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 Author| Post time 12-2-2007 07:33 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sayawifenikmie at 12/2/2007 07:14 PM


tahniah...untung ler kau dapat lap top sendiri...cam aku..hampeh...



dapat apa...
aku TERPAKSA belik...
sebb laptop sekolah tu..
yang derang bagi kat cigu2 tu
hampehhh..memunya aje sorang2:@
nak pinjam punya la kudukut...
aku tertanya2 la pulak..eh ni reta sendiri ker
sekolah punya...
last2 sebb dah tak tahan..
aku kumpui duit..
plus duit bonus...
aku dapat laptop sebutir!
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 Author| Post time 12-2-2007 07:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sayawifenikmie at 12/2/2007 07:21 PM


hu hu usahkan bela..jengok i kat spital pon tak...dah ler cedera masa latih team daerah...hampeh tul org PPD...rasa dah malas nak handle peringkat tinggi ...baik duk diam diam kat skolah.. .



siannya nko....
aku teringat lagi..
aku prgnant..masa tu giler2 pulun utk
hari kecemerlangan...
aku tumpah darah..
aku dapat tengok anak aku 4 hari aje..
(Allah lebih sayang ..aku redha..)

tapi nkorang tau..
boss aku? ucap takziah pun dak..
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 Author| Post time 12-2-2007 07:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by nunnun at 12/2/2007 11:29 AM


ni aku nak tanyer ler..korang buat kerja perkeranian isi borang,  isi data,  kertas kerja tu setiap ari ker korang buat..



data apa yang everyday kena buat ni?:stp:
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 Author| Post time 12-2-2007 07:38 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ajinomotonosuga at 12/2/2007 02:53 AM



pengetua ni apa kejadah keje dia lak? cikgu besor jadik principal bab admin sekolah, guru pi mengajar.

pengetua depa kalo jaga cikgu besor pasal pa depa sibuk kaco cikgu kecik2 lak?



sebb dia tau si bilis ni angguk belaka...
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 Author| Post time 12-2-2007 07:40 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by macademia at 12/2/2007 08:53 AM
Ramai betul cikgu2 pegi exam English Sabtu lepas. (not sure ni 1st group ke...)

Tapi yang mac tak paham (also have been raise in NST) kenapa guru2 yang background English pun harus ambil exam  ...



aku harap orang kementerian perfikiran cam nko...
cam PTK tu..
kalu agak2 tak nak bagi kenaikan or whateva..
toksah bagi...
jgn nak buang duit rakyat lak nak sediakan papers utk
exam tu..:@
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Post time 12-2-2007 07:51 PM | Show all posts
tu ar.. aku rasa dlm dunia pendidikan kt mesia neh. guru yg lebih korbankn masa duit lebih dpd pihak pntadbir/kementrian suma..
aku pun xtau kt mana yg silap..
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Post time 12-2-2007 08:30 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by kazaraf at 12-2-2007 07:51 PM
tu ar.. aku rasa dlm dunia pendidikan kt mesia neh. guru yg lebih korbankn masa duit lebih dpd pihak pntadbir/kementrian suma..
aku pun xtau kt mana yg silap..

:setuju: ....dah istihar cuti/keja 5 hari naper admin nak sgt buat aktiviti sabtu n ahad..hampeh tul....ingat dia org tak anak bini ke?
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Post time 12-2-2007 09:07 PM | Show all posts
hi kawan2 cikgu cikgi sekalian....

Kesian i dgr rintihan u all ni. I pun pernah jd cikgu biasa..then ketua panitia...then Ketua Bidang...and now PKKK. Semua kerja2 tu i dah lalui....for the past 16 years. Ada ceria, ada suka, ada duka, ada sengsara. Macam2 la. Tapi betullah seorang guru tu memerlukan semangat juang yang tinggi. Kena senyum sokmo walaupun dlm tangisan hehehe.

Mungkin tugas guru dulu tak seteruk hari ni. Hari ni dah jadi mcm kerani especially Form teachers. Now that I'm one of the admins...i make sure my teachers will not be burdened but my kokurikulum part only la. Since i have less teaching periods, I ll try to help them as much as I can. So, tak semua admin teruk okay

But dear teachers.....not all okay.....ada juga yg agak manja. Bila dah ditolong....hmmm......take things for granted. Few examples :
1. Perancangan strategik persatuan/kelab - sample given a complete one - berbulan juga nak dpt.
2. Senarai AJK - form is ready - cuma isi nama saja - pun berbulan nak dpt balik.
3. Attending meeting - reasons - anak - don't know how to drive there

I repeat tak semua cikgu ye. nanti ada yg melenting pula. Itu cuma few examples. Like i've mentioned earlier - i tried to ease the burden and there was one year i did the perancangan strategik for them but later i found this is ridiculous. Hey....I was once cikgu persatuan, form teacher, subject teacher etc....I did everytthing on my own.

Reason anak and tak tahu bawa kereta - how could they say i senang la coz anak2 i dah besar2. Errrrr.....my children were babies, children before they are teenagers. Hehehe. Funny right? Ohh....they said it's easy for me coz I have a maid. Hmmm...i remember hiring a maid only when my third son was 4 years old.
Tak tahu bawa kereta? Oh God.....when I started working - I didn't even have a driving licence. I took the iniative to take a bus/taxi and there were times I was waiting for the bus alone until 8 pm. and I first got the licence, tried to drive to the meeting venue..couldn't find....drove back, left the car at home, took a bus.

It's not that i'm asking the teachers out there to follow what i had done before....it's just "WHEN THERE'S A WILL, THERE'S A WAY".

I know many of the teachers do not get full support from admins right? That I understand. Ada admins yg heartless , don't want to tolerate, ask teachers to settle things on their own. And that's why I try not to be like them.

And I'm telling u guys....it's tiring to be admin but satisfaction does come when I look at the smiles on the teachers' face whenever they thank me.

Opppssss.....enough for today. Have a big state level event tomorrow.

for those teachers who are married.....u really need a very understanding spouse being a teacher nowadays coz ur spouse cannot expect u to be home by 2 pm, stay at home on weekends - this one i don't disturb my teachers on weekends. But the sweet part of it coz i don't disturb them, some of them  voluntarily to have koku activities on Saturday once a while.
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Post time 12-2-2007 09:41 PM | Show all posts

Reply #248 KarmilaBalqis's post

thanks...

i rasa cikgu-cikgu tak lah tak nak buat kerja cuma diberi sedikit masa..diberi ruang untuk bersuara...mmg tak dinafikan ada cikgu yg buat "dek" je...yg tak pandai nak tolak ler yg jadi mangsa...yg ni admin nak kena tegas...menidakkan tugas bukan cara selesaikan masalah....akhirnye guru yg buat kerja akan fed-up dgn admin..dalam meeting cakap mari kerja berpasukan....kalau berpasukan semua org ambik bahagian...semua org diberi peranan sama rata.... :tq:
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Post time 12-2-2007 09:49 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by coyotemawi at 12-2-2007 07:35 PM



siannya nko....
aku teringat lagi..
aku prgnant..masa tu giler2 pulun utk
hari kecemerlangan...
aku tumpah darah..
aku dapat tengok anak aku 4 hari aje..
(Allah lebih  ...


emmm sabar ler insyaallah anak demo tunggu kat depan pintu syurga...
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Post time 12-2-2007 09:53 PM | Show all posts

Reply #248 KarmilaBalqis's post

Opppssss.....enough for today. Have a big state level event tomorrow.

hu hu tak moh dah terlibat level tinggi...ada masalah org atas buat dek je...baik duk diam diam....:@

[ Last edited by  sayawifenikmie at 12-2-2007 09:55 PM ]
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Post time 12-2-2007 10:24 PM | Show all posts

Reply #249 sayawifenikmie's post

yup...kerja berpasukan.....that's what i get from the majority of my teachers at my school. Only a few yg dibuatnya.

Diberi masa....diberi ruang....kalau sampai setahun...rasanya dah lebih dr cukup masa yang diberikan. Admin panggil byk kali, minta byk kali, tulis memo....tak sampai2 juga. Bila tanya ada problem ke? Takde pula. Cuma jawapan nanti, nanti, nanti. Ha'ah saya nak buat dah. Ha'ah budak saya buatkan. Tapi itula....selalunya cikgu yg sama aje setiap tahun.

So, bila peluang dah diberi byk kali...rasanya tak payah lah melenting or dengki mendengki bila org lain dpt APC. Kita selalu kata hanya seorang guru saja yang akn benar-benar memahami tugas seorang guru. Bila dah jadi admin ni......i pun nak cakap la....hanya seorang admin saja yg akn benar2 memahami betapa beratnya tanggungjawab yg terpaksa dipikul. (walaupun ada yg kurang or tidak memahami langsung ttg masalah yg terpaksa dihadapi oleh guru2 - itu diakui)

Apa2pun I pasti u all cikgu2 kat sini semua yg rajin dan insya Allah akan ada ganjaran di atas segala usaha murni. Dan I tetap akan sokong cikgu selama2nya.....
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 Author| Post time 12-2-2007 11:19 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sayawifenikmie at 12/2/2007 08:30 PM

:setuju: ....dah istihar cuti/keja 5 hari naper admin nak sgt buat aktiviti sabtu n ahad..hampeh tul....ingat dia org tak anak bini ke?



tu la pasal..
boss aku kata..hak admin utk panggil cikgu
buat inhouse ker...staff developement ker....
hak admin 2 sabtu every month..
tak terkata kitorang bila dengar dia cakap lagu tu..
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 Author| Post time 12-2-2007 11:23 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sayawifenikmie at 12/2/2007 09:49 PM


emmm sabar ler insyaallah anak demo tunggu kat depan pintu syurga...



aku redha...
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 Author| Post time 12-2-2007 11:25 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by KarmilaBalqis at 12/2/2007 10:24 PM
yup...kerja berpasukan.....that's what i get from the majority of my teachers at my school. Only a few yg dibuatnya.

Diberi masa....diberi ruang....kalau sampai setahun...rasanya dah lebih  ...



how i wish i dapat PK or boss yang baik cam u..
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Post time 13-2-2007 08:40 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by KarmilaBalqis at 12-2-2007 10:24 PM
yup...kerja berpasukan.....that's what i get from the majority of my teachers at my school. Only a few yg dibuatnya.

Diberi masa....diberi ruang....kalau sampai setahun...rasanya dah lebih  ...



Kita selalu kata hanya seorang guru saja yang akn benar-benar memahami tugas seorang guru. Bila dah jadi admin ni......i pun nak cakap la....hanya seorang admin saja yg akn benar2 memahami betapa beratnya tanggungjawab yg terpaksa dipikul. (walaupun ada yg kurang or tidak memahami langsung ttg masalah yg terpaksa dihadapi oleh guru2 - itu diakui)

:setuju:  sesangat!!!!
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Post time 13-2-2007 08:44 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sayawifenikmie at 12-2-2007 06:22 PM



bukan ler hari hari...tapi ada date line yg tak masuk akal... ada program data yg benda sama tapi nak asing asing...cth  smm dah ada, tahun ni nak bmm plak....buat program jgn ler susahkan ...


ni nak tanyer lagi ni....cikgu sorang ke yang key in semua data tu...tak ader cikgu lain yang tolong ker..
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Post time 13-2-2007 08:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by coyotemawi at 12-2-2007 07:37 PM



data apa yang everyday kena buat ni?:stp:



aii..tak kan tak boleh list kan kerja kerani yang korang claim kena buat tu.
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Post time 13-2-2007 10:04 AM | Show all posts

Reply #227 nunnun's post

Memang le ada Time base..macm kes ct..
dah mengajar masuk tahun ke 16..
ptk dapat 4,3...tapi kerani ku tak apply time base..
sebab kat sekolah tu cuma 2 owg je yang DG 29...

bila keputusan time base dah keluar..
tanya..dia kata ingat kita x nak time base tu..
hangin ke x hangin??...

Ramai lagi kengkawan yng dah ngajar 20th lebih pun...
x dapat time base lagik..
tanya selalu2 kat kerani kang kene sergah..
maklumlah deme kan 'orang kuat' boss..
boss lebih dengar cakap deme..

kalau kita apply nak beli brg pun ..
bos akan tanya boleh x..
kan deme tu 'boss no 2' sekolah...
kita ni plak ..kuli sekolah...

Pasal melukut tu..banyak pengalaman dah...
kalau kusus2 mesti antar grad..
pape mesti cgu grad..
ada le sowg pegetua tu..
terang2 dia cakap..dia x suka cikgu non grad..
buat le baik mana pun keja..
dia hanya akan pandang sebelah mata je..
ni pengalaman sendiri la..

kita dah pindah randah 9 sekolah..
banyak perangai pengetua kita dah jumpa..
sekolah sekarang pengetua best..lembut..
tapi tula..kene buli dengan kerani2 je..
kita nak mintak kertas A4 untuk keja kusus pelajar
pun kena gadoh dulu..mintak marker sebatang pun kene marah..
mintak fail keja kusus pun kena marah,
abis semua cikgu nak kene beli sndiri ke?
pengsannnn.....
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Post time 13-2-2007 11:27 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by coyotemawi at 12-2-2007 07:31 PM



macademia :love:
sangkyu laling....

kat sekolah aku..
kalu ada bab2 nak interview ni
siang2 admin dah bagi warning..
kena cakap yang baik2.................. aje..:@  



Hehe.... GB pun cakap terimakasih kat mac. Mac pun pandaila kan, use that golden moment to luahkan benda macam ni kat pegawai JPN tu in which I'm not badmouthing the school kan but I'm giving idea on how to improve sistem pengurusan sekolah as a whole, in which is under Kementerian.

Susah sgt ke nak letak satu kerani for teachers in every school? Or maybe buat pilot project. For schools yg ada more then 1000 students aje ke.... or start with 10 school ke... or something like that. Yela.... naik pulak perbelanjaan kerajaan lagi kan.... tapi pada mac, bila mac lihat kat pejabat kerajaan lain ada kerani2 yang dok relax (tak semua).... terpikir la kat sekolah2 yg perlukan tenaga kerja kan......
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