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Post time 13-7-2007 09:27 AM | Show all posts
the principles of NLP (understanding these alone can bring remarkable improvement  in performance even the thinking performance?

-the map is not the territory


Pak Aji I tak faham yg the above tu can u huraikan a bit more

I did read a bit about it after the second paragraph my head was spinning....

The                 map is not the territory.
              The                 father of general semantics, Alford Korzybski stated, "A                 map is not the territory it represents, but if correct, it has                 a similar structure to the territory, which accounts for its usefulness".                 What this means is that our perception of reality is not reality                 itself but our own version of it, or our "map".

ada banyak lagik but really this one I don't get..


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Post time 13-7-2007 09:39 AM | Show all posts
pre supposition dalam NLP tu semuanya adalah untuk 'membetulkan' perception yang salah dalam minda manusia. kalau kita faham presupposition tu dapat mengekalkan caragaya pemikiran yg positif. contohnya :  the is no failure only fedback and feed back is simply information --> kalau kita faham benda nih, so kalau kita hadapi kegagalan, jadi ia adalah 'feedback' dari apa yg kita buat. so kita kene lah reflect semula (introspect). dan gunakan ia sebagai sumber informasi masa depan supaya kegagalan itu tidak berulang..

kiranya gitu lah...

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Post time 13-7-2007 09:46 AM | Show all posts

Reply #22 puterikhaleeda's post

thanks for yr explanation.

what does the map is not the territory means?
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Post time 13-7-2007 10:09 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by SleepyFish at 13-7-2007 09:46 AM
thanks for yr explanation.

what does the map is not the territory means?


maksudnya apa yg kita nampak bukanlah hal yang sebenar. contohnya, kalau kita tengok map, ia adalah sekadar map yang dibuat (anggaran) tetapi tidak seperti keadaan yg sebenar.

contohlaaa.... kat dalam map mesia kita lihat macam bentuk kaki lembu, tapi kalau kita berada di mesia... kita mengelilingi semenanjung.. kita tak 'rasa' pulak macam mengelilingi sesuatu yg membentuk kaki lembut tu (hmmmm susah laa nak xplain tpai kalau dapat tunjuk lebih mudah sebenarnya)

dia lebih kurang macam 'dont judge a book by its cover' .... book as its teritory (kene baca dulu baru tau) the cover as the 'map' tengok dari luar je

wallahualam... cube laa baca buku dr ismail tu.. ok laa untuk memula nak faham ttg nlp

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Post time 13-7-2007 10:21 AM | Show all posts

Reply #24 puterikhaleeda's post

ohhhhhh ok puteri...faham sesangat...
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Post time 13-7-2007 05:06 PM | Show all posts
... mengamalkan perlakuan untuk membentuk kelakuan...
Secara dasar, ia boleh merangkum segala bentuk pencapaian, bukan sekadar kelakuan, malah pemikiran, pandangan, hinggakan pengaruh.

Bayangkan sesuatu yang diingini, kaji kaedah dan cara mencapai, dan usaha menggapai keinginan itu.

Kesudahan yang baik akan datang dari permulaan bagus.  Permulaan yang bagus asal dari tabiat khusus.  Dalam hal ini perkaitan dengan kerohanian memang ada.

Bagi Zam NPL ini cuma istilah yang digunakan bagi tujuan ilmu.  Mungkin juga untuk menjual buku...

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Post time 21-7-2007 07:38 PM | Show all posts
eh eh..best ah mende ni
xde sape bleh elaborate lg ke?mcm interesting
sebenarnye npl ni byk diapply dlm bidang kajian ape yek?
linguistic ke?
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 Author| Post time 21-7-2007 10:17 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by obachan at 21-7-2007 07:38 PM
eh eh..best ah mende ni
xde sape bleh elaborate lg ke?mcm interesting
sebenarnye npl ni byk diapply dlm bidang kajian ape yek?
linguistic ke?


dalam semua bidang apa pun , malah kita guna pun kekadang kita tak sedar sebab ada isu subliminal atau kalo islam kita sebut 'fana'

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Post time 22-7-2007 02:53 PM | Show all posts
sempuk In baca benang neh....
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Post time 23-7-2007 03:49 AM | Show all posts

Reply #28 ajinomotonosuga's post

Who's the best? Cleveland?
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Post time 23-7-2007 03:49 AM | Show all posts
Inner change for outer changes.

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 Author| Post time 23-7-2007 06:06 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Agul at 23-7-2007 03:49 AM
Who's the best? Cleveland?


apa tu agul? cleveland tu apa? realiti tv ka? hihihi

yang aku tau mesia kene 5-1,   5-0,  2-0  
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Post time 23-7-2007 07:56 AM | Show all posts
NLP ni bersandarkan banyaknya kepada cognitive psychology. mmm psikologi pemikiran eh dalam BM?

jadi, ia menggabungkan penggunaan pemikiran, perasaan dan perbuatan (cognitive, emotive and behavior) dalam membantu manusia mengubah tabiat tertentu, sikap atau caragaya pemikiran yang tidak berfaedah.

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Post time 23-7-2007 12:13 PM | Show all posts

Reply #32 ajinomotonosuga's post

Kenrick Cleveland. NLP trainer.

macam Bandler semua2 tu lah...

Walaupun Bandler boleh dikatakan bapak kepada NLp tapi komplek sangatlah... susah nak faham...

Sebab tu nak cari jurulatih yang praktikal.
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Post time 12-8-2010 10:10 AM | Show all posts
Salam untuk semua,

My company will be organizing a NLP Certification program some time in October. If you are interested in getting more information on NLP Certification Program please message me in private. Perhaps I can be available to be of any help to you.

Thank you. Have a nice day,

WITH MUCH APPRECIATION AND GRATITUDE

Zamzuri Abdullah
Professional Executive Coach
Certified NLP Practitioner (ABNLP)
Certified Time Line Therapy Practitioner (TLTA)

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