indonesia  ...

expert la sangat...  
kalau True Airspeed dia 403 knots, kena headwind 50 knots, ground speed boleh jadi 353 knots juga.
Emirate tu either guna B777 atau A380, banding dengan A320...



tengok ni, On A330. GS or groundspeed 397 knots jer, sebab headwind sampai 71 knots.

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Post time 31-12-2014 07:01 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
bramantyo posted on 30-12-2014 05:52 PM
mudah2an keberhasilan tim basarnas gak dipolitisasi oleh jokowipret

Hanung?

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Post time 31-12-2014 07:05 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
cancer_files posted on 30-12-2014 03:38 PM
@Kerêta_Angin campur lah bang...mak saya orang Melayu, melayu tanjung balai...loghat o tu...

berarti ada marga di belakang nama awak...

aha...pasal berkahwin campur ni, teringat pulak tetangga di kampung halaman...cuma kebalikannya.yg lelakinya melayu...manakala perempuannya mandailing(harahap)..

mungkin yg awak maksud tu tj.balai asahan ya...kalau tj.balai karimun(kepri) loghat die guna E di ujung...
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Post time 31-12-2014 07:06 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
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Post time 31-12-2014 07:10 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
munchkin replied at 31-12-2014 01:58 AM
Cekap betul terus suruh semua waris senaraikan phone number  tuk try detect signal location.

Mungkin panduan dari kehilangan mh370 juga....
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Post time 31-12-2014 07:22 AM | Show all posts
kelana36 replied at 31-12-2014 05:31 AM
expert la sangat...  
kalau True Airspeed dia 403 knots, kena headwind 50 knots, ground speed bol ...

Tidak mustahil pilot, kerna over pengalaman nya...that he either becomes too bochap...atau too overconfident.......
The logik is...a less experience pilot would take all the pro active precautions and kiasu approach...yes? No?







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Post time 31-12-2014 07:28 AM | Show all posts
Vokuro replied at 31-12-2014 02:10 AM
akak syak cerita mayat pegang tangan pelbagai itu propa jah, since berita dah jumpat at least 40 may ...

Pegang tangan tu sah sah propah jah, mungkin kebetulan mayat hanyut berdekatan/berhimpitan.

Berita 40 mayat tu sempat Huffingtonpost 'pinjam' lepas tu terpaksa memohon maaf berita palsu/info tidak tepat.
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Post time 31-12-2014 07:32 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Vokuro replied at 31-12-2014 02:10 AM
akak syak cerita mayat pegang tangan pelbagai itu propa jah, since berita dah jumpat at least 40 may ...

Mungkin bukan berpegangan tangan,tapi cuma bersentuhan tangan sahaja. Kalau sebut berpegangan tangan, barulah ada unsur dramatik
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Post time 31-12-2014 07:38 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
pentagon: us akan kirim kapal perang yg kedua bantu cari debris air asia...
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Post time 31-12-2014 07:40 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
ketinggian ombak di lokasi penemuan 2-3 meter..
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Post time 31-12-2014 08:06 AM | Show all posts

abisla pasni kereta ni pulak hilang dari radar.

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