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Scientists Prove That All Religious Books Are Man-Made Nonsense
By B. Delaire 06/12/2011 09:05:00


"Fables should be taught as fables, myths as myths, and miracles as poetic fancies. To teach superstitions as truths is a most terrible thing." - Hypatia of Alexandria (370 - 415 AD)
WASHINGTON DC – USA – Scientists at the Institute of Historical Research have finally released their findings after five years of dedicated research.


The scientists, headed by Doctor Julius Sanreso, welcomed the research findings and said that it would be in the interests of those who believe in such nonsense as organised religion or creationism to accept the fact that religious books were written by men as a control system.


“Just think for one second, if ‘God’ or a ‘messenger of God’ had written that particular religious book/bible, how come the writings only occur within a very limited period in human history? Also, consider the fact, that a human writing on a piece of paper, or a few pieces of paper, is not the word of ‘God’. If they were really written by a universal God or entity, the books would not be limited to some pre-medievel costume drama but would encompass all universality, history, the future and science.


Language is something created by man, not an all-seeing, all encompassing entity. God would presumably be universal and timeless as well as all-knowing, as is the universe, therefore these man-written books and scriptures, are just that, man-written linguistically created nonsense used to control men and women thousands of years ago.


Why would ‘God’ write anything anyway? One must consider the fact that, even now, there are religious zealots and ordinary people still entrenched in a control belief system that is so far removed from reality that it borders on madness.

There is no rational or scientific way that organised religions can have a modicum of truth or factual reality because of the very reason that these books are entombed in the time that they were written.


These books should therefore simply be viewed as limited parables and historical fiction, as well as a lesson in how millions of people can be so easily controlled.”

The research paper also came to the conclusion that reward/punishment religions, as control systems, were losing their grip on most of the population of the world and only a few die-hard fanatics and delusional maniacs were carrying on with the flame of idiocy.

“The game is up for all religions, how long can this sham carry on, with their ridiculous outdated ceremonies? The priests are deceivers, and they need to come up with some pretty radical solutions to their thousand year old magic trick.

People aren’t as dumb or easily swayed as they used to be thousands of years ago, they actually have reasoning powers and can see through the utter nonsense of organised control systems like religion.”

The problem for the world’s political leaders, is that slowly, humans who were controlled for so many years by fictitious writings, may suddenly lose their controlled ‘faith’. This could be quite dangerous, because it would mean that these people would suddenly wake up and realise that they have been fooled for so long by being communally hypnotised.



“We must ensure that the people who have been fooled for so long by fictitious belief systems utilised to control humans do not get too angry when they realise that what they believe in is nonsense written by humans utilising human created language.

This could be dangerous for society, so we must either let them carry on believing their fiction or try to somehow support them when they realise the truth,” Dr Sanreso said.

The research paper will be published in its entirety in 2015.
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Post time 12-7-2016 12:57 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mashimaru83 at 12-7-2016 01:51 PM
FOTHER-MUCKER replied at 9-7-2016 03:04 AM
Asik you je tanya saya. So apa pandangan you tentang agama? sebab 5500 tahun lepas manilusia dah b ...
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sebab 5500 tahun lepas manilusia dah berfantasi dijadikan dari tanah dan tuhan yang kekonon menjadikan manusia Dari tanah itu adalah tuhan yang mereka puja.
Apakah buktinya anda berkata demikian? Adakah anda mempunyai reference nya?

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Saya bertanyakan bukti kerana, jika anda ingin berkata/berimaginasi sesuatu itu adalah Tuhan, maka secara logikalnya Tuhan itu perlulah wujud terlebih dahulu, bukan?

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Post time 12-7-2016 12:58 PM | Show all posts
changepassword replied at 11-7-2016 10:01 PM
Scientists Prove That All Religious Books Are Man-Made Nonsense
By B. Delaire 06/12/2011 09:05:00
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The research paper will be published in its entirety in 2015.
Mana research paper tersebut?


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Post time 12-7-2016 01:17 PM | Show all posts
FOTHER-MUCKER replied at 6-7-2016 09:52 AM
Saya percaya artifak yang ada di dalam museum tu mengikut kajian saintis dan historians. Saya tida ...
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Saya percaya artifak yang ada di dalam museum tu mengikut kajian saintis dan historians.
Mm... sebenarnya kita berbincang tentang intrepretasi mengenai artifak yg dijumpai. Ada yg menganggap ianya adalah lightbulb, ada yg kata ianya bukanlah lightbulb. Ianya bukanlah sesuatu yg pasti. Video debunked yg saya letak tu membawa persoalan kenapa ianya bukanlah lightbulb. Mungkin ianya dijawab secara detail dalam kajian sains yg telah dibuat; disebabkan itulah saya bertanya mana dokumen/reference kajian tersebut?

Maafkan saya kerana kesilapan mengenai Thomas Edison dan penciptaan lightbulb.

http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/denderahlightbulb.html
Sylvie Caulville worked extensively on the inscriptions in the temple. She suggested that in the carvings, Hor-sema-tawy (or Harsomptus "Horus the uniter of the two lands") is depicted as a serpent, a falcon and as a child (Ihy the son of Hathor and Horus of Behedet). According to one myth, Ihy sprung into existence out of a lotus flower which blossomed in the watery abyss of Nun at dawn at the beginning of every year. It is therefore suggested by some that the "light-bulbs" are in fact lotus flower bulbs, mythologically giving birth to the god. Another panel shows the bulb opening into a lotus blossom and the snake standing erect in the centre as a representation of the god Ihy. On the southern wall of the last room, a falcon, preceded by a snake emerges from a lotus blossom within a boat.




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Post time 12-7-2016 01:23 PM | Show all posts
FOTHER-MUCKER replied at 3-7-2016 05:42 AM
Ha bro saya Tolong Google kan untuk you supaya lebih faham tentan dunia kuno. Description dan expl ...

Saya tidak pasti apakah anda cuba sampaikan mengenai 'Egyptian Glass'? Apakah anda ingin menunjukkan bahawasanya mereka mampu mencipta bulb (gelas)?

Saya ada terfikir, jika artifak yg diperbuat daripada boleh gelas dijumpai, kenapa tiada artifak 'light-bulb' pula? Yang ada cumalah lukisan sahaja?



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Post time 12-7-2016 01:42 PM | Show all posts
FOTHER-MUCKER replied at 5-7-2016 05:16 AM
Symbol Tuhan enki Berusia lebih kurang 3500 tahun. Kat atas tu ada lambang bulan sabit.

Ok b ...

Saya tidak nampak isu yg cuba disampaikan di sini mengenai Al-Quran 38:71-72 dan 37:11. Memandangkan ianya benar, maka bolehlah kita simpulkan bahawasanya Al-Quran itu adalah benar, kan?


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Post time 12-7-2016 02:05 PM | Show all posts
FOTHER-MUCKER replied at 9-7-2016 03:04 AM
Asik you je tanya saya. So apa pandangan you tentang agama? sebab 5500 tahun lepas manilusia dah b ...
FM
Asik you je tanya saya. So apa pandangan you tentang agama?
Secara amnya, agama Islam terutamanya memberi petunjuk kepada yg jelas kepada kita mengenai tujuan kita berada di dunia ini dan juga ke mana hala tuju kita selepas mati nanti.

Apakah anda mempunyai jawapan bagi persoalan ini?


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Post time 13-7-2016 12:55 AM | Show all posts
Edited by FOTHER-MUCKER at 12-7-2016 10:00 PM
mashimaru83 replied at 12-7-2016 05:23 AM
Saya tidak pasti apakah anda cuba sampaikan mengenai 'Egyptian Glass'? Apakah anda ingin menunjukk ...

Sorry, You ni bimbo ke apa bro? Bukan kah you yang nak kan bukti daripada saya?

Sebab itu saya buktikan pada you.. ancient Egypt dah kaji universe beribu tahun sebelum Quran diturunkan, ancient Egypt dah kaji bintang Sirius, tetiba beribu tahun kemudian ada pula sebut bintang Sirius dalam Quran. Bukan kah itu semua hanya di copy paste dari sejarah yang pernah ditulis oleh ancient Egypt? Kemudian nabi kata ianya adalah messenger yang di turun kan oleh tuhan kepada dia?

Sama juga dengan yang ini dalam Quran surah 24:35  """"
Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The example of His light is like a niche within which is a lamp, the lamp is within glass, the glass as if it were a pearly [white] star lit from [the oil of] a blessed olive tree, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil would almost glow even if untouched by fire. Light upon light. Allah guides to His light whom He wills. And Allah presents examples for the people, and Allah is Knowing of all things ""

Ancient Egypt dah buat glass 4500-5000 tahun lepas, mereka dah menggunakan batteries masa tu. Battery yang mana pernah digunakan oleh ancient Egypt tu ada dalam British museum. Apa
yang ada  dalam Quran tu, beribu tahun dahulu sebelum tuhan turun kan messengers pada nabi, manusia dah menggunakanya.


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Post time 13-7-2016 01:05 AM | Show all posts
Edited by FOTHER-MUCKER at 12-7-2016 10:37 PM
mashimaru83 replied at 12-7-2016 05:42 AM
Saya tidak nampak isu yg cuba disampaikan di sini mengenai Al-Quran 38:71-72 dan 37:11. Memandangk ...

Bagi saya Quran tu hanyalah di copy dari apa yang ancient Egypt pernah kaji dan tulis dahulu. ((Jangan pula sesiapa kata saya menghina Quran ataupun ada yang rasa terhina, sebab itu yang you nak tau apa yang saya fikirkan tentang Quran))

Quran tu di copy dari manuscript mesir kuno seperti ni, kemudian ada manusia kata ianya messenger dari tuhan! Tapi memang tuhan pun, tuhan Egypt kuno. Tapi Sebenarnya ini bukanlah yang paling tertua, sebab sebelum mereka menulis di atas kulit binatang mereka telah menulis di atas batu.


The oldest known Egyptian leather manuscript, dating back some 4,000 years, has been rediscovered at the Egyptian Museum in Cairo after it was pulled from a dusty, old storage box, where it had been lost for around 70 years. The precious text contains fine quality depictions of supernatural beings which predate the famous drawings of the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Discovery News reports that the manuscript measures 2.5 meters (8.2 feet) in length, making it the longest text ever found. It exceeds the next longest text by just 2 inches D an ancient pre-nuptial agreement between a couple due to be married, which sets out how the wife will be provided for, should the marriage fail.

Di seawal 10-12 ribu tahun lepas(bukan ancient Egypt, saya dah lupa), sehingga ke 3500-4000 tahun lepas iatu ancient Egypt dah kata tuhan mereka jadikan manusia dari tanah. Dan tuhan mereka yang buat patung dari tanah tu bukan Allah yang manusia sembah hari ini. Tetapi tuhan mereka itu adalah manusia seperti mereka juga.
Apa yang saya menerangkan ni secara ringkas je.

kalai you dah kata Thomas edision tu adalah manusia pertama reka mentol lampu, faham faham je Lah kan?

Ok lah bro, fikir ajalah apa apa yang you nak fikir. Kerana ianya tidak merugikan sesiapa.


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Post time 13-7-2016 08:20 AM | Show all posts
mashimaru83 replied at 12-7-2016 12:58 PM
Mana research paper tersebut?

mai buktikan al-quran tu wahyu dari tuhan. pleaseeeeee.....
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Post time 14-7-2016 08:26 AM | Show all posts
changepassword replied at 13-7-2016 08:20 AM
mai buktikan al-quran tu wahyu dari tuhan. pleaseeeeee.....

Let us address the issue one at a time.

The research paper will be published in its entirety in 2015.
Mana research paper tersebut?


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Post time 14-7-2016 04:10 PM | Show all posts
FOTHER-MUCKER replied at 13-7-2016 12:55 AM
Sorry, You ni bimbo ke apa bro? Bukan kah you yang nak kan bukti daripada saya?

Sebab itu saya  ...
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Sebab itu saya buktikan pada you.. ancient Egypt dah kaji universe beribu tahun sebelum Quran diturunkan, ancient Egypt dah kaji bintang Sirius, tetiba beribu tahun kemudian ada pula sebut bintang Sirius dalam Quran. Bukan kah itu semua hanya di copy paste dari sejarah yang pernah ditulis oleh ancient Egypt? Kemudian nabi kata ianya adalah messenger yang di turun kan oleh tuhan kepada dia?
Bagi saya perspektif sebegini adalah tidak tepat.

Adakah anda beranggapan bahawasanya Al-Quran itu adalah copy paste hanya kerana ia menyebut tentang kajian ancient Egypt? Jika menggunakan reasoning sebegini, adakah anda beranggapan apa-apa sahaja buku sains yg ada pada masa kini yg menyebut tentang gelas, Sirius, etc. juga adalah sekadar copy paste daripada ancient Egypt??? Nampak bermasalah bukan reasoning anda?

Memandangkan pengetahuan ancient Egypt itu berasal daripada Tuhan, apakah permasalahannya jika Tuhan ingin menyampaikannya kepada Nabi utk disebarkan pada kemudian hari? Seorang messenger tak semestinya menyampaikan ilmu yg baru sahaja.

FM
Quran tu di copy dari manuscript mesir kuno seperti ni, kemudian ada manusia kata ianya messenger dari tuhan! Tapi memang tuhan pun, tuhan Egypt kuno. Tapi Sebenarnya ini bukanlah yang paling tertua, sebab sebelum mereka menulis di atas kulit binatang mereka telah menulis di atas batu.
Adakah ini berdasarkan kajian sains? Boleh saya lihat kajiannya (perbandingan side by side antara manuskrip itu dgn Al-Quran, etc.)?

FM
Di seawal 10-12 ribu tahun lepas(bukan ancient Egypt, saya dah lupa), sehingga ke 3500-4000 tahun lepas iatu ancient Egypt dah kata tuhan mereka jadikan manusia dari tanah. Dan tuhan mereka yang buat patung dari tanah tu bukan Allah yang manusia sembah hari ini. Tetapi tuhan mereka itu adalah manusia seperti mereka juga.
Apa yang saya menerangkan ni secara ringkas je.
Bagi saya anda hanya membuat kesimpulan berdasarkan pemerhatian pada permukaan sahaja dan bukanlah secara totaliti. Hanya kerana pemahaman mengenai Tuhan itu telah wujud beribu-ribu tahun dahulu, tak semestinya ia membawa maksud Al-Quran itu ditiru.

Memandangkan Tuhan itu wujud dan ada sebelum wujudnya universe ini, jadi ianya bukanlah sesuatu yg pelik jika pemahaman mengenai Tuhan itu telah pun wujud beribu-ribu tahun dahulu.


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Post time 14-7-2016 06:45 PM | Show all posts
Edited by FOTHER-MUCKER at 14-7-2016 11:14 AM
mashimaru83 replied at 14-7-2016 08:10 AM
Bagi saya perspektif sebegini adalah tidak tepat.

Adakah anda beranggapan bahawasanya Al-Quran ...

Bro you tentu tau kisah Virgin Mary ni kan?

Dalam bible dan dalam quran juga ada mengisahkan tentang Virgin Mary ni.

3000 tahun sebelum Christian ataupun 3000 sebelum kelahiran nabi isa, ancient Egyptian dah buat kisah tu. Adakah itu semua kisah mitos seperti kisah hang tuah? Adakah itu semua kebetulan?
Tapi apasal terlalu banyak kebetulan?

Adakah betul apa yang dikisahkan oleh bible dan Quran? Ataupun bible dan Quran di copy dari sejarah kuno mesir?

     




Sama juga kisah kisah ancient Egypt tentang angel = adalah bahasa Greek. Messenger = adalah bahasa English dan malaikat = adalah bahasa melayu? Banyak kesamaanya.

Saya tak mau tulis ataupun menerangkan dengan lebih detail sebab nak suruh you Google dan baca sendiri.


Sewaktu bangsa Arab mengamalkan agama pagan dulu mereka adalah bangsa yang tak tau membaca dan tak tau menulis. Adakah mereka senang Di tipu?


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Edited by FOTHER-MUCKER at 14-7-2016 04:53 PM
mashimaru83 replied at 14-7-2016 08:10 AM
Bagi saya perspektif sebegini adalah tidak tepat.

Adakah anda beranggapan bahawasanya Al-Quran ...

Sebab itulah you harus membaca tentang sejarah kuno mesir, apa itu Sirius, macamana mereka menkaji universe, apa dan siapa malaikat mereka, berapa banyak malaikat mereka,siapa tuhan mereka, berapa banyak tuhan mereka.

Saya tidak membuat andaian sendiri, tetapi mungkin you, Sebab takut dan tidak boleh menerima kebenaran.. ataupun sebelum ini you sememangnya you tak pernah ambil tau tentang sejarah mesir kuno?

You tau apa itu Amun?  kenapa Christian & Islam menggunakan perkataan Amin selepas membaca doa?
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Post time 15-7-2016 10:00 AM | Show all posts
mashimaru83 replied at 14-7-2016 08:26 AM
Let us address the issue one at a time.

Mana research paper tersebut?

mana research paper tersebut?
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Post time 15-7-2016 10:13 PM | Show all posts
mashimaru83 replied at 14-7-2016 08:10 AM
Bagi saya perspektif sebegini adalah tidak tepat.

Adakah anda beranggapan bahawasanya Al-Quran ...

Oh...lupa nak tanya you bro, betulke dalam quran kata haram makan babi adalah word of God?

Ancient Egyptian juga dah haramkan makan babi sebab mereka anggap babi adalah unclean. Apa sebab mereka anggap babi unclean?

Cari sendiri apakah maksud Sebenarnya unclean yang di maksudkan.
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Post time 16-7-2016 05:56 AM | Show all posts
changepassword replied at 15-7-2016 02:00 AM
mana research paper tersebut?

Boleh ke dia tunjukan kepada you?
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mashimaru83 replied at 14-7-2016 08:26 AM
Let us address the issue one at a time.

Mana research paper tersebut?

Terussssss senyappppp?
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changepassword replied at 11-7-2016 10:01 PM
Scientists Prove That All Religious Books Are Man-Made Nonsense
By B. Delaire 06/12/2011 09:05:00
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FOTHER-MUCKER replied at 15-7-2016 10:13 PM
Oh...lupa nak tanya you bro, betulke dalam quran kata haram makan babi adalah word of God?

Anc ...

Mmmmm.....interesting.
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