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responsibility is the most dreaded word for any civilised person.
most ppl only talk about freedom , but not its counterpart , responsibility
we love to be free but why we hate to become responsible?
u are free to marry anyone u wish but does that will ensure u carry on the responsibilities?
u r happy with ur choice but u are not happy to carry the duty
even thing like duty of care , of which failing to do so attribute to negligence
lots of life have been lost due tu negligence. |
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17# pendakwa
Does it mean that I am successful in making you agree with the quote? Pretty much, if you say you are, the happiness will come along when people appreciated what you did to the life ...
edaladiva Post at 30-7-2009 20:43 
Are you trying to conclude that success sometimes can be related to unhappiness and happiness sometimes does not require success? |
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22# pendakwa then define success |
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I guess to be more precise and very clear about what success is will be the first step to achieving success. I would rather quote that success is the completion of anything pre- planned. To be exact, success is completing what you intended to do. However, success can be view from various perspectives of every individual. Even molesting an innocent young child is a kind of success if that is what we wished to do. But the consequences of the define success as such will probably create unhappiness.
Conclude, success is a journey but happiness might not be the destination. |
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Success has no importance whatsoever.
Happiness is all important.
owh my... I just opened a can of worm and everhyone wil be asking clarification, disagreeing, asking me to explain and what not.... |
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Everyone is looking for the same thing but most are too stu*** to realize it.
Most of us are really, really stu***. But of course we don't know that, we think we are smart, but actually we are too stu*** to realize it. Always. |
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what are you mumbling about ? |
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Ok, I'll just be direct.
Most people are stupid. They think they want this, they have to be this, so this to have that and be that. Success is just arbitrary. Most do not realize they get this job they earn a phd, get a nice thing big car... just to get a certain feeling. In actuality all that you do is just to get a certain feeling. And it is happiness with no sorrow. That only. Everyone just want to feel that.
All the intellectual knowledege that most people had are useless. It's just a form of addiction, a mental orgy at best. Where has it brings you? It doesn't even make you happy more than a second.
Before you misunderstand my post, I do not direct it to anyone in particular. Not calling anyones stupid, hope no one takes offences. If anyone feel insulted, let me just take all that stupidity, all by myself. Let me be the stupid one. :p It's just a gentle reminder to me and those who like it. And this post is written with happy feeling, sebab aku rasa orang akan silap faham ingatkan post ni ditu;is dengan perasaan kecewa...
Setakat tu je yang aku mampu terangkan dan nak terangkan.
Kalau tak faham, cuba2lah faham... hehe...
kalau tak faham jugak aku mengaku memang aku bukannya pandai sangat terangkan, so kau kena cuba faham sendirilah.
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And, disclaimer...
I may be dead wrong. But I may never know it. |
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learn to be grateful each minute
savour every second in life
count the blessings and not misfortunes
be positive amid negatives |
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Success can only be one ingredient in happiness, and is too dearly purchased if all other ingredients have been sacrificed to obtain it. |
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Success can only be one ingredient in happiness, and is too dearly purchased if all other ingredients have been sacrificed to obtain it.
edaladiva Post at 2-8-2009 18:17 
yes wise wise words , perfectly and clearly written and how true kan? |
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Post Last Edit by mbhcsf at 2-8-2009 23:10
hmm ..it is not stupid to acquire a certain feeling of u know sense of achievement i.e success. The sense of achievemnt indeed , is a greater source of satisfaction and it is purely logical to have the feeling anyway. So , that is not stupid i guess.. because this feeling of satisfaction doubled when you have the opportunity to be giver / contributor of something like a lecturer with PhD , done her research say in voice physiology and discovered something and this finding is of great import to teh field she involved in. well iam sure she would be feling great and overjoyed but definitely this feeling is not stupid..so the next question is what is the wisest bit wakakaka feeling?hihihi ..hmm hilarious actually.
hmm satisfaction, sense of achievement , success well... pretty much interrelated to happiness i think........well why won't you be happy ? it is highly associated with happiness and it does not mean there is a strong cause - effect relationship kot in this very subjective topic.... |
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I adore happiness not success.......I have seen successful person who is burnt out , destroy their family and no where to go except a bottle of malt whiskey. |
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It's not stupid to succeed.
He's the cleverest, the one who is happy.
Success should be taken as a whole, if you have to "korbankan" this to get that (with imbalance) he is not sucessfull as a whole. Not whole.
Success (as in the general imbalance succeed in just one dimension, fail miserably in a few other dimension) understanding doesn't have any correlation to happiness whatsoever.
Success in limited definition and happiness can be mutually exclusive. Happiness is just a feeling. And a feeling is just a feel. It doesn't need anything to be.
So what most people here are talking about is "success in limited definition". Of course you may like it and so take it, play with it and enjoy it and you may find(or not) happiness there. |
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People romanticizes pengorbanan.
They want to be crucified, they want to hold the burden of Atlas. That's heroic to them. That's noble to them. And when certain aspects of they life fails, they said "see all my sacrifice. Look/listen at/to my stories."
They glorify no pain, no gain. And look at those who suceed without sacrificing any aspect of their life with disdain, pride, arrogance and haughtiness. I am better because I suffer more. And therefore "kejayaan saya lebih bernilai/manis dari kejayaan dia". |
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Post Last Edit by azzida at 4-8-2009 11:24
Post Last Edit by azzida at 4-8-2009 11:24
analogynya ...
Success : berjaya kikis duit org sampai habis
Happiness : seeing the person kena kikis tu crawling to get on feet again ... |
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would it be fair to hmm ? do a comparative success on two individuals who have different backgrounds? like socioeconomic factors etc etc
and how would this notion of happinees fit into place ( based on tHE case above ) |
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Oklah, terpaksa suap je kemulut...
Ada orang tu, asyik gagal je (berdasarkan pendapat umum la, setiap org definasikan gagal jaya berbeza). Jadi mamat ni, tengok orang jaki je, dengki, cemburu, kalau tak pun tengok orang penuh ngan rasa rendah diri dan apati. Tapi mamat ni tak tau, orang yang dia anggap memang berjaya giler tu sebenarnya 'happy' ke tak? Dia cuma main belasah je, anggap je. Yelah, kan dia tak biasa berjaya. Manalah dia tau kan?
Tapi mamat ni langsung tak tahu. Yang orang yang konon2nya berjaya tu tak semestinya gembira. Adal antara mereka tu 'happy' tapi ada je yang 'miserable'.
Yang ajaibnya ada pulak mamat lain ni yang langsung tidak berjaya, tak ada apa nak dibanggakan langsung (mengikut pendapat umum la, pendapat org kantak sama...) tapi hidupnya 'happy' je memanjang...
Jadi kat sini boleh nampak la kalau kita berfikir, kejayaan (dalam ertikata terhad) dan kebahagiaan langsung tak ada kaitan dengan kebahagiaan.
Maknanya ada unsur lain kat sini. Ada benda lain ni... ada rahsia... Apakah sebenarnya resepi kebahagiaan dan kegembiraan?
Lu fikirlah sendiri... |
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It's not stupid to succeed.
He's the cleverest, the one who is happy.
Success should be taken as a whole, if you have to "korbankan" this to get that (with imbalance) he is not sucessfull as a ...
Agul Post at 4-8-2009 00:00 
happiness is not a feeling
it is a default value of a natural system.
justice is happiness, contoh nya lah.
a children is naturally happy.
while happiness is the system, success is the inter and intra relation bw parts in the system.
The perceived of unhappiness is due to system breaks down or miscommunication bw parts in the system (any unsuccesful endeavours)
so the value of success is important in maintaing system (happiness) equilibrium. |
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Post time 1-8-2009 11:09 AM
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