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Jom Bincang Ayat Al Maidah : 5

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Post time 4-1-2006 11:41 PM | Show all posts
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Many Muslims talk about what they call "Halal Meat" without even knowing their Quranic criteria. Most of those who arrive to the USA or the "West" in General,  from other countries, or those who convert to Islam (Submission) in these countries, are usually faced by someone who tell them, "do not eat but the 'Halal meat' ."  They usually mean the man-made definition of  Halal meat, not the divine definition of "Halal" Meat that is found explained clearly in the Quran.

The Quran teaches that God is extremely displeased with those who prohibit anything that was not specifically prohibited in the Quran, See 16:112-116. The upholding of any prohibitions not specifically mentioned in the Quran is tantamount to idolatry, See 6:142-152. Such prohibitions represent some other god (s) beside God. If you worship God Alone, you will uphold His teachings ALONE and honor the commandments and prohibitions instituted by HIM ALONE.


God very clearly mentioned in the Quran what is prohibited from the food and meat. See 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and16:115. From these verses you can know what is Halal (lawful) meat and what is haram (prohibited).

"He only prohibits for you the eating of animals that die
of themselves (without human interference), blood, the
meat of pigs, and animals dedicated to other than GOD. If
one is forced (to eat these), without being malicious or
deliberate, he incurs no sin. GOD is Forgiver, Most
Merciful." [2:173]

"Halal Meat" as we know it these days, is a term used more often for commercial profits than religious observance. Those who call their meat Halal, are in some way insinuating that any other meat is not Halal, or specifically the meat in the general grocery stores is not Halal. They make more money on their products by selling it more expensive while deceiving the naive public Moslems into believing that their meat is the only Halal meat for the Muslims.

You do not need to guess hard to understand the MERCY of the MOST merciful. God Almighty knows many Muslims will live in the middle of Christians and Jews and will be sharing their food and for this reason God told the Prophet Muhammed more than 1400 years ago, the following;

"Today, all good food is made lawful for you. The food of the people of the scripture (Jews & Christians) is LAWFUL (HALAL) for you......" 5:5

These verses were revealed at a time when God already told us that the people of the scripture distorted their books and no-one can claim this verse was meant for the early Jews and Christians. God Almighty has also specified a very important criteria for His true believers, MENTION GOD"S NAME on everything you are going to eat. See 5:4, & 6:118-119,

"You shall eat from that upon which God's name has been pronounced, if you truly believe in His revelation." 6:118

"Why should you NOT eat from that upon which God's name has been mentioned ? He has DETAILED for you what is prohibited for you, unless you are forced. Indeed, many people mislead others with their personal opinions, without knowledge. Your Lord is fully aware of the transgressors." 6:119

God in these verses puts the responsibility, as usual, on the individual. It is you , I and everyone's responsibility to mention God's name on everything we eat. Notice here that God says "EAT" and not "SLAUGHTER" when it comes to mentioning His name. God knows that one day these slaughter houses will be run by machines and computers. He assigned the responsibility to every true Muslim to mention His name on his /her food. We can have machines say Azan and read Basmallah and mention God's name on everything, but this would not take away the responsibility of every individual to remember God and mention His name when it is time to eat. Individuals who work in the slaughter house can be idol-worshipers or aetheist while claiming to be Muslims, Jews or Christians . That is why it is your responsibility to mention God's name before eating. In brief, the slaughter house does not make the meat halal or haram but YOU do.

God did not make distinction between the meat prepared by a Muslim, a Christian, or a Jew, all are lawful to the same degree, all are HALAL. All should be eaten after God's name is pronounced on it before you eat it. Making it difficult for yourself, by insisting on driving miles to look for the so called "Halal Meat" reflects a misunderstanding of or disbelief in God's book and His permission for us to eat the food of the Christians and Jews. If you do not accept God's permission in the Quran, you should re-evaluate your beliefs and understanding of Islam (Submission in English).  Those who believe God in the Quran accept His permission to eat the food of the people of the scriptures and enjoy it and appreciate the mercy of the Most Merciful.

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Post time 4-1-2006 11:42 PM | Show all posts
Quranic Study of Halal Meat

EAT WHAT IS LAWFUL

[5:88] And eat from the good and lawful things that GOD has provided
for you. You shall reverence GOD, in whom you are believers.

[22:30] Those who reverence the rites decreed by GOD have deserved
a good reward at their Lord. All livestock is made lawful for your food,
except for those specifically prohibited for you. You shall avoid the
abomination of idol worship, and avoid bearing false witness.

[2:168] O people, eat from the earth's products all that is lawful and
good, and do not follow the steps of Satan; he is your most ardent
enemy.

[5:96] All fish of the sea are made lawful for you to eat. During
pilgrimage, this may provide for you during your journey. You shall not
hunt throughout the pilgrimage. You shall reverence GOD, before whom
you will be summoned.

[2:172] O you who believe, eat from the good things we provided for
you, and be thankful to GOD, if you do worship Him alone.

[5:93] Those who believe and lead a righteous life bear no guilt by
eating any food, so long as they observe the commandments, believe
and lead a righteous life, then maintain their piety and faith, and
continue to observe piety and righteousness. GOD loves the righteous.


WHAT IS PROHIBITED

[2:173] He only prohibits for you the eating of animals that die of
themselves (without human interference), blood, the meat of pigs, and
animals dedicated to other than GOD. If one is forced (to eat these),
without being malicious or deliberate, he incurs no sin. GOD is
Forgiver, Most Merciful.

[5:3] Prohibited for you are animals that die of themselves, blood, the
meat of pigs,* and animals dedicated to other than GOD. (Animals that
die of themselves include those) strangled, struck with an object,
fallen from a height, gored, attacked by a wild animal - unless you save your
animal before it dies - and animals sacrificed on altars. Also prohibited
is dividing the meat through a game of chance; this is an abomination.
Today, the disbelievers have given up concerning (the eradication of)
your religion; do not fear them and fear Me instead. Today, I have
completed your religion, perfected My blessing upon you, and I have
decreed Submission as the religion for you. If one is forced by famine
(to eat PROHIBITED FOOD), without being deliberately sinful, then GOD
is Forgiver, Merciful.

[2:173] He only prohibits for you the eating of animals that die of
themselves (without human interference), BLOOD, the meat of pigs, and
animals dedicated to other than GOD. If one is forced (to eat these),
without being malicious or deliberate, he incurs no sin. GOD is
FORGIVER, Most Merciful.

[6:145] Say, "I do not find in the revelations given to me any food that
is prohibited for any eater except: (1) carrion, (2) running BLOOD, (3)
the meat* of pigs, for it is contaminated, and (4) the meat of animals
blasphemously dedicated to other than GOD." If one is forced (to eat
these), without being deliberate or malicious, then your Lord is
FORGIVER, Most Merciful.

[16:115] He only prohibits for you dead animals, BLOOD, the meat of
pigs,* and food which is dedicated to other than GOD. If one is forced
(to eat these), without being deliberate or malicious, then GOD is
FORGIVER, Most Merciful.


MENTION GOD'S NAME BEFORE YOU EAT


[6:118] You shall eat from that upon which GOD's name has been
pronounced, if you truly believe in His revelations.

[6:119] Why should you not eat from that upon which GOD's name has
been mentioned? He has detailed for you what is prohibited for you,
unless you are forced. Indeed, many people mislead others with their
personal opinions, without knowledge. Your Lord is fully aware of the
transgressors.

[6:121] Do not eat from that upon which the name of GOD has not been
mentioned, for it is an abomination. The devils inspire their allies to
argue with you; if you obey them, you will be idol worshipers.*


PROHIBITING WHAT IS LAWFULL


[16:116] You shall not utter lies with your own tongues stating: "This is
lawful, and this is unlawful," to fabricate lies and attribute them to GOD.
Surely, those who fabricate lies and attribute them to GOD will never
succeed.

[10:59] Say, "Did you note how GOD sends down to you all kinds of
provisions, then you render some of them unlawful, and some lawful?"
Say, "Did GOD give you permission to do this? Or, do you fabricate lies
and attribute them to GOD?"

[16:35] The idol worshipers say, "Had GOD willed, we would not
worship any idols besides Him, nor would our parents. Nor would we
prohibit anything besides His prohibitions." Those before them have
done the same. Can the messengers do anything but deliver the
complete message?


Do Not Prohibit Lawful Things


[5:87] O you who believe, do not prohibit good things that are made
lawful by GOD, and do not aggress; GOD dislikes the aggressors.
[5:88] And eat from the good and lawful things that GOD has provided
for you. You shall reverence GOD, in whom you are believers.

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Post time 6-1-2006 05:03 PM | Show all posts
Maaf, sedikit variasi yang wujud antara terjemahan pengarang artikel tersebut dengan laman web tafsir Ibn Kathir;
belut wrote:
[5:3] Prohibited for you are animals that die of themselves, blood, the
meat of pigs,* and animals dedicated to other than GOD. (Animals that
die of themselves include those) strangled, struck with an object,
fallen from a height, gored, attacked by a wild animal - unless you save your animal before it dies - and animals sacrificed on altars. Also prohibited is dividing the meat through a game of chance; this is an abomination.
Today, the disbelievers have given up concerning (the eradication of)
your religion; do not fear them and fear Me instead. Today, I have
completed your religion, perfected My blessing upon you, and I have
decreed Submission as the religion for you. If one is forced by famine
(to eat PROHIBITED FOOD), without being deliberately sinful, then GOD is Forgiver, Merciful.


Sewajarnya begini;

3. Forbidden to you (for food) are: Al-Maytah (the dead animals), blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been slaughtered as a sacrifice for other than Allah, and that which has been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by the goring of horns ـand that which has been (partly) eaten by a wild animal ـunless you are able to slaughter it (before its death) - and that which is sacrificed (slaughtered) on An-Nusub (stone altars). (Forbidden) also is to make decisions with Al-Azlam (arrows) (all) that is Fisq (disobedience and sin). This day, those who disbelieved have given up all hope of your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But as for him who is forced by severe hunger, with no inclination to sin (such can eat these above mentioned animals), then surely, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.)

Wallahualam...

[ Last edited by simplelife at 6-1-2006 07:33 PM ]

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Post time 6-1-2006 09:50 PM | Show all posts
Mungkinkah sdr belut merujuk kepada haiwan terlatih yang menangkap haiwan liar/buas untuk tuannya dan memburu haiwan liar dengan panah dsb? Tetapi masih ada syarat-syarat yang perlu dipatuhi seperti di link berikut;

http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=5&tid=13192
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=5&tid=13282
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=5&tid=13312

p/s: Kan senang kalau ada rujukan hadis cam gini??

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Post time 8-1-2006 07:36 PM | Show all posts
salam

dalam betul kajian kalian
saya pun jauh ketinggalanlah
sebab yg ada SECARIK ni pun tak mampu saya nak AMALKAN
ni kan pulak yg terlalu ..........

SESUNGGUHNYA ISLAM ITU TERTEGAK DGN TIGA,
SEBAR SALAM, LAYAN TETAMU DAN JAMU MAKAN.

(itu pun susah jugak nak amalkan)
SELAWAT DAN KEBAIKAN HANYA DARI ALLAH
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belut This user has been deleted
Post time 9-1-2006 12:03 AM | Show all posts
Dietary Prohibitions
By Haroon Khan (e-mail: [email protected])

Dietary laws, just like any other commandment in Islam make up an important part of the religion, which should be practised by every Muslim. Unfortunately over time Muslim's have made the same mistake the Jews did. Like the Jews they started to innovate extra dietary laws and attribute these lies to God.

Inshallah (God willing), I will attempt to show what the dietary laws are according to the Quran which is fully detailed (see 6:114). The myth associated with Halaal food is that food is not Halaal (Lawful) unless it has been slaughtered the so-called Islamic way (slitting its throat with a knife) while reciting/mentioning God's name.

Let us take a look at the verses that talk about what food is lawful and what is lawful in the Quran.

揙 people, eat from the earth's products all that is lawful and good, and do not follow the steps of Satan; he is your most ardent enemy.

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Post time 9-1-2006 09:35 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by belut at 9-1-2006 12:03 AM
4. Anything blasphemously dedicated to other than God.

Would you consider an animal slaughtered "in the name of Jesus" to be halal?
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Post time 9-1-2006 11:20 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by amorist at 9-1-2006 09:35 AM

Would you consider an animal slaughtered "in the name of Jesus" to be halal?


betul gak tu... Kristian zaman nabi semelih camner ek ? :stp:
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Post time 18-1-2006 08:03 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by amorist at 27-12-2005 12:22 AM

Saya rasa, tak ada persoalan tentang sembelihan Yahudi. Mereka menyembelih sepertimana orang Islam menyembelih dan Rasulullah juga pernah menyuruh orang-orang Yahudi melihat kepada hukum dalam ki ...



Tuan Amorist.. negus abraha yg dimaksudkan tu adakah sama dgn golongan raja afrika Aksum yg memberi perlindungan kpd org Islam dari quraish? :hmm:
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Post time 18-1-2006 08:25 PM | Show all posts
Negus Abraha adalah raja Habsyah (yang sekarang ini dipanggil Ethiopia), terletak di bahagian utara Afrika. Mereka inilah yang memberi perlindungan kepada umat Islam dalam hijrah yang pertama.

Abraha tidak pernah mempercayai bahawa Nabi Isa adalah anak Tuhan.

Golongan inilah yang disebut dalam surah Al Maidah ayat 82-83:

Demi sesungguhnya engkau akan dapati manusia yang keras sekali permusuhannya kepada orang-orang yang beriman ialah orang-orang Yahudi dan orang-orang musyrik dan demi sesungguhnya engkau akan dapati orang-orang yang dekat sekali kasih mesranya kepada orang-orang yang beriman ialah orang-orang yang berkata: "Bahawa kami ini ialah orang-orang Nasrani". Yang demikian itu, disebabkan ada di antara mereka pendeta-pendeta dan ahli-ahli ibadat, dan kerana mereka pula tidak berlaku sombong.

Dan apabila mereka mendengar Al-Quran yang diturunkan kepada Rasulullah, engkau melihat mata mereka mencucurkan air mata disebabkan apa yang mereka ketahui dari kebenaran (Al-Quran), sambil mereka berkata: Wahai Tuhan kami, kami beriman, oleh itu tetapkanlah kami bersama-sama orang-orang yang menjadi saksi (yang mengakui kebenaran Nabi Muhammad s.a.w).

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Post time 20-1-2006 07:17 PM | Show all posts
mcmana pulak dgn majoriti Arab Christian kat Middle East particularly kat Egypt, Palestine?
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Post time 24-1-2006 10:49 PM | Show all posts
Kepercayaan penganut Kristian mengenai Isa sebagai anak Tuhan telah bermula semenjak di bumi Arab, iaitu sejak sebelum kelahiran nabi Muhammad lagi. Kekafiran Nasrani di tanah Arab 2,000 tahun sama sahaja dengan kekafiran majoriti penganut Kristian pada hari ini. Malah, sesetengah kumpulan Protestant (reformis) pada hari ini lebih baik akidah mereka berbanding dengan penganut Nasrani di bumi Arab 2,000 tahun yang lampau. Walaupun penganut Nasrani di bumi Arab mempunyai budaya, bahasa dan upacara ritual agama yang menyerupai orang Islam, ini tidak mengurangkan taraf kesesatan mereka. Jelas, seorang Nasrani Arab yang bernama "Nasrullah" yang memakai jubah/serban dan memanggil Tuhan sebagai "Allah" sama sahaja kesesatannya dengan seorang Kristian bernama "Antonio" di Rome.
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Post time 25-1-2006 11:09 PM | Show all posts
Kristian terbahagi kepada dua golongan.... sehingga hari ini kedua-dua golongan itu masih wujud..

1) Trinity - yg mempercayai bahawa Jesus itu Tuhan... golongan ini membentuk majority penganut kristian pada hari ini..

2) Monotheist - golongan ini hanya percaya pada satu tuhan, dan Jesus hanya supreme messenger of God. Golongan ini terdapat di banyak negara termasuk UK, di Malaysia hanya ada sebilangan kecil sahaja. Golongan ini memegang kuat kepada Old Testament, jadi kebanyakan ruling asas dari Taurat masih dipengang yg hampir menyerupai Islam, terutamanya dari segi dietary.

Jadi yg kita boleh consider sebagai People of the Book adalah golongan kedua. Tidak syirik, dan memegang kuat pada "the law of moses". Golongan ini memegang kuat apa yg dikhabarkan Jesus "I came to the world not to change the law of moses, but merely to perfect it".
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Post time 25-1-2006 11:25 PM | Show all posts
Ahli Kitab bermaksud mereka yang menerima/diberi kitab. Ada ahli Kitab yang beriman, ada ahli kitab munafik, ada ahli kitab yang tersilap dan songsang akidah, ada ahli kitab yang mempunyai bid'ah dalam amalan agama (zuhud, biara dll.) tetapi berakhlak dan budi pekerti mulia. It cannot simply be seen as 'black and white'. Some are grey, greyer and so on. Allah the All-Knower will tell us all in the Hereafter about what we did.
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Post time 26-1-2006 02:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by belut at 25-1-2006 11:25 PM
Ahli Kitab bermaksud mereka yang menerima/diberi kitab. Ada ahli Kitab yang beriman, ada ahli kitab munafik, ada ahli kitab yang tersilap dan songsang akidah, ada ahli kitab yang mempunyai bid'ah dalam amalan agama (zuhud, biara dll.) tetapi berakhlak dan budi pekerti mulia. It cannot simply be seen as 'black and white'. Some are grey, greyer and so on. Allah the All-Knower will tell us all in the Hereafter about what we did.  



akhlak yg aku tau:
-akhlak terhadap Allah
-akhlak terhadap sesamer manusia
-akhlak terhadap alam sarwajagat (haiwan/tumbuh瞐n/alam sekitar)

***kalau ader yg kurang tolong tambahkan***


cuma, setahu aku (dari apa yg aku belajar/dengar/tahu)...no such thing "separuh betul" dalam agama....yg ada hanya betul dan salah... kalau tak BETUL , maknanya SALAH...apatah lagek perkara tu melibatkan ibadah ...

lagi satu...akhlak takde kena mengena ngan ibadah seseorang dalam kes nih...ader orang yg belajar agama bertahun
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Post time 26-1-2006 07:24 AM | Show all posts
Jadi, kedudukan ayahanda Nabi Muhammad (iaitu Abdullah) dan ibu baginda (Aminah) sama dengan kedudukan Abu Jahal, Abu Lahab yang memerangi Islam? Parah betul macam ni.. semua perkara mesti dilihat di antara hitam/putih, dan juga kafir laknatullah atau mu'meen.
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Post time 28-1-2006 09:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by belut at 26-1-2006 07:24 AM
Jadi, kedudukan ayahanda Nabi Muhammad (iaitu Abdullah) dan ibu baginda (Aminah) sama dengan kedudukan Abu Jahal, Abu Lahab yang memerangi Islam? Parah betul macam ni.. semua perkara mesti dilihat  ...


untuk soalan nih kita kena kaji balik apa agama Abdullah dan Aminah...aku tak pernah pulak terfikir soalan camnih...baguih lar belut dah tanya...aku akan cuba carek dimana
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Post time 29-1-2006 10:57 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by belut at 25-1-2006 11:25 PM
Ahli Kitab bermaksud mereka yang menerima/diberi kitab.

Betul. Mereka yang mengikut Injil, Taurat, Zabur dan kitab-kitab lain dari Tuhan.

Tetapi, mereka yang mengikuti kitab buatan manusia, seperti kitab yang ditulis oleh Paul, bukanlah golongan ahli kitab. Mereka berkitabkan apa yang bukan dari Tuhan.
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Post time 30-1-2006 12:24 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by belut at 26-1-2006 07:24 AM
Jadi, kedudukan ayahanda Nabi Muhammad (iaitu Abdullah) dan ibu baginda (Aminah) sama dengan kedudukan Abu Jahal, Abu Lahab yang memerangi Islam? Parah betul macam ni.. semua perkara mesti dilihat  ...



aku masih mencari ...tapi perlukan jugak bantuan kawan
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Post time 30-1-2006 12:29 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by amorist at 29-1-2006 10:57 AM

Betul. Mereka yang mengikut Injil, Taurat, Zabur dan kitab-kitab lain dari Tuhan.

Tetapi, mereka yang mengikuti kitab buatan manusia, seperti kitab yang ditulis oleh Paul, bukanlah golongan ah ...


mungkin ini jugak conclusion untuk persoalan "Ahli Kitab" yg sebenarnya...ada sesiapa yg setuju/tak setuju...?

p/s:-tumpang belajar dari kengkawan yg lebih arif...terima kasih
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