Is God comprise of One, Two Or Three. One God BUT TWO

Truth.8

[quote]Originally posted by wattttb at 24-6-2006 11:31 PM
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN 揟O SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.

wattttb

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN 揟O SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.

Truth.8

[quote]Originally posted by wattttb at 10-7-2006 09:56 PM
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

HERE I AM AGAIN 揟O SHARE THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.

wattttb

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I AM again to share the TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.

Dear friend, sorry to say to you.
As you said 搑ead careful what is God trying to tell in this verses?? used ur brain, whether trinity or HIS spirit.

Truth.8

Originally posted by wattttb at 31-8-2006 11:43 PM
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I AM again to share the TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.

Dear friend, sorry to say to you.
As you said 搑ead careful what is God try ...

here u go again repeating without proofing ur claimed that trinity is part of God  Head. U  Christians should repent and goes back to true teaching of Bible. The trinity is HOAX. What is the point u shout here and there and telling to world we gathered in name of lord, we sing in name of lord and believed in name of lord but there no truth in u.

Read another Bible verses that God says HIS spirit.

Isaiah 44:3 (King James Version)
3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring


God made double declaration that I and MY spirit = HIS HOLY SPIRIT. Not other holy spirit or trinity. Very simple to understand yet many chruch leaders as many others  do not understand the terms Holy Spirit

Again the Highest God used HIS spirit to bless us not trinity . This show the there two divine beings ONE the highest God know as Father and another is know as Lord Jesus.

Holy spirit is not  trinity . It is GOD spirit that pour upon us

[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 2-9-2006 11:48 AM ]

wattttb

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I AM again to share the TRUTH OF GOD LOVE

Dear Truth 8,

Please

Truth.8

[quote]Originally posted by wattttb at 4-9-2006 09:54 PM
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I AM again to share the TRUTH OF GOD LOVE

Dear Truth 8,

Please

wattttb

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I AM again to share the TRUTH OF GOD LOVE

Truth 8

Truth.8

[quote]Originally posted by wattttb at 6-9-2006 10:04 PM
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I AM again to share the TRUTH OF GOD LOVE

Truth 8

wattttb

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I AM again to share the TRUTH OF GOD LOVE

Dear T 8,

As you said 搖 talking rubbised again and misleading all here.

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 7-9-2006 12:50 PM



u talking rubbised again and misleading all here.

If you still believe the Holy Spirit is the third person, then ask yourself who is Jesus' Father - is He the Most High God or the Holy Spi ...

Thruth8.
takkan masih nak barking the same thing setelah 6 tahun kat sini kotttt!....
Banyak lagi perkara lain yg lebih utama kita boleh lakukan, bukan?

wattttb

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I AM again to share THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.

Originally posted by tiM at 10-9-2006 08:49 PM

Thruth8.
takkan masih nak barking the same thing setelah 6 tahun kat sini kotttt!....
Banyak lagi perkara lain yg lebih utama kita boleh lakukan, bukan?

JESUS SAID '' BUT WHOEVER LIVES ACCORDING TO THE TRUTH COMES INTO LIGHT SO THAT IT CAN BE CLEARLY SEEN THAT HIS WORKS HAVE BEEN DONE IN GOD." (JOHN 3: 21)

MAY GOD BLESS

AMEN

FROM WATT

Truth.8

[quote]Originally posted by wattttb at 8-9-2006 02:18 AM
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I AM again to share the TRUTH OF GOD LOVE

Dear T 8,

As you said 搖 talking rubbised again and misleading all here.

Truth.8

Originally posted by tiM at 10-9-2006 08:49 PM

Thruth8.
takkan masih nak barking the same thing setelah 6 tahun kat sini kotttt!....
Banyak lagi perkara lain yg lebih utama kita boleh lakukan, bukan?

i am not barking . as far as I know trinity nothing but fraud get the fact right.


answere this question:


Is it so hard to understand that the Holy Spirit is the power of the Father that came
upon the virgin Mary to enable her to conceive the Holy One - Jesus the Son of God?
The scripture you quoted - Luke 1:35 - clearly explains that the Holy Spirit is the
POWER OF THE HIGHEST. Read the scripture again. IT EXPLAINS ITSELF!
Ask yourself this simple question: If the Holy Spirit is the Third Person - who is the real Father of Jesus Christ - God Most High or the Holy
Spirit?
Please study Revelation 5 and tell me how God Beings are worshipped  and
praised by the angelic hosts? One, Two or Three ?
When Jesus was baptised, the Holy Spirit came upon Him as a dove, this was just
a symbol to show the presence of God in His Son, God does not look like a bird, He looks like a Man (see Ezekiel,  chapter 1,  last few verses)
Thank you.

wattttb

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I AM again to share you all THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.

Hey truth eight....Do you born again? Unless you are baptized then only you will understand THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE

Well, I pray that One day, you ALL will know that my explanation will be helpful.

THE TRUTH about HOLY SPIRIT

Right smack in the middle of GOD "HIM WHO IS AND WHO WAS AND WHO IS TO COME" and GOD "JESUS CHRIST" is GOD, who is declared to be "THE SEVEN SPIRITS who are before HIS throne."

In Revelation 1:4-5 John proclaims grace and peace from the Godhead (Romans 1:20) in a very detailed way. He declares grace and peace from "HIM WHO IS AND WHO WAS AND WHO IS TO COME." This is clearly the ALMIGHTY (Revelation 1:8; 11:17; 16:5). HE pronounces grace and peace from JESUS CHRIST, who is GOD in the flesh (Luke 24:39; Colossians 2:9). Then, John declares grace and peace from "THE SEVEN SPIRITS WHO ARE BEFORE HIS THRONE."

Throughout the New Testament similar greetings are given as in Revelation 1:4-5, and they are always from GOD (e.g. Romans 1:7; Galatians 1:3; Ephesians 1:2). Why is this significant? Because this greeting is no different, except in this, in declaring grace and peace from these SEVEN SPIRITS, John reveals "THE SEVEN SPIRITS WHO ARE BEFORE HIS THRONE" are GOD HIMSELF.

How could they be before GOD'S throne and be GOD at the same time? Just as THE SON OF MAN is before HIS throne in Daniel 7:13 and HE IS GOD (John 8:28, 58). Just as THE WORD IS WITH GOD, yet also GOD HIMSELF (John 1:1). Just as the LORD GOD AND HIS SPIRIT SENT THE LORD ("Me" Isaiah 48:16).
Isaiah declares THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6-8; 45:6, 21-22; 46:9). Deuteronomy 6:4 (and Zechariah 14:9 and Mark 12:29) announces about this ONE GOD, "THE LORD IS ONE." Yet, Genesis 1:26-27 reveals this oneness is in the plural form. There is more to GOD than just one being.

Likewise, Ephesians 4:4 declares THERE IS ONE SPIRIT. Yet, there is THE SPIRIT OF THE FATHER (Matthew 10:20) and the SPIRIT OF HIS SON (Galatians 4:6), and there are the SEVEN SPIRITS (Revelation 1:4). ALL OF THESE DESCRIBE THE ONE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD.

We may well see the SPIRIT OF THE FATHER as THE HOLY SPIRIT (Matthew 10:20/Mark 13:11), and the SPIRIT OF HIS SON as the HOLY SPIRIT (John 7:39; 14:16-18; Romans 8:9), but the SEVEN SPIRITS are the Holy Spirit? YES indeed, and this is no new news.
In the Old Testament in the tabernacle of GOD, the LORD told Moses to make things that were a "copy and shadow of the heavenly things" (Hebrews 8:5; 9:23). One of those things Moses was instructed to make was A LAMPSTAND WITH SEVEN LAMPS (Exodus 25:31-37; 37:17-23). THIS LAMPSTAND REPRESENTED THE HOLY SPIRIT (see below).

In the tabernacle, there was one lampstand, and this one lampstand had seven lamps (Exodus 25:37; 37:23). This was a copy, a shadow, of the one HOLY SPIRIT (lampstand), who has seven Spirits (seven lamps). Moses made the divinely instructed man-made copy (shadow). John saw the heavenly reality.
And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD. (Revelation 4:5)

John saw the "EVERLASTING BURNINGS" (i.e. God, Isaiah 33:14), SEVEN LAMPS OF FIRE, and tells us they are the SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD.
Zechariah also writes of the LAMPSTAND, SEVEN LAMPS, AND SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD.
And he said to me, "What do you see?" So I said, "I am looking, and there is a lampstand of solid gold with a bowl on top of it, and on the stand SEVEN LAMPS with seven pipes to the SEVEN LAMPS. Two olive trees are by it, one at the right of the bowl and the other at its left." So I answered and spoke to the angel who talked with me, saying, "What are these, my lord?" Then the angel who talked with me answered and said to me, "Do you not know what these are?" And I said, "No, my lord." So he answered and said to me:

"This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: 'NOT BY MIGHT NOR BY POWER, BUT BY MY SPIRIT,' says the LORD OF HOSTS." (Zechariah 4:2-6)
Later in the chapter, in verses 11-14 the two olive trees are described as representing "the two anointed ones, who stand beside the LORD OF THE WHOLE EARTH" (see Revelation 11:4). So verses 11-14 explain who the two olive trees are. Verse 10 describes the lampstand with the seven lamps:
For THESE SEVEN rejoice to see the plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel. THEY ARE THE EYES OF THE LORD, which scan to and fro throughout the whole earth. (Zechariah 4:10)

"THESE SEVEN" in the context are the seven lamps of the lampstand of verse 2, and they are here described as the "EYES OF THE LORD" (i.e. part of God). Jesus Christ, who is God, is seen in Revelation as having these same eyes:
And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, STOOD A LAMB as though it had been slain, having SEVEN HORNS AND SEVEN EYES, which are THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD sent out into all the earth. (Revelation 5:6; see also Zechariah 3:9; Revelation 3:1)
The seven "sent out into all the earth" (Revelation 5:6) and the seven "which scan to and fro throughout the whole earth" (Zechariah 4:10) are the same SEVEN EYES OF THE LORD WHICH ARE THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD. Thus, when Zechariah is compared with Revelation, it is evident that the LAMPSTAND WITH THE SEVEN LAMPS REPRESENT THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD.

Zechariah also reveals that THE LAMPSTAND WITH THE SEVEN LAMPS, THAT IS, THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH THE SEVEN SPIRITS, IS THE LORD HIMSELF. Zechariah 4:14 declares the TWO ANOINTED ONES "stand beside the LORD of the whole earth." In the context, what are they standing beside? They are standing by THE LAMP WITH THE SEVEN LAMPS (Zechariah 4:2-3). In other words, THE LAMP WITH THE SEVEN LAMPS IS THE LORD. Therefore, the HOLY SPIRIT WITH THE SEVEN SPIRITS IS GOD.

MAY GOD OPEN OUR HEART, MIND AND SOUL TO UNDERSTAND HIS WISDOM.

AMEN

FROM WATT

[ Last edited by  wattttb at 23-9-2006 12:00 AM ]

Kesiannnnn.
Dia masih terbawa-bawa mentaliti Islamnya itu ke dlm kristian.
Ke mana tumpahnya kuah kalau tidak ke nasi.....
Buluh sudah dilentur dari rebungnya. cuma dia bersalin kulit... Bengkoknya masih seperti acuannya.

Masih tidak mampu lagi menerima akan pengertian Jesus menyerahkan nyawanya di atas kayu salib, menyerah pada kebencian manusia padaNya. bayangkan kalau Jesus mempertahankan kebenaran.. Mungki dia jadi hiro Jihad seperti Muhamad? Atau membawa pengikut2nya melarikan diri dari seperti Musa?....

Truth.8

Originally posted by wattttb at 22-9-2006 11:51 PM
We may well see the SPIRIT OF THE FATHER as THE HOLY SPIRIT (Matthew 10:20/Mark 13:11), and the SPIRIT OF HIS SON as the HOLY SPIRIT (John 7:39; 14:16-18; Romans 8:9), but the SEVEN SPIRITS are the Holy Spirit? YES indeed, and this is no new news ...

Have u finised reading my whole topic from begining? I guess not because u not showing any interest to know the truth. shame on you.



The first chapter reveals the glorified appearance of
Jesus Christ. He is declared as Alpha and Omega on
several occasions. This unveils His eternity - He was there
to start the creation and He will be there to complete the
creation. He is Yahweh, El Shaddai and Elohim !

Chapter Four briefly describes God the Father's
appearance. He is pictured as a Supreme Heavenly Ruler
sitting on the Throne controlling the entire universe. He is
called the Lord God Almighty and He is responsible for the
existence of all created things. He is the Supreme One !

The 7 lamps of fire burning before His Throne are not
a symbol of the Holy Spirit, but they are 7 spirits - 7 special
or elect angelic beings - who live close to God and who are
sent out by Him to accomplish important missions. Rev. 8:2
unveils these 7 spirits are actually 7 angels who carry out
God's final wrath on a sinning human race.

Chapter 5 pictures a slain lamb before God's Throne.
He is worshipped and exalted and His Name is placed
along with the Lord God Almighty in heavenly benediction
(Rev.5:13,7:10).

The Lamb of course is CHRIST, and the Lord God
Almighty is the FATHER, these TWO PERSONS are
worshipped, praised, exalted, blessed and glorified.WHY?

Because these Two Individuals are ETERNALLY
LIVING ALMIGHTY BEINGS - THEY ARE GOD !
No revelation is given of the Holy Spirit, no
appearance described, no prayer of thanksgiving or praise
offered.

Why?






The final revelation of the Bible 7 the Book of
Revelation - makes it clear and definite the Holy Spirit IS
NOT A PERSONAL BEING like God and the Lamb !

The theme of God and the Lamb runs constantly
throughout the book of Revelation. In the holy city - New
Jerusalem - there is the THRONE OF GOD AND THE
THRONE OF THE LAMB (Rev.22:l,3).

God the Father has a throne, the Son of God has a
throne, BUT THERE IS NO THRONE FOR THE HOLY
SPIRIT !

Revelation 22: 1 explains everything you need to know
about the Godhead : "And he showed me a pure river of
water, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of God
and of the Lamb."

Apostle John sees TWO THRONES : God is One
Person sittmg on one Throne and Christ is the other Person
sitting on the other Throne. The Holy Spirit has no Throne !
The Holy Spirit is not seen as a person but as a river of
water of life coming out from the Two Thrones. The Book
of Revelation explains it in crystal-clear fashion : There are
Two God Beings and the Holy Spirit is the Power of life
issuing from Them.
The Book of Revelation also makes it clear personal
salvation is found only in TWO INDIVIDUALS : God and
the Lamb (7:10).

The verdict : THERE IS NO TRINITY !

Those who teach a triune-God or one-Person God are
adding or subtracting from the word of God ! They say
three or just one when the Book of Revelation and the rest
of the Bible says TWO!





Note :

The Feast of Trumpets depicts nothing less than the return of Jesus Christ to earth to establish the Kingdom of God! The book of Revelation reveals a sequence of earth-shaking events depicted by angels sounding a series of seven trumpet blasts. The seventh angel's sounding of the last trumpet signifies that "the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ" (Revelation 11:15). The return of Jesus Christ stands as the final and most significant event associated with the blowing of the prophetic trumpets. Of all the prophecies in the Bible, this one surely heralds the most exciting news possible for this weary, sin-filled world!

[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 23-9-2006 01:22 PM ]

Truth.8

Originally posted by tiM at 23-9-2006 12:33 PM
Kesiannnnn.
Dia masih terbawa-bawa mentaliti Islamnya itu ke dlm kristian.
Ke mana tumpahnya kuah kalau tidak ke nasi.....
Buluh sudah dilentur dari rebungnya. cuma dia bersalin kulit... Bengkoknya masih seperti acuannya.

Masih tidak mampu lagi menerima akan pengertian Jesus menyerahkan nyawanya di atas kayu salib, menyerah pada kebencian manusia padaNya. bayangkan kalau Jesus mempertahankan kebenaran.. Mungki dia jadi hiro Jihad seperti Muhamad? Atau membawa pengikut2nya melarikan diri dari seperti Musa?....
...

kesimpulan triniti adalah fraud  & mereka gagal memberi keterangan lanjut siapa itu triniti. dlm Revelation tiada menyebut Holy Spirit adalah orang yg ketiga.

siapa kesian?  yg otak dah korup.

kenapa awak tidak jawap soalan yg saya bagi?? kesian betul trinity punya orang bila kita nak soal mereka , mereka seolah-olah ke tandusan idea.

[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 23-9-2006 01:17 PM ]

wattttb

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

Here I AM again to share you all THE TRUTH OF GOD LOVE.

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 23-9-2006 01:08 PM



kesimpulan triniti adalah fraud  & mereka gagal memberi keterangan lanjut siapa itu triniti. dlm Revelation tiada menyebut Holy Spirit adalah orang yg ketiga.

siapa kesian?  yg otak d ...

T 8..

Your explanation is your own opinion and that is your own idea.


THE WORD OF GOD IS SPIRIT, PERFECT, PURE, AND NO CORRUPTION, that why JESUS said "WHAT IS BORN OF FLESH IS FLESH AND WHAT IS BORN OF SPIRIT IS SPIRIT"

We cannot interpret the WORD OF GOD using our corrupted mind or our own idea
What is corrupted mind???  The answer is "Living in the darkness" and every human being on earth born with corrupted mind..

If we in the darkness, we cannot see the pathway, we need " LIGHT" so that we see thing clearly. But where to get THE LIGHT, we  MUST follow all JESUS instruction for HE IS THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD.

Please review my message...

MAY GOD FORGIVE US AND HAVE MERCY ON US.

AMEN

FROM WATT.

[ Last edited by  wattttb at 24-9-2006 02:03 AM ]

Truth.8

Originally posted by wattttb at 24-9-2006 01:55 AM
Your explanation is your own opinion and that is your own idea.

wrong, i do not give my own opinion but trinity are. I have quote based Bible verses to support my claimed but trinity claimed this and that based on their own view.

u even said that 7 spirit is holy spirit but I wrote the 7 spirit are angelic spirit based on Bible verses. read above what i wrote on 7 spirit.