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Untold History : Johor Battery - The Biggest Guns in the East (P13.. WTF??)
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phase I ---> 1933 (including 3 big guns)
phase II ---> 1935 (includes another 2 big guns)
donation ---> 1935...
ikut timeline... make sense duit donation tu utk tampung keseluruhan kos installation...
maybe utk 2 big guns.. scr total.. 400k cukup.. |
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but big guns xde mass production...
halimi78 Post at 25-11-2010 17:36 
pulaaakkkk.. mcm tu |
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phase I ---> 1933 (including 3 big guns)
phase II ---> 1935 (includes another 2 big guns)
donation ...
halimi78 Post at 25-11-2010 17:41
in that case laa kan..
kene semak balik authenticity document tu.. thun brape ditulis and source.. then bandingkan dgn document dari queen's office |
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Reply 322# unekspekted_III
rifle yg mass produce tu pong masa tgh perang... bkn sblm perang...
ni construct sblm perang... cane nak guna analogi tu? |
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Reply 323# unekspekted_III
xpe.. sambil2 tu tepek la dulu dokumen yg bgtau meriam2 tu xleh pusing ke johor sbb arahan sultan.. |
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Reply unekspekted_III
xpe.. sambil2 tu tepek la dulu dokumen yg bgtau meriam2 tu xleh pus ...
halimi78 Post at 26-11-2010 09:38 
ade.. mesti ade punyerrrr..
40,000 copies of document bukan habis seminggu nk habis carik |
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Reply unekspekted_III
Cite pasal skrg lerrr, bukan 1930...
Dulu sbelum penjajah:
JOHO ...
yaminz Post at 26-11-2010 10:38
apahal pulaaakkk??? atuk ko pakai passsport ke dulu nak masuk singapore???
senang jee kn klu nak dijadikan contoh... hehehehee  |
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SEBAB... Intel
Cita perluasan Jepun memang dah diketahu oleh British sejak 1931 lagi...
UNKNOW TO US.. WWII start 1939.. bukan 1942... and bibit2 perang start sejak 1931...
Sebab tu SEBELUM PERANG PUN British dah bina Pill Box mcm ni dari Kelantan, Penang sampai JOhor
unekspekted_III Post at 26-11-2010 11:01 
unknown to us? sorry, sapa lak yg kata ww2 start 1942 nih? ww2 start ngan german invasion kat europe..
bibit2 perang ngan jepun.. considering japan as a threat bila blaku japanese expansion in the far east..
mmg pong construction pillboxes n singapore also penang fortresses started years before the japanese raid in malaya..
of course they constructed all the defenses before the war.. not during the war..
territorial defense against incoming occupants..
unless for the occupants.. they constructed defenses during the war.. expand n defend..
i dont get ur point here.. mind to xplain?
n blh tlg elaborate apa kaitan intel tu dgn mass production tu?
whats the value of 400k pounds during the great deppression?
sorry.. aritu kawan tgk awk letak present day value..
sbb tu kawan nak tau... cukup ke 400k during great depression utk bina 5 big guns..
(mind u, pound sterling start devalue in early 1930's) |
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considering japan as a threat bila blaku japanese expansion in the far east..
mmg pong construction pillboxes n singapore also penang fortresses started years before the japanese raid in malaya..
of course they constructed all the defenses before the war.. not during the war..
so.. same jugak dgn meriam.. pillboxes je buat.. meriam tak buat???
cukup ke 400k during great depression utk bina 5 big guns..
cukup sangat.. sebab :
dlm document lain dah stated yg nak bina airstrip.. equipped with auxillaries siap aerodrome cume less than 200k jee.. ni kan pulak 5 bijik meriam besi.. murah jee tuu |
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Reply 331# unekspekted_III
so.. same jugak dgn meriam.. pillboxes je buat.. meriam tak buat???
ko paham x apa kawan tulis yg ko quote tu?
yg kawan mintak pjelasan knp x jelaskan?
so... 190k utk airstip blh lak bg details... tp meriam xleh? sbb meriam tu cuma besi?
sori uneks.. slalu ko kata org lain x ilmiah.. tp kalo ni stetmen ko
5 bijik meriam besi.. murah jee tuu
x nampak lbh ilmiah gak.. dr org lain yg ko kata...
kalo nak bina meriam tu main pacak besi je ke? xde mende lain kene wat ke?
meriam tu mcm meriam jaman potugis ke? besi je? |
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Reply 331# unekspekted_III
lg 1 blh bg date document ni.. bila bajet nih..
seletar airbase is open for public in 1930... means the airbase is constructed earlier..
if the budget is released prior 1930.. i will accept it for further discussion..
if the budget is for upgrade.. means after 1930.. u should know what it means..
budget for upgrading the airbase to cater military operations.. |
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Reply 332# halimi78
pade aku laa kan.. statemetn ko tu simple je nak paham = tak boleh terime kenyataan yang kos buat 5 bijik meriam besi lebih murah dari buat 1 airstrip + 2 airdrome + 1 auxillary...
disebab kan tak boleh terime kenyataan kos tu lebih murah.. ko pusing2 pulak ckp nak kos meriam laa bagai.. hahahahaaa
padahal boleh google pun 'gun battery cost 1930'.. murah jee |
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Reply 334# unekspekted_III
aiks.. slalu mintak org lain proof sana sini..
xkan la ko punya turn x yah..
ada kawan kata kawan xleh terima kalo lbh murah?
kawan mintak proof je.. sbb ko bg yg lain..
tu bajet buat airfiled ke upgrade? |
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Reply unekspekted_III
aiks.. slalu mintak org lain proof sana sini..
xkan la ko punya turn x ...
halimi78 Post at 26-11-2010 12:40
aku dah bagi proof pun yg 400,000.000 tu UTK 5 MERIAM..
ko je yg tak boleh terime kenyataan |
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Reply 335# unekspekted_III
ada ke rege 8" kat battery wallace tu??
This a picture of the actual gun positioned at Battery Drew. This is a model 1888 8-inch cannon, mounted in a Model 1892 barbette carriage, which is a very heavy and stable gun platform. The gun weighed about 32,500 pounds and cost almost $17,000; the carriage weighted 84,000 lbs and cost about $14,000. This gun did not hide away like the gun at Battery Wallace (discussed below).
yg kawan nampak tu bttery drew.. 14k tu pong cuma carriage.. bkn meriam..
x ke yg kita bincang nih tmasuk construction cost? |
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Reply unekspekted_III
ada ke rege 8" kat battery wallace tu??
yg kawan nampak tu b ...
halimi78 Post at 26-11-2010 12:49
tambah kan jee laa.. yang pasti.. buat airstrip pun tak sampai 200k. meriam murah je.. terime je laa kenyataan iteww |
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Reply 339# unekspekted_III
airstrip pong dah rege 190k... kata duit sultan 100k utk wat sebijik airstrip...
maknanya duit x cukup tu... ke utk airstrip lain?
btw td kawan dah tanya pasal seletar airbase tu..
190k utk upgrade ka bina baru? date dokumen tu bila?
ni cite pasal installation of gun batteries kan? xkan rege meriam saja nak dkira..
emplacement apa sume xmo kira skali? lagu tu ka?
yg ko bg tu tu sistem x sama.. cane nak nilaikan sbg sama?
pre wwI punya sistem sama cam pre WWII punya sistem ke?
1888 punya gun compare ngan 1930's punya.. 40thn gak tu bezanya.. |
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Post time 25-11-2010 05:41 PM
