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[Tempatan] AirAsia Indonesia (QZ8501) [V2]: Jumlah Mangsa Dijumpai - 34 orang. #201

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Post time 10-1-2015 09:16 AM | Show all posts
Search for jet exposes Indonesian Navy’s limitations

BANGKOK — Indonesia’s hunt for the wreckage of a downed AirAsia jet is exposing the constraints on its navy as President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo seeks to transform his nation into a major maritime power.

Mr Widodo, the former Jakarta Governor who took office in October, has laid out an ambitious vision that spans the development of the fishing industry, improved port infrastructure, stronger sea defence and better diplomacy as the government deals with illegal fishing, territorial disputes and piracy.

Key to that plan is modernising and expanding a navy that patrols the waters of the world’s biggest archipelago, a string of more than 17,000 islands that would stretch almost from New York to London. Indonesia has long focused the bulk of its defence spending on ground forces as it dealt with internal security threats, leaving its navy short of ships, manpower and technology.

“There has been a general recognition that Indonesia’s navy has for a long time been inadequate for an archipelago as sprawling as Indonesia,” said Mr Ken Conboy, country manager of RMA Indonesia, a Jakarta-based risk management firm.

As it hunts for more pieces of the AirAsia plane that went down on Dec 28, Indonesia has been quick to call on countries including the United States, China, Russia, Australia, Singapore and Malaysia to send planes, ships, divers and high-tech equipment to assist. Indonesia has five vessels equipped with hydrophones to try to pinpoint the airliner’s black box, while the USS Fort Worth is using high-frequency side-scan sonars to do the same.

While such a search would test the capabilities of even larger navies, it has exposed some of Indonesia’s weaknesses, such as problems with night-time and all-weather searches and a lack of equipment to conduct sophisticated aerial maritime surveillance, said Mr Collin Koh, an associate research fellow at the S Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore who studies the modernisation of South-east Asia’s navies.

The Indonesian Navy has 213 ships in total, including more than 70 patrol and coastal combatants, said Mr Brian Harding, director for East and South-east Asia at the Washington DC-based Center for American Progress, said in a World Politics Review interview published last month.

“However, the sum is less than its parts, with fewer than half of the vessels combat-ready and most not well integrated,” Mr Harding said.

Mr Widodo has said he wants to boost defence spending to 1.5 per cent of Indonesia’s gross domesticproduct.

Rather than buying high-priced items such as submarines, Indonesia should focus its resources on more immediate challenges and invest in smaller patrol vessels better suited to dealing with illegal fishing, as well as manned and unmanned aerial maritime surveillance, Mr Koh said. BLOOMBERG
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Post time 10-1-2015 12:25 PM | Show all posts
biggirlduncry replied at 10-1-2015 09:15 AM
Five other airlines found to have flown routes without permits

JAKARTA — Indonesia’s Transport  ...

SAtu satu semua terburai. What next after this? It took one major incident to expose all those wrongdoing. Indonesia semuanya boleh.
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Post time 10-1-2015 12:41 PM | Show all posts
biggirlduncry replied at 10-1-2015 01:15 AM
Five other airlines found to have flown routes without permits

JAKARTA — Indonesia’s Transport  ...

pelik lah..

flying without permits?

siapa yg sign to authorised the flight and route?

kenapa smpi jadi mcm ni?

ni ada kaitan dgn bribery tak?sorry,dulu selalu sgt baca psl kes bribery berleluasa di sana..

nyawa org mcm x de harga..

dan ada pulak indonesians yg bangga route to europe dibuka semula utk garuda after banning for so many years,tau2 airliner tu jugak antara yg terbang illegally..

klu ada indonesians yg takut dan nak ban flying with MAS,i laaaggiii takut nak terbang dgn garuda..lion air tu sapa punya?indonesians juga ke?

huwaaaa,mcm2 lah yg terburai lepas insiden airasia ni,dgn pilots yg ambik dadah lah..mcm2 hal...

aduhai
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Post time 10-1-2015 12:44 PM | Show all posts
Peterpan17 replied at 10-1-2015 04:25 AM
SAtu satu semua terburai. What next after this? It took one major incident to expose all those wro ...

u ingat x somewhere last year dlm CI juga kan ada indonesians yg bangga giler garuda dh dibenarkan terbang ke heathrow,sambil kutuk2 MAS..

masa tu MaS tgh bermasalah dgn dua airliners,satu hilang satu kena tembak..

hujung2 garuda juga yg gigih terbang tanpa permit..

teruk sgt ke isu keselamatan di sana?
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Post time 10-1-2015 12:55 PM | Show all posts
pinksarah replied at 10-1-2015 12:44 PM
u ingat x somewhere last year dlm CI juga kan ada indonesians yg bangga giler garuda dh dibenarkan ...

Ingat. Dia guna nick Ogre. Dari Ogre dok kena ban hammer psl buat hal. Smp jd OgreDuaBelas.

Caca marba sungguh negara depa ni. Harga manusia takde nilai. Dok mengutuk Msia smp tak tgk own backyard yg penuh dgn sampah sarap berbau hapak.
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Post time 10-1-2015 03:22 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Team SAR sedang menarik bagian ekor pesawat AirAsia QZ8501. Sebelum ini bahagian ekor ini berada di kedalaman 35 meter akhirnya terangkat ke permukaan laut.

Ekor pesawat masih ditarik dengan menggunakan crane dari kapal Crest Onyx.

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Post time 10-1-2015 03:23 PM | Show all posts
Peterpan17 replied at 10-1-2015 12:55 PM
Ingat. Dia guna nick Ogre. Dari Ogre dok kena ban hammer psl buat hal. Smp jd OgreDuaBelas.

Ca ...

A ah.. Aku ingat hat ni, menyungguh dia bgtau flight kebanggaan depa dah buleh masu europe.
Walhal kita sedia maklom kedudukan sebenar.
Masalah keselamatan tu yg paling utama.

Gamaknya lepas kes ni baru la semua badan gigih check itu ini, hamik ko.. Flight kebanggaan pon kantoi.

Setidaknya kes kita tu bukan soal kurang keselamatan. Pendek cerita bukan salah kita.
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Post time 10-1-2015 03:28 PM | Show all posts
pinksarah replied at 10-1-2015 12:41 PM
pelik lah..

flying without permits?

Pelik kan??

Saya rasa mungkin situasinya sama mcm QZ, keliru jadual summer n winter (gigih nak 4musim jugak depa ni). Isu ni tak timbul kalau badan berkenaan check bebetui schedule penerbangan kan. Bukan domestic pulak tu.

Or

Memang mkn rasuah.

Ye lah, dah diterap dlm kepala kaedah pengangkutan udara paling selamat so depa main mcm bas tambahan saja la..
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Post time 10-1-2015 03:36 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Jakarta- Upaya pengangkatan ekor pesawat AirAsia Qz-8501 mulai membuahkan hasil, Sabtu (10/1/2015). Balon yang digunakan untuk mengapungkan serpihan ekor sudah mengapung di atas air dan terlihat mengangkat serpihan ekor.



Keterangan Foto :
Bagian ekor pesawat AirAsia yang berada di kedalaman 35 meter akhirnya terangkat ke permukaan.
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Post time 10-1-2015 03:56 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts






Keterangan Foto :

-Serpihan ekor pesawat itu mengapung di samping lifting bag.

-Beberapa anggota TNI AL bersiap mengawal proses pengangkatan dari permukaan laut dengan menggunakan kapal karet.

-Ekor pesawat itu ditarik menggunakan crane dari kapal Crest Onyx yang berjarak sekitar 500 meter dari KRI Banda Aceh. Potongan ekor pesawat ini akan dibawa ke Pangkalan Bun untuk kepentingan penyelidikan.

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Post time 10-1-2015 06:53 PM | Show all posts
Crews managed to bring the tail of the crashed AirAsia plane to the surface Saturday.





The tail was lifted from the sea floor using large balloons. After floating to the surface, the tail was hoisted onto a ship.

The tail was located under about 100 feet of water in the Java Sea, where crews have focused their search for the ill-fated plane, the Associated Press reported. The rear of the plane has been of particular interest, as it would have held the black boxes — which should offer some insight into what led to the crash.

It was not immediately clear Saturday if the black boxes were still in the tail section.
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Post time 10-1-2015 07:09 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 11-1-2015 09:33 PM | Show all posts
The black box from the downed AirAsia QZ8501 flight will be retrieved on Monday morning, says Indonesia's Directorate General of Marine Transport.


SURABAYA: Indonesia's Directorate General of Marine Transport has confirmed that the black box of AirAsia QZ8501 has been found, Indonesian authorities said in a press release on Sunday (Jan 11). The breakthrough comes exactly two weeks after the flight from Surabaya to Singapore went down with 162 people on board.

In the release, coordinator of the Directorate General of Marine Transport Tonny Budiono said navy divers from Indonesia navy ship KN Jadayat found the black box at a depth of 30 to 32 meters.

The black box is currently wedged between pieces of wreckage making it difficult for divers to retrieve, and due to time constraints, retrieval will take place on Monday morning, said Mr Budiono. The search crew will attempt to retrieve the black box by moving parts of wreckage to loosen it from where it is currently stuck, and if that fails, the same balloon method used to lift the tail of the plane will be employed.

To facilitate recovery efforts, a marker buoy has been installed at the site where the black box is, added Mr Budiono.

- CNA/av
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Post time 11-1-2015 09:52 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Pyhnyer nk naikkn menda besar dr dasar laut.nasib bkn laut Hindi..
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Post time 11-1-2015 10:00 PM | Show all posts
biggirlduncry replied at 10-1-2015 03:23 PM
A ah.. Aku ingat hat ni, menyungguh dia bgtau flight kebanggaan depa dah buleh masu europe.
Walha ...

hahahah!!nasiblah kan. Skrg kawan tu terkebil2 tak blh ckp apa. Semua kantoi one by one.

BTW, berapa mayat dah jumpa ni?? Sendu semacam je thread ni.
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Post time 11-1-2015 10:06 PM | Show all posts
juliez replied at 11-1-2015 09:33 PM
The black box from the downed AirAsia QZ8501 flight will be retrieved on Monday morning, says Indone ...

Cepatlah jumpa blackbox. Once and for all selesaikan pencarian. Kesian pd mayat yg blm dijumpa.
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Post time 11-1-2015 10:06 PM | Show all posts
Peterpan17 replied at 11-1-2015 10:00 PM
hahahah!!nasiblah kan. Skrg kawan tu terkebil2 tak blh ckp apa. Semua kantoi one by one.

BTW, b ...

takat ini yg akak perasan 48 mayat di jumpai.
so ada more than 100 lagi belum ketemui.


kes ini sendu sebab straight forward, akak2 abang2 konspirasi teori susah nak buat cerita, masa awal2 dulu dah nak start create cerita hollywood namun dah kena cerca siap2 dah. terus senyap.
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Post time 11-1-2015 10:11 PM | Show all posts
Changa replied at 11-1-2015 10:06 PM
takat ini yg akak perasan 48 mayat di jumpai.
so ada more than 100 lagi belum ketemui.

Agaknya mayat mayat yg ada dah jd makanan ikan kat laut

Mmg straighfoward takde unsur2 consipiracy theory bagai. Tu sendu je. Apa2 pun tunggulah cerita black box ni.
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Post time 11-1-2015 10:53 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Baca kat twitter Bernama td dah jumpa kotak hitam tp takleh ambik sbb bwh fuselage.
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Post time 11-1-2015 10:56 PM | Show all posts
Kittie replied at 11-1-2015 10:53 PM
Baca kat twitter Bernama td dah jumpa kotak hitam tp takleh ambik sbb bwh fuselage.

mereka plan nak retrieve pagi esok sis.

tapi tengok ekor macam agak hancur kan sis?
akak tertanya2 juga apa yg berlaku terhadap pesawat itu, harap2 cepat la ketemui jawaban nya.
akak baca hari itu abg indon cakap ianya akan ambil masa like 2 weeks to download data dari kotak hitam itu bila dah hantar ke tempat pembacaan kelak.
itu pun mcm kalau takde kerosakan ke apa.
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