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Pendapat Marina Mahathir terhadap pengunaan nama Allah

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Post time 5-1-2010 01:48 PM | Show all posts
a comment from somebody who's been to st catherine's monastery & a church in egypt, produced in verbatim:

Orthodox Christians which accounts for 10% of Egypt's population (circa 8 Million Christians) use "Allah" in defining their god. I've been to the very same St Catherine Monastery and even a famous church in Cairo. In the church the word "Allah" is scribed in arabic the same way Muslims do. Even their chanting and songs are in arabic the same way our nasyid is sang. Their holy bible is in arabic and has the word "allah" used throughout. Having being a minority in the 2nd most populous islamic country, Egypt has not restricted the christians to use Allah. I cannot understand what is the fuss of us letting the christians here in Malaysia using the word "Allah" in roman letters. It's not even in arabic. I would assume the muslims here in Malaysia has not travelled the world and open up their mind. They are easily disturbed by propaganda by some racist political party to fan up the issue. Shame on us..
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Post time 5-1-2010 01:48 PM | Show all posts
siapa marina tu yg nak bg statement pasal isu ni?? :@
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Post time 5-1-2010 01:49 PM | Show all posts
baru aku faham..
Che Det salu hujah atas fakta,,,
e-mag Post at 5-1-2010 13:44

Kalau dia masih PM tak timbul cerita orang Islam melatah tak tentu pasai ni.
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Post time 5-1-2010 01:53 PM | Show all posts
bagi akulah perkara nie dapat dielak klu semua org bertolak ansur dan berfikiran positif pasal kalimah Allah nie klu kat sarawak mmg dah lama diorg pakai aku ada gak tanya mak aku sbb dier dulu pun kristian dier kata mmg dah lama perkataan tu Allah taala kat bible so bg aku menda yg Marina cakap ada betul nya sebab Allah bukan untuk kiter umat Islam sahaja Allah adalah milik semua umat manusia yg diciptakannya cuma cara kiter worship Allah berbeza  dan pendapat aku gak maybe dalam umat kristian dah ada nabi Isa  nak turun untuk menyeru umat nya kembali kejalan yg benar iaini menyembah Allah S.W.T penggunaan Allah boleh diguna oleh org kristian dan Islam sebab kedua-dua kitab injil dan Al-quran diturunkan oleh Allah so sebagai hamba Allah dimuka bumi kiter tiada hak untuk mempertikaikan sapa yg berhak menggunakan kalimah Allah dengan syarat haruslah menghormati kalimah tersebut dan percayai bahawa Allah adalah tuhan yang satu ..inilah pendapat aku dan sebarang komen nak marah ke aper ke aku tak kisah sebab inilah pendirian aku
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Post time 5-1-2010 01:53 PM | Show all posts
Lirik Allah Peduli – Agnes Monica

                                                       

Banyak perkara yang tak dapat ku mengerti
Mengapakah harus terjadi
Di dalam kehidupan ini
Suatu perkara yang
ku simpan dalam hati
Tiada satupun kan terjadi tanpa Allah perduli

Allah mengerti
Allah peduli


Segala persoalan yg kita hadapi
Tak akan pernah di biarkanya ku bergumul sendiri
Sbab Allah mengerti

Allah mengerti
Allah peduli
Segala persoalan yg kita hadapi
Tak akan pernah di biarkanya ku bergumul sendiri
Sbab Allah Yesus ku
mengerti
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Post time 5-1-2010 01:56 PM | Show all posts
awat ayah dia cakap cam lain dia cam lain...??

aku..hmm no komeng...
alahai Post at 5-1-2010 13:03


tak boleh berbeza pendapat kah antara anak dan bapa??
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Post time 5-1-2010 01:56 PM | Show all posts
12# anya8797

...coming from someone who is encouraging people to wear condom for casual sex, Marina is a joke!
ifanonline Post at 5-1-2010 13:30

like father like daughter
both jokers :pompom:
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:00 PM | Show all posts
siapa marina tu yg nak bg statement pasal isu ni?? :@
myazura Post at 5-1-2010 13:48


nyah kalau kau baca blog dia..
dia puj expect melayu islam bangsat akan persoalkan tulisan dia sbb dia takde tauliah..
so dia suruh abca pendapat org yg ada tauliah pula..
so marina bagi link ni utk org2 melayu bangsat baca pula
http://drmaza.com/home/?p=566#more-566
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:00 PM | Show all posts
actually its umno's ploy
http://malaysiakini.com/news/121122
Hibiscus: The controversy regarding use of term 'Allah' by non-Muslims was started by Umno leaders using the Home Ministry. It is a recent invention to create the feeling among Muslims that they need Umno's protection. Statements by Umno leaders seem to be prompting Muslim voters to feel confused and threatened. The issue is even dividing PAS and this is in line with Umno's ploy.

The issue seems to be part of Umno's political strategy in readiness for the next general election. Umno is playing for high stakes - it is prepared to lose the votes of the non-Muslims and of other BN component parties and also to lose all their seats in constituencies where non-Muslims form the majority. All this in exchange for the Muslim vote.

That the other component parties of BN are strangely quiet attest to their agreement to Umno's plan. The strategy is to regain power, like in Perak, where Umno predominates on the government side in the state assembly while members of the other component parties are given minor posts. Umno is risking the well-being of country for its political plans.
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:00 PM | Show all posts
25# seribulan

Lirik lagu Agnes Monica ni sah sah mengaut. Allah adalah Tuhan. Yesus ada lah nabi suruhan tuhan. Allah bukan jesus dan jesus bukan Allah.
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:00 PM | Show all posts
Kukuh jugak hujah MArina nieee
ColbyRaikkonen Post at 5-1-2010 12:54

At least orang nampak jugaklah ada Muslim yang berpelajaran dan fair minded bila baca tulisan Marina ni. Ini dia tulis dalam column dia dithe Star ka?
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:02 PM | Show all posts
Who is Marina to talk about Islam? Baik aku layan pendapat Ron Jeremy ngan Peter North...sekurang-kurangnya depa berdua expert dlm bidang depa...
ifanonline Post at 5-1-2010 13:38


setuju dengan pakcik..
rama2 pun x layak nak beri pendapat sebenarnya..
perkara macam ni eloklah rujuk dengan ahlilnya..
moga kita semua tidak dalam kesesatan..
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:03 PM | Show all posts
25# seribulan  

Lirik lagu Agnes Monica ni sah sah mengaut. Allah adalah Tuhan. Yesus ada lah nabi suruhan tuhan. Allah bukan jesus dan jesus bukan Allah.
Bell Post at 5-1-2010 14:00


kenapa kau kesah sgt pasal agama lain??
kalau rasa nak pegi dakwah monica tuh.. pegi la dakwah elok2...
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:03 PM | Show all posts
25# seribulan  

Lirik lagu Agnes Monica ni sah sah mengaut. Allah adalah Tuhan. Yesus ada lah nabi suruhan tuhan. Allah bukan jesus dan jesus bukan Allah.
Bell Post at 5-1-2010 14:00


bell, fyi agnes tu kristian..
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:04 PM | Show all posts
nyah kalau kau baca blog dia..
dia puj expect melayu islam bangsat akan persoalkan tulisan dia sbb dia takde tauliah..
so dia suruh abca pendapat org yg ada tauliah pula..
so marina bagi link ni utk org2 melayu bangsat baca pula
http://drmaza.com/home/?p=566#more-566

Selma_Jeskova Post at 5-1-2010 14:00


Elokgak tt bukakk thread ni Selma. Melayu bangsat jarang baca blog dia rasanya.....
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:04 PM | Show all posts
Lirik Allah Peduli – Agnes Monica

                                                       

Banyak perkara yang tak dapat ku mengerti
Mengapakah harus terjadi
Di dalam kehidupan in ...
seribulan Post at 5-1-2010 13:53

lawa Agnes Monica tuu...
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:04 PM | Show all posts
kenapa kau kesah sgt pasal agama lain??
kalau rasa nak pegi dakwah monica tuh.. pegi la dakwah elok2...
Selma_Jeskova Post at 5-1-2010 14:03


betul..pegi dakwah elok2..
gunakan bahasa elok2..
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:06 PM | Show all posts
like father like daughter
both jokers :pompom:
kekbelacan Post at 5-1-2010 13:56


at least this time around their idea differs...
ni asik jilatsssssssssss saje kesana sini......:pompom:
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:10 PM | Show all posts
kenapa kau kesah sgt pasal agama lain??
kalau rasa nak pegi dakwah monica tuh.. pegi la dakwah elok2...
Selma_Jeskova Post at 5-1-2010 14:03

Setuju dengan Selma. Cakap dengan dia baik baik hikmah poligami ka, bulu mana yang sunat dicukur dan bulu mana yang harom dicukur dalam Islam ka, hukum kulom kulom ka, hukum makan pisang berbaja taik babi ka, kaki mana masuk jamban dulu ka.....tontu dia akan tertarik....
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Post time 5-1-2010 02:11 PM | Show all posts
anya suka tajuk"confident people do not get confused"...and i would add  "easily"......
a simple line which is the gist to the lengthy albeit good explanation of the view presented....
anya8797 Post at 5-1-2010 13:16


AN pun tak konfius..sebab AN boleh bezakan..cuma AN persoalkan kenapa depa nak jugak guna nama Allah tu sedangkan nama tuhan ada..guna la nama tuhan tu...so...tak ada sapa nak marah bak kata Tun M tu..
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