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Peterpan17 posted on 23-9-2014 09:34 AM 
Film tu bg aku biasa biasa saja. Org pompuanlah yg paling suka cerita2 mcm ni. Romantic lah apalah ...
aku rasa cam pnh tgk citer tu suatu waktu dulu....tapi skrg nie dah lupa....lagu2 dia kalu dgr balik mungkin ingat..... |
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Peterpan17 posted on 23-9-2014 09:13 AM
Aku 12 mlm kat Switzerland. Msk dari Stuttgart ke Geneva. Geneva 2 mlm. Pastu gi Zermatt dok 3 mlm ...
wah lama gak ko kat swiss bro.....nanti story kat sini psl your swiss trip....aku pun nak tau gak aper best sgt kat situ, apsal org byk taksub sgt psl swiss nie....selain dari pemandangan yg cantik, aper lagi yg best kat swiss nie.... |
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midori888 posted on 23-9-2014 09:36 AM
aku rasa cam pnh tgk citer tu suatu waktu dulu....tapi skrg nie dah lupa....lagu2 dia kalu dgr b ...
Lagu lagu dari film tu, My Favourite Thing, Do Re Mi, Edelweise 16 Going 17 & byk lg. Aku pun dah tak ingat 
Time kecik2 dulu mmg hafal sgt terutama lagu My Favourite Thing. |
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midori888 posted on 23-9-2014 09:41 AM
wah lama gak ko kat swiss bro.....nanti story kat sini psl your swiss trip....aku pun nak tau ga ...
12 mlm pun dah rasa pendek sgt. Byk tempat lain tak dpt cover.
Aku teringin nak pergi psl cerita dari zaman budak2 yg aku cerita tadilah. Disamping tu aku punya kwn dok kat Lugano. Nanti dia jumpa aku kat Zurich. Aku punya colleague pun dulu org Swiss. Dekat St Moritz kampung dia. |
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Peterpan17 posted on 23-9-2014 09:51 AM
Lagu lagu dari film tu, My Favourite Thing, Do Re Mi, Edelweise 16 Going 17 & byk lg. Aku pun dah ...
oic....nanti ada free aku tgk movie tu.....yg tau Julie Andrews berlakon citer tu...... |
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Peterpan17 posted on 23-9-2014 09:53 AM
12 mlm pun dah rasa pendek sgt. Byk tempat lain tak dpt cover.
Aku teringin nak pergi psl cerit ...
hehe....takper, nanti kalu suka bole pergi lagi....
oh kiranyer ko nak gi sana sebab pemandangan dan sebab nak mengenang kembali zaman kanak2 dulu? hehe |
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midori888 posted on 23-9-2014 10:15 AM
hehe....takper, nanti kalu suka bole pergi lagi....
oh kiranyer ko nak gi sana sebab pemandanga ...
Lebih kuranglah tu. |
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Peterpan17 posted on 23-9-2014 10:17 AM
Lebih kuranglah tu.
hehe.....enjoy your trip bro....pastu share kat sini..... |
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midori888 posted on 23-9-2014 10:31 AM
hehe.....enjoy your trip bro....pastu share kat sini.....
Sure thing. Tp lambat lg. Bulan Feb 2015. Jenuh aku nak tunggu ni. |
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Peterpan17 posted on 23-9-2014 10:35 AM
Sure thing. Tp lambat lg. Bulan Feb 2015. Jenuh aku nak tunggu ni.
ala skrg nie masa cepat berlalu.....rasa baru jer celebrate new year 2014...now dah last quarter of 2014.... |
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bvsf06 posted on 23-9-2014 08:52 AM
care to share entry point masuk switzerland n keluar lalu mana?
n 3 nights tu tido kat mana
so m ...
okay here it is..i start from italy-switzerland-france
florence - milan - spiez = below 50 euro
spiez - lauterbrunnen = below CHF20
stay 3 nights at valley hostel (2 persons, a twin bed room) = CHF198, akan dibahagi 2 jadi sy sorang byr CHF99
jungfrau mountain railway = CHF176 - actually sy tak tau berapa harga betul mountain railway ni tapi sy jumpa di forum travel gak.katanya ni full price.
lauterbrunnen - geneva = CHF76
geneva - paris = the cheapest i can get is 25euro.
Sy ada soalan tentang swiss pass.
1.kalau sy beli swiss pass (CHF204 utk 4 hari - youth), (spiez - lauterbrunnen) dan (lauterbrunnen - geneva) dah tak perlu bayar lagi kan?
2.dengan swiss pass sy dapat diskaun 50% ke utk naik mountain railway ni?ada tak mountain railway yg lagi murah dari jungfrau?
3.cable car utk jungfrau?kat mana sy boleh naik benda tu?kena bayar lebih ke?kalau naik guna railway turun guna cable car boleh tak?
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tabasco posted on 23-9-2014 10:15 PM
okay here it is..i start from italy-switzerland-france
florence - milan - spiez = below 50 euro ...
Sy ada soalan tentang swiss pass.
1.kalau sy beli swiss pass (CHF204 utk 4 hari - youth), (spiez - lauterbrunnen) dan (lauterbrunnen - geneva) dah tak perlu bayar lagi kan?
x perlu kalau guna swiss pass. totally covered. tapi based on ur iti, it seems u pergi geneva untuk connection pergi paris? xstay overnight kan?
ur route lebih kurang macam my route hari tu.
option 1:
ok, if u nak guna swiss pass:
buy train ticket from florence-milan 120 days earlier for 9euro
milan-domodossola (border italy switzerland) for 9euro
so u boleh guna swiss pass starting from domodossola, dah jimat kat situ.
swiss pass tu xsilap kena beli online, i think there would be some charges for delivery.
however, if u only stay in lauterbrunnen, i assume u nak buat mountain activity and pergi popular place.
kalau nak pergi jungfraujoch, swiss pass hanya cover sampai wengen.
lebih dari tu wengen-kleine scheidegg - jungfraujoch : 25% discount (full fare return ticket from wengen to jungfraujoch is chf163)
jadi u kena bayar chf123
cheaper option: of course schillthorn. dapat discount 50% compare dengan jungfraujoch.
But kalau u pergi time summer, takut xblh buat snow activty.
kalau nak pergi grindelwald, make sure u naik train. (route lauterbrunnen-zweilutschinen-grindelwald), its free with swiss pass
guna swiss pass, mana2 cable car kena bayar 50% .
contoh route cable car: wengen-mannlichen-grindelwald (chf57 one way full fare)
brienzer rothorn pon 50%
please refer this map untuk plan ur route with swiss pass: http://www.stc.ch/download/pdf/uebersichtskarte_en.pdf
option 2:
Guna Berner Oberland pass sbb u berkampung kat lauterbrunnen.
from florence-milan buy ur ticket 120 days earlier from trenitalia (u can get 9euro ticket one way)
then milan-spiez, sbb supersaver ticket 22euro one way.
in spiez station, buy 4days- BO pass. 230chf
of course BO pass is a tad expensive than the youth pass.
macam saya, i mmg nak sangat pergi jungfraujoch and hike from mannlichen-kleine scheidegg, so minimizing cost to jungfraujoch is my priority.
using BO pass, semua tempat (including cable car) free up to kleine scheidegg
so using BO pass, cost to jungfrauch is chf60, (chf120 return full fare)
and u xperlu topup apa2 dah kalau nak naik cablecar
during my 4 days stay, kat area gunung hari pertama n kedua hujan dan berkabus.
area interlaken je cerah, jadi i opt for brienzcruise-brienz rothorn excursion which totally covered by BO pass. (cf84 full fare)
Now the exit point, using BO u ambil train to Bern (totally covered by BO pass)
From Bern boleh ambil TGV to paris gare de lyon. also eur25.
lebih dekat dgn lauterbrunnen, dalam sejam lebih je compare dgn geneva.
2.dengan swiss pass sy dapat diskaun 50% ke utk naik mountain railway ni?ada tak mountain railway yg lagi murah dari jungfrau?
hanya dapat 50% for certain mountain railway sahaja.. tapi ada juga yg free mcm mount rigi (dekat luzern)
kalau duduk lauterbrunnen, 2 pilihan terdekat jungfrau (25% using swiss pass) or schilthorn (50% with swiss pass)
3.cable car utk jungfrau?kat mana sy boleh naik benda tu?kena bayar lebih ke?kalau naik guna railway turun guna cable car boleh tak?
takde cable car utk turun jungfrau. hanya train. station utama ke jungfraujoch, kleine scheidegg.
boleh guna route ni: naik train from wengen-kleine schedegg, turun from kleine scheidegg-grindelwald.
or, kalau nak naik cable acr and hike:
naik: wengen(train)- mannlichen(cable car)- kleine scheidegg (hike)
turun: kleine-scheidegg-mannlichen(hike)-grindelwald(cable car)
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bvsf06 posted on 24-9-2014 09:33 AM
Sy ada soalan tentang swiss pass.
1.kalau sy beli swiss pass (CHF204 utk 4 hari - youth), (s ...
wow....sy tak tau pun ada stesen domodossola ni.sy ada soalan tentang domodossola - lauterbrunnen.sila rujuk gambarajah 1 di bawah hehe:(Gambarajah 1)
1. kat atas tu route dia...sy kena tukar train ke atau stay je dalam train? contoh: domodossola-brig train eurocity 34. brig-spiez intercity 831.sy kena kluar dari train ke utk teruskan perjalanan?
2. sy dah tengok trenitalia.com travel date sy januari depan mmg dah boleh beli dah tiket, tapi sy tak jumpa pun harga 9 euro utk florence-milan. paling murah pun 19euro. patut tunggu dulu ke atau beli terus?takut lak kalau nanti harga dia naik balik xde dah harga super economy.
3. swiss pass dan BO ni boleh beli di stesen brig dan spiez ke?in case if i decided to get it at the very last minute. kalau sy beli online, is shipping the pass to my home is the only option?can i just print the pass?xmau la pass tu hilang waktu post ke rumah.
4. domodossola masih dalam italy, swiss pass ni boleh terima ke?sy baca swiss pass ni hanya diterima kalau perjalanan kita bermula dalam switzerland.
jungfraujoch chf123 with swiss pass.noted.schillthorn will definitely on my list if its cheaper. thank you very much for your time and effort to help me in this situation 
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bvsf06 posted on 24-9-2014 09:33 AM
Sy ada soalan tentang swiss pass.
1.kalau sy beli swiss pass (CHF204 utk 4 hari - youth), (s ...
Bro, blh ko tolong tgk aku punya pula. Mcm mana pengunaan Swiss Pass dgn itinerary aku.
Dari Stuttgart kami akan smp ke Geneva. Tido 2 mlm. Dari Geneva ke Zermatt tido 3 mlm. Zermatt ke Lauterbrunnen/Interlaken 5 mlm. Dari Interlaken ke Zurich tido 2 mlm. Aku nak beli Swiss Pass & blh guna kesemua hari disana.
Tp yg aku msh tak faham kat Lauterbrunnen. Nak ke tempat2 hiking. Mana tempat yg ko suggest worth dgn Swiss Pass yg aku ada. Aku nak hiking sendiri dan naik cable car atau train.
TQ. |
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tabasco posted on 24-9-2014 10:23 AM
wow....sy tak tau pun ada stesen domodossola ni.sy ada soalan tentang domodossola - lauterbrunnen. ...
1. kat atas tu route dia...sy kena tukar train ke atau stay je dalam train? contoh: domodossola-brig train eurocity 34. brig-spiez intercity 831.sy kena kluar dari train ke utk teruskan perjalanan?
the fastest route for milan-lauterbrunnen: milano centrale-spiez-interlaken-lauterbrunnen (3 change)
from milano centrale, naik direct EC train to spiez (direction to basel sbb).
ada pukul 725 pagi and 1125 pagi. domodossola mmg ada dalam route tu, so u x perlu tukar train.
di spiez station baru tukar train to interlaken then lauterbrunnen.
2. sy dah tengok trenitalia.com travel date sy januari depan mmg dah boleh beli dah tiket, tapi sy tak jumpa pun harga 9 euro utk florence-milan. paling murah pun 19euro. patut tunggu dulu ke atau beli terus?takut lak kalau nanti harga dia naik balik xde dah harga super economy.
maksudnya, tiket tu dah soldout. florence-milan ni route popular. better ambil yg 19 euro sbb nanti harga meningkat.
cheaper option ada, ambil regional train. tapi boleh beli 7 days before or beli kat machine je. mind u, byk stop or kekadang kena tukar train.
3. swiss pass dan BO ni boleh beli di stesen brig dan spiez ke?in case if i decided to get it at the very last minute. kalau sy beli online, is shipping the pass to my home is the only option?can i just print the pass?xmau la pass tu hilang waktu post ke rumah.
pass boleh beli di brig or spiez station. tapi kena beli cepat sikit sebab connecting time to interlaken around 10 minutes xsilap. no worries, kalau miss ada je train lain in the next 30 minutes. to the extent of my knowledge, no online print option for swiss pass. u may try to purchase the ticket tengok ada tak option tu.
4. domodossola masih dalam italy, swiss pass ni boleh terima ke?sy baca swiss pass ni hanya diterima kalau perjalanan kita bermula dalam switzerland.
domodossola dalam italy, tapi di cover oleh swiss pass
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bvsf06 posted on 24-9-2014 01:43 PM
1. kat atas tu route dia...sy kena tukar train ke atau stay je dalam train? contoh: domodossola-br ...
your post helped me in many ways..thank you thank you thank you 
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Peterpan17 posted on 24-9-2014 12:06 PM
Bro, blh ko tolong tgk aku punya pula. Mcm mana pengunaan Swiss Pass dgn itinerary aku.
Dari St ...
Bro, blh ko tolong tgk aku punya pula. Mcm mana pengunaan Swiss Pass dgn itinerary aku.
Dari Stuttgart kami akan smp ke Geneva. Tido 2 mlm. Dari Geneva ke Zermatt tido 3 mlm. Zermatt ke Lauterbrunnen/Interlaken 5 mlm. Dari Interlaken ke Zurich tido 2 mlm. Aku nak beli Swiss Pass & blh guna kesemua hari disana.
Tp yg aku msh tak faham kat Lauterbrunnen. Nak ke tempat2 hiking. Mana tempat yg ko suggest worth dgn Swiss Pass yg aku ada. Aku nak hiking sendiri dan naik cable car atau train.
TQ.
i'm not sure macam mana u sampai ke geneva, by flight or train?
i assume by flight. btw, stuttgart-zurich is chf 24 one way by train. no direct train to geneva.
hmmm.. imo, easiest way adalah u combine 6 days- swiss pass/flexi pass dengan 6 days BO pass. sebab kalau beli 15 days swiss pass macam tak balik modal je.. chf 762 is a lot. so kena banyak buat trip baru berbaloi. but itu kalau u pergi summer sebab BO pass hanya from may-october.
tapi kalau xsilap u pergi time winter kan?
if i were u, i would go for half-fare card. time winter limited activity especially untuk hiking, byk route tutup. nak naik brienz cruise pun tutup. rasanya lake thun je bukak.
unless u nak buat winter activity, of course byk libatkan mountain railway (di zermatt and jungfrau region).
i rasa kalau guna half-fare card (chf 175) mmg balik modal.
my suggestion
1. check city-city cost
geneva-zermatt - chf46.50
zermatt-lauterbrunnen - chf 86.40
lauterbrunnen - zurich - chf 37.20
swiss pass= free
half-fare card = + chf85.05
2. check mountain railway cost
swiss pass pun hanya 50% discount kalau naik mountain railway. 25% to go to jungfraujoch.
half-fare card 50% to all termasuk jungfraujoch.
so nampak kat sini half-fare card better kan?
unless u nak fokus area bandar and banyak lawat museum, mungkin 15-days swiss pass ni boleh pulang modal.
anyway, kalau u rasa hassle nak beli tiket kat train station, guna la swiss pass.
tapi i rasa sekejap je nak beli tiket tu. yg penting kena tau train schedule so boleh bajet masa. boleh download apps sbb.
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bvsf06 posted on 24-9-2014 02:26 PM
Bro, blh ko tolong tgk aku punya pula. Mcm mana pengunaan Swiss Pass dgn itinerary aku.
Dari St ...
Wow!! byk homework lg aku kena buat ni. Tks for your explanation and suggestion. Aku buat discussion with my wife and some research dulu. Ingatkan berbaloi beli Swiss Pass tp mcm Half Fare pun berbaloi. |
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bvsf06 posted on 24-9-2014 02:26 PM
Bro, blh ko tolong tgk aku punya pula. Mcm mana pengunaan Swiss Pass dgn itinerary aku.
Dari St ...
Aku nak tanya ni, maksud ko during winter BO Pass tak dijual ke?? Jd dgn half fare card tu aku blh pergi kemana di Lauterbrunnen/Interlaken tu? Half Fare Card dgn Swiss Pass tu blh guna apa utk di Zermatt??
Aku dah belek2 td, mcm Half Fare Card lbh berbaloi dari Swiss Pass memandangkan byk aktiviti tak blh dbuat kat Lauterbrunnen. Mmg nak gi museum juga. Jd kena buat calculation balik berapa cost entrance museum & cost in sekali klu beli Swiss Pass. Psl Half Fare Card ni takde free entrance ke museum. Last edited by Peterpan17 on 24-9-2014 05:09 PM
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Post time 23-9-2014 09:34 AM
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