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cik_luna posted on 12-3-2014 09:25 AM 
mesti pak cik adam x sabar nak bukak benang baru
Blh x kalau org lain jah yg buka thread ini Adam x informative...malahan xpandai control situasi....terlalu keanak2an
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annehuda posted on 12-3-2014 09:22 AM
ade hikmah jugak tragedi ni berlaku kt malaysia. kasi bukak mata pak menteri tu skit pasal kelemahan ...
Pak menteri pun terima info dr penasihat..
Harap menda membawa kesan positif |
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r1d3r posted on 12-3-2014 09:17 AM
kalau slow decompression, i.e ada bocor somewhere, pressure dalam aircraft akan turun.. pressure ...
jap aku nk tanya ni.... soalan dr layman.....
kalu plane at 3,500ft -> cabin altitude 6,000 to 7,000 ft ?
kalu berlaku slow decompression, cab alt 9,000 ft(?) -> warning error display & sound activate -> SOP stated pilot tak perlu lg pakai O2 mask sampai la cab alt capai 10,000 ft ? ms ni plane dah kat ketinggian brp? ms dlm capaian radar ke?
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cik_luna posted on 12-3-2014 09:25 AM
mesti pak cik adam x sabar nak bukak benang baru
- dh bukak n dh di solek nokss..sakai sgattt
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rebecca_nur posted on 12-3-2014 09:26 AM
Bukan ke semua pihak bertungkus lumus nak ungkai misteri kehilangan pesawat ni..y lak nak salahkan m ...
Aku setuju dgn idea ko..
Sekadar membantu ko memeriah benang ni. |
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C.K posted on 12-3-2014 09:26 AM
Blh x kalau org lain jah yg buka thread ini Adam x informative...malahan xpandai control si ...
kau pun merapu dalam thread.. lepas tu nak sound2 orang.. kalau ada informasi bglah.. bukan duk merapu dalam thread orang..
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wahai korang..kalau aku kata ada berita sedih dengan mengatakan ianya bukan hijack tapi sebaliknya dah dijumpai kat utara terengganu...tapi berita ni confidential korang rasa camne?
berita sedih...pastu alih2 confidential.....rasa marah ke rasa apa? |
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cik_luna posted on 12-3-2014 09:25 AM
mesti pak cik adam x sabar nak bukak benang baru
menggigil tubuh badan dia..
sudahnya thread kena solex....
attention seeker sgt tingkahlakunya
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C.K posted on 12-3-2014 09:26 AM
Blh x kalau org lain jah yg buka thread ini Adam x informative...malahan xpandai control si ...
aritu pasal mobie, smalam pasal gaji..arini x tau ape plakk
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kelana36 posted on 12-3-2014 09:22 AM
dah banyak kali kau sebut, kena betulkan juga.. jangan marah yer..
satu pusingan mengikut com ...
360 degree turn..
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mana pegi forumer WonBin tu ek...
dulu rumah2 awal dia ada jer bagi info... |
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sian adam thread kene katup. ehehehehehe  |
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Ni aku copy paste dari email:
My recommendation to the NTSB
I sent this email to Peter Knudson (Media Relations) at the NTSB, and he will consider if its worthy of forwarding onto investigators.
At the end of this email, I’ve listed sensible and low-cost recommendations to best aid recovery efforts.
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Has anyone considered if the below FAA Airworthiness Directive could be a clue the MH370 investigation?
A November 2013 FAA Airworthiness Directive for the 777
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-09-26/html/2013-23456.htm
SUMMARY: We propose to adopt a new airworthiness directive (AD) for
certain The Boeing Company Model 777 airplanes. This proposed AD was
prompted by a report of cracking in the fuselage skin underneath the
satellite communication (SATCOM) antenna adapter. This proposed AD
would require repetitive inspections of the visible fuselage skin and
doubler if installed, for cracking, corrosion, and any indication of
contact of a certain fastener to a bonding jumper, and repair if
necessary. We are proposing this AD to detect and correct cracking and
corrosion in the fuselage skin, which could lead to rapid decompression
and loss of structural integrity of the airplane.
Summary: It’s plausible that a fuselage section near the SATCOM antenna adapter failed, disabling satellite based - GPS, ACARS, and ADS-B/C - communications, and leading to a slow decompression that left all occupants unconscious. If such decompression left the aircraft intact, then the autopilot would have flown the planned route or otherwise maintained its heading/altitude until fuel exhaustion.
A slow decompression (e.g. from a golfball-sized hole) would have gradually impaired and confused the pilots before cabin altitude (pressure) warnings sounded.
Chain of events:
Likely fuselage failure near SATCOM antenna adapter, disabling some or all of GPS, ACARS, ADS-B, and ADS-C antennas and systems.
Thus, only primary radars would detect the plane. Primary radar range is usually less than 100nm, and is generally ineffective at high altitudes.
If the decompression was slow enough, it’s possible the pilots did not realize to put on oxygen masks until it was too late. (See Helios 522)
Also explains why another Pilot thirty minutes ahead heard “mumbling” from MH370 pilots.
(VHF comms would be unaffected by SATCOM equipment failure.)
With incapacitated pilots, the 777 could continue to fly on Autopilot - programmed to maintain cruise altitude and follow the programmed route. Using the Inertial Reference System (gyroscope based), the plane could navigate without needing GPS.
Other thoughts:
The plane was equipped with cellular communication hardware, supplied by AeroMobile, to provide GSM services via satellite. However this is an aftermarket product; it’s not connected through SATCOM (as far as I know).
This explains why 19 families signed a statement alleging they were able to call the MH370 passengers and get their phones to ring, but with no response.
When Malaysian Airlines tried to call the phone numbers a day later, the phones did not ring. By this time, fuel would have been exhausted.
Note: 777 Passenger Oxygen masks do not deploy until cabin altitude reaches 13,500. Passengers were likely already unconscious by then, if it was a slow decompression. Also remember that this flight was a red-eye, most passengers would be trying to sleep, masking alarming effects of oxygen deprivation. No confirmed debris has been found anywhere near the search area, consistent with the plane having flown for hours after it lost radar contact.
Conclusion:
This was likely not an “explosive decompression” or “inflight disintegration.” This was likely a slow decompression that gradually deprived all crew/passengers of oxygen, leaving the autopilot to continue along the route autonomously.
The aircraft may be at the floor of the East China Sea, Sea of Japan, or the Pacific Ocean thousands of miles northeast from the current search zone. [UPDATE: Basically, it could be “anywhere”, and we need to use any available radar records to help figure it out. This is where the Vietnamese/Malaysia civilian and military radars will help.]
Recommendations:
• Investigators should obtain data logs from primary radars throughout mainland China that would have been along the planned route. They may be the best clue as to the trajectory of the aircraft. Per the latest reported news, the Straight of Malacca is a possibility.
• Investigators should obtain all passengers’ cell phone log and location data. The timing of the last successful cellular connection (ring/SMS/data-packet) can predict how long the plane was in the air. iPhone/iOS location (GPS) data may be available from Apple if subpoenaed. Android location data may be available from Google.
• Add a secondary search space to include a 300nm radius around Beijing, focusing on surrounding bodies of water. Using planned routing trajectory, known autopilot logics, fuel quantities, and weather patterns, it may be possible to define a smaller 50nm * 50nm search space. Consider running the above scenario in MH’s 777-200ER full flight simulator.
• Boeing should provide expertise about the SATCOM antenna schematics and autopilot/navigation logic, so as to help plot this second search space. |
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kambeng_masam posted on 12-3-2014 09:19 AM
leganyaaa...aku nak tengok perkataan2 camtu je..
Beng, lepasni ko je lah buat summary atau update setiap info, senang, aku dah mabuk info..byk sgt percanggahan
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nampak gaya sistem radar dkt ATC subang hanya ada jenis secondary...manakala sistem radar tentera lak ada 2 jenis - primary & secondary ... tu pasal ATC takleh detect MH370 patah balik tapi pihak tentera boleh |
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rebecca_nur posted on 12-3-2014 04:16 AM
Awat aku dgr smlm dia ckp klantan, nampak lambang wau kat ekot, ke aku salah dgr?
kelantan tu pakcik lain pulak...kat marang pokcik lain...kat perak pakcik lain. |
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gogo2 posted on 12-3-2014 09:15 AM
mula2 53% rakyat Msia bengang dgn Kerajaan Msia.
Sekarang ni satu dunia bengang dgn Msia.
ko baca kat mana satu dunia bengang kat Malaysia?.. paper mana? |
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Lina66 posted on 12-3-2014 09:23 AM
sini aku bitau ... baca dgn hati yg tenang.. tak perlu nak hangin2..
memang ade pon pilo ...
bertuahnya your mum.
kiranya bergantung pd pilot la kan nk pilih sape pada masa yang sesuai utk masuk cockpit.
dia pon boring dok 2 org je dalam tu.
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