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164# glider
dapatkan sangkar kan sesuai untuk sugar glider..
3kaki tinggi adalah minima....
buang sangkar tempurung tu beb..memang tak sesuai giler......
setup yng ada tu hanya wat str ...
lori Post at 20-8-2009 07:27
Apsal plak tempurung kelapa tu tak sesuai utk SG tido?
So far memang dia duk tido dlm tu... lena sungguh dr pagi sampai la kol 9 mlm baru kuar tempurung utk mkn...
Owner lama pun mmg letak tempurung dlm cage SG & mmg jadi tempat tido dia... siap dapat baby SG sampai 8-9 ekor tuuuu... |
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Apsal plak tempurung kelapa tu tak sesuai utk SG tido?
So far memang dia duk tido dlm tu... lena sungguh dr pagi sampai la kol 9 mlm baru kuar tempurung utk mkn...
Owner lama pun mmg letak tempurung dlm cage SG & mmg jadi tempat tido dia... siap dapat baby SG sampai 8-9 ekor tuuuu....
glider Post at 20-8-2009 20:06
tempurung kelapa biasanya digunakan oleh breeders yang bukan bertujuan untuk 'membela' tapi membiakkan sugar glider.
biasanya kulit/bulu sg akan menjadi kotor akibat dari persekitaran dalam tempurng tersebut.
meletakkan sleeping pouch adalah bertujuan
1.memudahkan proses bonding.boleh letak kan kain yg ada scent kita kedalam sleeping pouch tersebut...
siap dapat baby 8-9 ekor?dari sepasang glider yg ko ada tu?berapa umur sepasang glider tu?...bela sugar glider dengan niat untuk membiak?
mereka sepatutnya membiak dalam sekali setahun,bukan lepas dapat baby, biak kan lagi.
macamana dengan nutrien baby itu?ada yang mati?
aku sure ko tak feed glider tu dengan mana-mana diet macam HPW atau gliderslurp or BML diet kan?
berapa berat seekor glider tu sekarang? |
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pernah mention yang glider betina tu ada baby dlm pouch tu kan?
berapa ekor dalm pouch tu sekarang?
ada yang mati? |
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aku quote dari laman lowyat/petwonderland/suger thread
coconut shell will absorb the pee and poo then will stink..this will also cause more staining to ur glider..
if it's a pouch can wash easily..
coconut is also like wood and may have parasites and it's hard not so comfy to sleep |
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here are mainly 3 reasons why we don encourage people to use coconut shell.
1) Stain
- Your glider will turn brownish. Is normal for glider to change color to faded black or brownish when they grow elder or when you put two glider together. However, using coconut shell will not only stain the upper coat but also the stomach hair.
- Sometimes it's bit hard for us to differentiate whether a brown color glider is because of other species? stained? or it's red color series glider?
- But stained glider will hav dull dark brown color, while the natural brown color will be shinnier.
2) Bacteria/Hygiene
- is very hard for us to clean the coconut thoroughly. Just imagine, using water only to wash the coconut shell, definitely it would not clean everything because the shell absorb the urine.. And bacteria will started to grow from time to time because the urine stays underneath the coconut fiber.
- You might suggest to use disinfectant or dettol to clean in order to kill all the bacteria. But think again, the coconut fibre absorb liquid and it's really hard to clean/rinse. What if the dettol or disinfectant you used stay within the fibre, and what would happen if ur glider chew it?
- Coconut shell can be a good habitat for bacteria and at the end of the day bacteria infection will happen esp on female's pouch. Not to forget other parasites such as mites or protozoa.
3) Shell Protective/Defensive
- As ck mentioned, glider will become more shell protective. I nid to clarify that when u use both coconut shell or pouch, the glider will also tend to be shell/pouch protective.
- The difference here is HOW you get the glider out of the shell/pouch.
- For coconut shell, you definitely nid to put ur hand in and catch them or u hav to take the whole shell out and pour them out. Imagine, u r sleeping and suddenly a big giant hand comes in from the only window in ur room and catch u..scary, huh? End up ur glider will be more and more stress and defensive..
- For pouch, is much easier for us to take glider out. Jus squeeze them from bottom slowly. Or you can hold the pouch and let the glider feel ur temp, smell or etc first before take them out..
- Therefore, toothpaste squeezing method will gradually reduce their fear and defensive bahavior, they slowly learn you r nt danger. But, using shell will slowly increase their fear and make them more defensive, because from time to time u jus keep stressing them up.
Other criteria such as comfortableness, safeness (fibre may poke female pouch) or etc shud put in consideration too.
We can use polished coconut shell as decoration or toy.. but for sleepin purpose i will prefer to stick with pouches.. |
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pernah mention yang glider betina tu ada baby dlm pouch tu kan?
berapa ekor dalm pouch tu sekarang?
ada yang mati?
lori Post at 21-8-2009 08:20
Ok let me explain...
Ex-owner of my SG beli from her frend last year...
So drp 1 pair (sekor jantan sekor betina), the SG beranak pinak....
Masa kawe beli drp dia, ade 7 ekor semuanya dalam 1 cage...
So kawe beli yg parents nyer....
Since last 4-5 days, baby SG tu dah kuar from the pouch, ade sekor jer... tapi dia belum pandai makan sendiri, masih menyusu...
So far ade bagi SG tu makan dalam bentuk pallet, juga ade bagi fruits & mealworm yg macam kawe pernah bgtau before...
Buat mase ni memang nak biakkan dulu supaya generasinya stable... maklumlah kalau dibuatnyer ade yg mati, boleh la backup dgn anak2nyer... kalau tak nanti nak kena beli yg baru plak utk jadikan partner, costly tu beb... Kawe suka bela peliharaan ni berpasang2n... Biar hidupnyer complete... ade parents, ade baby, ade cucu, ade cicit...
But interm of food & diet, I need to learn more... Lagipun kat my area mmg tak banyak supply the right food... mostly kat KL.. |
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nasihat gua:
hentikan bagi makan dalam bentuk pallet tu.seriusly beb....life span sugar glider akan jadi pendek.mati cepat
perbanyakkan buah-buahan+sayur.ikut list yang aku dah bagi dulu tu.
sugar glider hidup lama..10-15 tahun..dia mati pun oleh kerana kita tak beri dia makan yang berkhasiat.
hati-hati nak breed sugar glider..mostly, penternak yang beretika hanya biakkan glider sekali setahun..kerana tahap penjagaan baby,ibu glider itu sendiri teramat rumit.
ko mention tempat ko payag nak dapat supply the right food, then jgn amik risiko nak breed banyak-banyak..
elakkan dari anak-anak glider itu mengawan sesama sendiri untuk mengelakkan masalah penyakit genetik.
duk kelate ker? |
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172# lori
Pallet food tu pon biasenya SG mkn cuma kuaci jer... sedangkan kuaci pon x elaok utk SG kan...
Anyway mmg dah stop bagi pallet food tu dah...
La ni bagi fruits jer...
Meal worm pon bagi selang 2 hari...
SG tu duk dlm cage dgn pasangannya, so camner nak tahan drp mrk pregnant erk?
Kawe tak sanggup nak biarkan dia hidup berasingan... kesian beb hidup sorang2... |
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fruits ngan sayuran ek..ikut list yg diberi dulu tu..
biasakalau kat KL ada dua klinik yg menawarkan khidmat neuter glider jantan..kira kasi mandul laa....
neuter ni bertujuan untuk elak dia menghasilkan baby dan sekaligus mengurangkan bau glider jantan yg agak mengancam... |
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fruits ngan sayuran ek..ikut list yg diberi dulu tu..
biasakalau kat KL ada dua klinik yg menawarkan khidmat neuter glider jantan..kira kasi mandul laa....
neuter ni bertujuan untuk elak dia men ...
lori Post at 21-8-2009 18:43
Laaaaaaaaaaaa kenapa sampai perlu dimandulkan... OH NO...
Kawe prefer my SG membiak..
Tu la nak kena baca lagi the list... |
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Laaaaaaaaaaaa kenapa sampai perlu dimandulkan... OH NO...
Kawe prefer my SG membiak..
Tu la nak kena baca lagi the list...
glider Post at 21-8-2009 19:34
1. membiakkan SG bukan suatu benda yg mudah..joey rejection,pemakanan,diet,penjagaan..macam2 kena pelajari.
secara personal , aku tak galak biak terlalu banyak untuk menjaga kualiti dan habitatnya sendiri.
2 glider dewasa+1 baby glider= sangkar 4kaki tinggi..atau lebih dari itu.sangkar yang kecil akan menambah tekanan pada glider tersebut.
aku tak pasti saiz sangkar yang ko ada dan aku juga harap size2 glider yang ko ada sekarang tidak terlalu kecil/kurus.
kalau yg ada tu pun kecil dan kurus, jangan biakkan lagi.tumpukan usaha untuk menambahkan protein/zat pada glider yang ada tu.
tolong post gambar glider yang ko ada tu ek?aku harap sangat2 kerana aku rasa penting untk melihat sejauh mana saiz glider tersebut.kita boleh buat perbandingan kelak.
boleh emailkan kat aku juga |
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check out the below list..
1) Apple - OK mostly edible, but can get boring too.
2) Fragrance Pear - A bit more expensive than normal pear, but juicy and they seem to like it so much.
3) Honeydew - OK, but a lil' smelly when leave overnight.
4) Rock Melon - OK.
5) Kiwi - So-so.
6) Dragonfruit (white) - Some will like it, but will become messy with the seeds all over.
7) Water Chestnut - So-so.
8) Mango - Lovable by most.
9) Ciku - OK lar, a lil smelly, also the poo smelly.
10) Jackfruit - Some will like, some will not.
11) Jambu Air Madu - So-so, a lil smelly, also the poo smelly.
12) Jambu Air - Some will like, some will not.
13) Cherry - So-so.
14) Strawberry - OK and so-so.
15) Rambutan - They can finish it in 30 mins! But a bit smelly also.
16) Sengkuang - So-so.
17) Lai - OK.
18) Papaya - OK, but the poo will turn orange and *phew* smelly lor.
19) Watermelon - OK, but if left overnight will become smelly and the poo will turn red.
20) Carrots - So-so.
21) Sweet Pea - OK.
22) Cherry Tomatoes - So-so.
23) Sawi - Some will like, some will not.
24) Guava - So-so. |
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suppliment for sugar glider
nak tny ne..sapew th kat mn blh cari pellet sugar glider pd harga yg berpatutan |
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nak tny kat mn blh dpt kan pellet sugar glider dgn harga yg berpatutan |
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avoid bagi makan pallet pada sugar glider...kebanyakkannya adalah makan untuk anjing!!!...
kalau nak cari macam 'monkey biscuit' try layari www.petshack.com.my
boleh beli online atau gi kedai mereka kat mentari business center PJ.. |
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sape nak bg aku sekor SG?..heheheh.. |
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klu ada sapew2 nak bl sugar glider aku blh tlg cr kan... harga dlm rm250 jew |
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klu ada sapew2 nak bl sugar glider aku blh tlg cr kan... harga dlm rm250 jew
medstudentz Post at 27-8-2009 14:26
nak cari kan boleh, tapi pastu main jual jer tanpa ada bimbingan penjagaan sugar glider?
lu jual underage joey?
berapa OOP?
apa diet glider yg lu nak jual?
Parent sugar glider tu tinggal dalam apa?
pakej jual glider sahaja?
bagi makan glider apa?jangan laa pulak kata pallet atau epal sahaja..
jang sebarang beli beb.... |
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dlm chat ne kan dah diajar cr penjagaan... apew yg susah... ko igt sugar glider dlm hutan tu dpt mkn yg sedap2 kew. entah2 diorg tu mkn apew jew yg ada.. ne mkn ne xblh tu xblh... bg apew pun blh tp jgn berlebihan... org pun klu mkn xseimbang blh sakit.. ini org nak tlg cr kan SG yg murah bkn nak bg support or bg advise... ne tau blaim jew... ne lah sifat melayu mkn layu |
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sabar sabar semua....
yalah nak bela SG ni kene tau semua diet dia..mase nak beli tu kite kene check sendiri... |
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