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...infertile women gets more depressed than infertile men...setuju??

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Post time 11-1-2008 02:53 PM | Show all posts
baik punya analogy
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Post time 11-1-2008 02:59 PM | Show all posts
sebetulnya any woman is easily distress about anything di sebabkan depa emotional creature of which is blessed naturally

bukan kelemahan pun, tadak satu tuhan cipta itu untuk keburukan..melainkann kuasa manusia itu degil dengan napsu nya.

saya tak percaya there is any infertile woman.

kalo dah buang rahim tu maybe sebab penyakit..production tlor tu tetap ada. Kalo manusia MAMPU cipta sesuatu macam rahim, so kita amik tlor ibu tuh senyawakan dengan benih suami dia, kendian bubuh di rahim artificial tu sampai baby tu jadi sempurna..ni bukan soal mustahil pun

berkat ILMU , tadak satu pun masalah manusia, time will tell jek..

infertile man?

saya de baca..benih lelaki tu kalo dia dapat kuokan SETITIK MANI saja pun doktor bleh senyawakan tlor bini dia kuokan aaaa tau? Maasalahnya..kebarangkalian.

Macam jima..ada sekali jima dapat baby laki bini tuh, ada berkali2 jima. Ada tak jima cam ibu nabi isa a.s. tu dapat anak? haaaaa camno tuh?

alaaaaaaaa..pompuan, distress camna pun..kalo di pujuk lambat laun cayaq..iyerrrrrr ke banggg aji? iyorrrrrr..percayaalahhhh

king kong ada gepren..the beast tu pun ada beauty...hameed gorka jalil hammed tu pun ada cucu dah.. ni plak jantan hamsam suh pujuk bini dia or pujuk diri dia yang infertile.. berkat ILMU jek seme tuuuuu
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Post time 11-1-2008 06:13 PM | Show all posts
sis balckie.. betul ka tak ada infertile woman?
kalau betul, maknanya, apa yg aku baca slama ni tak betullah
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Post time 11-1-2008 06:42 PM | Show all posts
Good thread...
Infertile...hmmmm...nak cakap apa lg. Mulut org x leh tutup kan...esp the hb side..ade je la syakwasangka depa tuh..
Tapi sy skrg dah relex...sy x ambik pot apa dah...since hb pun dah jumpa bakal ibu zuriat2 dia, and poli is a no for me...
Sy terima hakikat kegagalan sy menangani stress (sampai sy depress!) menyumbang kepada infertility sy, seterusnya menyumbang kepada ketiadaan zuriat hingga saat ini dgn this 2nd hb. Juga antara faktor utama saya 2 kali gugur!
I agree wt cantthink...dan ada benarnya bahawa perempuan yg 'infertile' lebih depress berbanding lelaki 'infertile'...
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Post time 11-1-2008 06:47 PM | Show all posts
ingat citer madu tiga...
"isteri saya izin saya kawin lagi sebab dia mandol..."
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Post time 11-1-2008 10:41 PM | Show all posts
stigma masyarakat.... mentang2 perempuan yg mengandung, semua nk diletakkan diatas bahu perempuan... walhl bukan pompuan ajer yg memainkan peranan dlm membuat seorang baby... hya org yg bangang sains ajer yg memandang salah pompuan kalau pompuan tu tak pregnant...
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 Author| Post time 12-1-2008 02:22 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by dianthe at 11-1-2008 18:13
sis balckie.. betul ka tak ada infertile woman?
kalau betul, maknanya, apa yg aku baca slama ni tak betullah
...experts define infertility as being unable to conceive after a period of 1 year of  trying naturally...even perempuan yang bley mengandung tapi mengalami keguguran beberapa kali pon dikatakan as being infertile jugak...

...apa yang ko baca selama nie??...

...to achieve pregnancy...pompan tu kenalah kluarkan telur from one of her ovaries...and this egg needs to travel via the fallopian tube to the uterus...along the way...kenalah bertemu dan get fertilize with the sperm yang the man shoot tu before attaching to the lining of the womb for implantation...

...kalau ada problem yang menghindari perkara tersebut from happening...then...pregnancy tak kan terjadi...so...maknanya...even kalau ko ada telur...tapi saluran tube ko tu rosak...your egg cannot travel along your tube...so camna ianya nak bertemu ngan pasangannya??...

...kalau tubes ok...telor ok...tapi sperm plak tak kuat...takkan menjadi jugak...kesian telur tu menanti pasangannya yang tak muncul2 di akhir garisan...
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 Author| Post time 12-1-2008 02:24 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mummyslove at 11-1-2008 10:57


Em yg nie... no clear evidence yg say kalau somi mandul isteri x leh minta cerai... but yg clear is kao somi x dpt memenuhi "kepuasan" then can... But still not many women akan minta cerai be ...
...losol dah jawap pong...
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Post time 12-1-2008 12:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by LostSoul at 11-1-2008 01:24 PM
aku rasa infetile tak semetisnye mati pucuk, and mati pucuk tak semestinye infertile.. which one is the worse? mmmm nak compare paling senang:

1. can shoot, but no bullet
2. have bullet but c ...



no 2 so menakutkan!!! even to the wives!
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Post time 12-1-2008 12:37 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 blackmore's post

sebab the irony is....pompuan jgk yg buat pompuan lain merana! why la dunia ni cam ni. kita nak harap kaum kita support kita...but nooooo....dorang lagi curah2 minyak! men..they can all stick together, why cant women??? and sikap pompuan muslim...tak leh buka aib somi kpd public...so org ckp itu ini psl dorang, dorang senyap aje...takkan nak ckp...laki haku nya sperm lembik, sikit? and like tuan tanah kata, bila prob tu lelaki nya, org lain pun senyap. tak de la pulak yg kata...ko kawin lain la joyah. dah laki ko tak leh bagi anak kat ko. if ada pompuan yg buat gitu, kita dgr...teruk betul si joyah...laki dia mandul  dia leh mintak cerai. tak bau syurga tu kang!!

prob with men, esp malay men...EGO! bila ada prob...buat dek. yg parah tu, in denial!  sian bini tu tunggang terbalik, terkangkang sana sini buat tests, buat treatments. cuba la bertimbang rasa skit. suh gi contribute sperm pun react cam nak kena potong anu dorang tu! nak malu apa??? sapa2 yg ingat mandul tu maknanya tak leh perform...we shouldnt bother with their uninformed opinion in the first place! tah la...berbuih la nak ckp psl lelaki cam ni.

haku kenal sorang ni. sian betul. laki dia mcm2 alasan2...klinik tu jauh la, cooperate only if dekat dgn umah aje. dah tmpt yg kat umah tu dah terbukti tak berhasil, try la tempt lain. so last2 minah tu giveup.
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Post time 12-1-2008 12:55 PM | Show all posts
kaum wanita cepat tertekan bila tak dapat memberi zuriat, oshin rasa kerana kita memang di ciptakan untuk melahirkan zuriat, it's inborn into us to be able to care, to love (naluri keibuan tu ada dalam setiap wanita, walaupun it can differ from a person to a person)

the need to nurture something and also to proof that we are a normal woman ( re we can give birth)

this all comes from our structural upbringing that is inprint into us...however modern or successful you are, we are still measure by the community by our ability to reproduced, hence when we married the first thing on the agenda is to produced a heir...I stil prefer the West concept of marriage rather then then Asian one...one which put more value into the coming of two souls, rather then only viewing marriage as a factory to churned out babies

and when they do decided to have babies they are mentally more prepared, and appreciative of their little toddlers

why men are not to bothered about all this compare to woman, because men do not share the same sentiment nor do they have the 'nurturing' aspects that we women are born with
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Post time 12-1-2008 12:55 PM | Show all posts

Reply #29 wifeorg's post

yup, pada lelakipun cenggitu, sbb tu dia tak bape kisah bab 'without a bullet'. as long as he can shoot, that's considered manly enough.. for women, the only proof of her fertility...
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Post time 12-1-2008 01:12 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by wifeorg at 12-1-2008 12:37 PM
sebab the irony is....pompuan jgk yg buat pompuan lain merana! why la dunia ni cam ni. kita nak harap kaum kita support kita...but nooooo....dorang lagi curah2 minyak! men..they can all stick tog ...


apasal ego especially malay men lak haaa? kat arab tu men depa lagi ego..pakistan tu walo 99 percent muslems lagi ego jantan2 depa..bangla mesia tu walo merempat mai mesia pun bleh tahan ego....kalo dah jantan..dia bukan pompuan so ego tu natural ler

toksah nak salahkan agama, salahkan islam plak. pi baca cite nabi tu..tenguk camna ego ke tidak nabi kita tu..bangsa arab quraish lagik tuh..tenguk arab2 sekarang camno

tangan sapa yang rock the cradle? kalo budak jantan tu ego sampai tua..dia tu susu sapa dia teguk? hasil tu camna haram ke  halal? dia di didik camna? mak pi keje sibuk carik makan ke mak depan mata 24 jam?

tau2 dah beso salahkan lelakiiiiii jek yer?

seme salahkan lelaki, ego la itu la ini la..kalo dah pantang tenguk jantan beduit..mata ringgit ke sorga..suami tu tak suke cenggitu..pandai lak cakap kebahagian itu hak aku..so pegi laaaaaaaaaaaa..pih kat jantan berduit seme tu haa kan?

actually pompuan ni mahukan lelaki dia ego..berduit banyak seme tu akan buat manusia ego dan berduit banyok tu ler pompuan kejo, so besok luse dia dan laki dia sama2 egoistik couple....bukan bagus  mana pun, telanjangkan segalanya termasuk harta2 dia dan pakaian..macam laa zaman babies berak lam suor..they are just tanahhhhh baru depa sedor.
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Post time 12-1-2008 01:28 PM | Show all posts
oih aji...bila haku salahkan islam? haku kabor kan in islam, the wives are not to make public the husband's shortcomings, tu psl dorang senyap aje evnthough dorang yg kena sindir itu ini. ish....suka sgt nak marah org la awak ni!
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Post time 12-1-2008 01:28 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by blackmore at 12-1-2008 02:22 AM
...experts define infertility as being unable to conceive after a period of 1 year of  trying naturally...even perempuan yang bley mengandung tapi mengalami keguguran beberapa kali pon dikatakan  ...



betullah aku baca selama ni..
tapi aku pelik bila baca aji kata tak ada infertile woman.. dia blajor kat mana entahle
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Post time 12-1-2008 01:33 PM | Show all posts
selalunya pasal masyarakat yg berpikiran kuno otak sempit lagi suka menyalahkan pompuan dlm segala hal tapi bab laki semua takde salah silap la yg menjadikan pompuan tension...
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