Untold History : Harta Qarun Pembesar Firaun pernah dijumpai di Johor

unekspekted_II

Reply  unekspekted_II


   sheba ni.. adakah ratu balqis.. dr kerajaan shaba... masa zaman nabi  ...
anonymous Post at 11-1-2011 12:25

Wallahua'alam..

but. "Sheba" as recorded in old tastement - dikatkaan di Erithea.. or Habsyah.. kt africa.. BUT.. recent archeology dapat tau - iannya di Yemen, bukan di Habsyah..


ade kesilapan dalam old tastement kt situ.

afja

Reply 340# anonymous


sama pemikiran kita.... sheba tu merujuk kepada kerajaan saba' ke?
ke area lain?


ni le org puteh nih. suka ngat nk ingeriskan perkataan nama2 org/tempat...
dah kompius makcik...

unekspekted_II

dipendekkan cite :

"Ophir" yang berada dinusantara diasaskan oleh Joktan, anak nabi Ibrahim.. dan cucunya pulak (yg tinggal di Ophir) adalah Queen Sheeba yg dikahwini oleh Nabi Sulaiman

unekspekted_II

konon2 nye laa.. aku pun tak pasti.. but connection 'name' kt situ memang ade..

unekspekted_II

Reply 342# afja

di kota kinabalu, SABAH

afja

silap2 peristiwa zaman Nabi Musa dan Nabi Sulaiman pun boleh tertukar ni nanti...
kalau x kena gaya...

anonymous

Reply 343# unekspekted_II


   so mean.. sheba tu ratu kerajaan saba' ??? dan bernama balqis???

afja

Reply 345# unekspekted_II





ini bukan spam yer

unekspekted_II

Reply 347# anonymous

maybe bukan

sebab ; "sheeba" tu name yg digunakan dalam rujukan yahudi dan kristian.. dorang takde cakap pasal 'takhta' balqis yg diangkat jin.. cume dalam Quran je ade cite tuu..

unekspekted_II

Reply 348# afja

aku serious.. anak Joktan (Queen Sheeba) tinggal di area ni = seperti yg dinyatakan dalam salinan purba tu....

AND.. cube check asal usul name negeri 'SABAH'.. jumpe???

unekspekted_II

Details about the three of Joktan's sons, Sheba, Ophir and Havilah, were preserved in a tradition known in divergent forms from three pre-Islamic Arabic and Ethiopic sources: the Kitab al-Magall (part of Clementine literature), the Cave of Treasures, and the Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan.

dari : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joktan

So.. anak2 Joktan memang tinggal disini

shamsadis

Reply  abas8888


bukan ke melaka ni baru terkenal pd thn 1400 masihi...
sdgkan qarun ni idup zaman nabi musa 3000 sblm masihi

cemana tuh?
afja Post at 11-1-2011 08:26

Kerajaan Melayu Melaka diasaskan tahun 1262 - Penyelidik31/05/2010 7:04pm


MELAKA - Sepasukan penyelidik yang dilantik kerajaan negeri Melaka menemui tarikh baru kerajaan Melayu Melaka diasaskan iaitu pada tahun 1262, kata Ketua Menteri Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam.
Beliau berkata, penemuan tarikh baru itu sekaligus menolak tarikh yang diumumkan sebelum ini iaitu 1278 oleh pasukan penyelidik itu pada bulan lepas.
"Dengan penemuan tarikh baru itu (1262) juga menolak pendapat penulis terdahulu yang menyatakan Melaka diasaskan pada tahun 1400,” katanya kepada pemberita selepas merasmikan Seminar Tahun Pengasasan Kerajaan Melayu Melaka anjuran Institut Kajian Sejarah dan Patriotisme Malaysia (IKSEP) di sini, hari ini.
Pasukan penyelidik dengan sembilan anggota termasuk pakar sejarah dari universiti tempatan, dipengerusikan Naib Canselor Kolej Universiti Islam Melaka Prof Emeritus Datuk Wira Dr Mohd Yusoff Hashim manakala ketua penyelidik Prof Dr Abdullah Zakaria Ghazali dari Jabatan Sejarah Universiti Malaya.
Mereka diberi tugas membuat kajian dan penyelidikan bagi mengenal pasti tahun penubuhan kerajaan Melayu Melaka sebagai satu entiti politik di alam Melayu dan memulakan penyelidikan pada Jun tahun lepas.
Mohd Ali berkata, pasukan penyelidik berkenaan memilih tahun 1262 itu berdasarkan kepada sumber daripada Sejarah Melayu atau Sulalatus Salatin versi Raja Bongsu, salah seorang Sultan Johor yang merupakan pemilik naskah tersebut. - Bernama

sumber : http://www.kosmo.com.my/kosmo/content.asp?y=2010&dt=0531&pub=Kosmo&sec=Terkini&pg=bt_13.htm

tapi belum ada pengesahan lagi...masih dalam kajian....

anonymous

ni dikatakan gambo kuil kerajaan saba' in yamen....

gambo lama...

http://www.iphotocentral.com/showcase/full_image.php/35/1/0/14/13945/9590_Samer_Mohdad.jpg

ni setelah di jumpai...



ader gak pulau nama saba...

salah satu kawasan saba

The ancient cities of Zeugma, which was founded by Seleucus I (Nicator), one of the officers of Alexander the Great, in about 300 B.C, and Aspendos, which was founded by Greeks from Argos in around 1000 B.C., are both known in Turkey today as Belkıs, the legendary queen of the pre-historical Saba Kingdom, whose name also appears in the Old Testament, Bible and Koran as the wife of Solomon. The name Belkıs has come to symbolize femininity and city life, and is also the name of our first apartment concept project. The architectural approach of Apartıman’Belkıs embodies the grace and urbanity of this legendary queen, whose name now lives in Pera.

anonymous

ni khatan yg uneks katakan...

unekspekted_II

Pre Islamic Literature mencatatkan, kaitan Sheeba dan Ophir :

Dalam kita Kitab al-Magall:

"He [Nimrod] died in the days of Reu, and the third thousand since Adam was completed. In his days the people of Egypt set up a king over them called Firnifs. He reigned over them for sixty-eight years. In his days also a king reigned over the town of Saba and annexed to his kingdom the cities of Ophir and Havilah, his name was Pharaoh. He built Ophir with stones of gold, for the stones of its mountains are pure gold. After him there reigned over Havilah a king called Hayul. He built it and cemented it, and after the death of Pharaoh women reigned over Saba until the time of Solomon son of David."

dalam kitab Cave of Treasures:

"And in the days of Reu, the Mesraye, who are the Egyptians, appointed their first king; his name was Puntos, and he reigned over them sixty-eight years. And in the days of Reu a king reigned in Shebha (Saba), and in Ophir, and in Havilah. And there reigned in Saba sixty of the daughters of Saba. And for many years women reigned in Saba--until the kingdom of Solomon, the son of David. And the children of Ophir, that is, Send (Scindia ?), appointed to be their king Lophoron (?), who built Ophir with stones of gold; now, all the stones that are in Ophir are of gold. And the children of Havilah appointed to be their king Havîl, who built Havilah, that is, Hend (India ?)."

dalam kitab Conflict of Adam and Eve:

"And in those days Ragu [Reu] was 180 years old, and in his 140th year Yanuf [Apophis] reigned over the land of Egypt. He is the first king who reigned over it, and he built the city of Memphis, and named it after his own name. That is Misr, whose name is rendered Masrin. This Yanuf died; and in his stead, in the days of Ragu, one from the land of India reigned, whose name was Sasen, and who built the city of Saba. And all the kings who reigned over that country were called Sabaeans, after the name of the city. Then again Phar'an reigned over the children of Saphir [Ophir], and built the city of Saphir with stones of gold; and that is the land of Sarania, and because of these stones of gold, they say that the mountains of that country and the stones thereof are all of gold. Then the children of Lebensa of the country of India, made king over them, one called Bahlul, who built the city of Bahlu. Then Ragu died in his 289th year."

kaitannye :

Bile sebut "Ophir".. merujuk kepada kerajaan Gunung Ledang..

BUT.. KENAPE NAME 'SHEEBA' ade disitu pulak????? bersama2 kerajaan Ophir???? klu jauh.. satu di Nusantara.. satu di Yemen.. baik x payah cite.. rite??

anonymous

Reply 354# anonymous


   silap nama plak.. hahaa yg uneks.. joktan.. ni qhatan.. heheh

afja

Reply 352# shamsadis


ok...
tetap tidak memungkinkan peristiwa Qarun yg berlaku 3000 BC... nak dikaitkan dgn kewujudan empayar melaka dan perdagangan maritimnya...

unekspekted_II

Reply 356# anonymous

hahahahaha.. aku ingat katan sunat

unekspekted_II

Reply 357# afja

for sure.. melaka TIADA kaitan langsung.. it very very very very very far ancient than melaka...

shamsadis

Reply  shamsadis


ok...
tetap tidak memungkinkan peristiwa Qarun yg berlaku 3000 BC... nak dik ...
afja Post at 11-1-2011 12:55

    sejarah negara kita di tanah melayu nie telah diputar alam ditonggang tebalikkan agar....ermmm.....