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Kes DSAI lagi - tolong komen dengan rasional
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Reply 19# kekbelacan
jgn citer banyak bro................
desak je anwar tu..............bagi je DNA.......tutup sikit mulut dorang tu.......... |
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najib la..rosmah la...dey..kalau x liwat..nape takut bagi DNA |
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ape susah????
buat jer 2 perkara ni tentu selesai secepat mungkin
1. Jangan asyik mitak tangguh perbicaraan. kalau asyik tertangguh sampai bila nak setel perbicaraan. hakim nak bagi penghakiman pun tak boleh
Statement paling ngok penah aku jumpa...hehe. Siap tanya ape susah tuuuuuuuuuu...
LAWAK GILER KALAU HAKIM NAK BAGI PENGHAKIMAN PUN TAK BOLEH SBB PEGUAMBELA ASYIK MINTAK TANGGUH...hehe. Ni sah2 statement dari sorang yg zero knowledge ttg prosedur2 dlm perbicaraan. Hellooooo....BILA MASA HAKIM NAK BG PENGHAKIMAN KALAU PENDAKWA PUN TERABA2 NAK CARI BUKTI KUKUH??? Bukti2 ditolak aritu taknak cakap peguambela yg tolak jgk ke?
Cuba gi sembang dgn lawyer & gitau statement ko tadi kat lawyer, konfem kena gelak sbb hakim boley dok tertunggu2 nak bagi judgment disbbkan asyik tertangguh dek peguambela.... Mmg lawak antarabangsa!!! |
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wayang takkan habis, kalau asik minta tangguh2...kasi DNA hari ni minggu ni kes kompom selesai.. ...
Anak_Nogori Post at 21-3-2011 12:36 
Rupanya bg puak2 UMNGOK, kesimpulan kpd tugas hakim dlm perbicaraan ialah melayan setiap permintaan penangguhan kes dari peguambela atau tertuduh....Hakim takleh buat keputusan sendiri sbb once peguambela cakap "Yg Arif, sila tangguhkan kes" & trus hakim setuju je.. Best btul! Kalau gitu pasni nak cadang kpd rakan2 peguam yg jd peguambela supaya setiap kali takde idea nak fight case, just mintak tangguh je extempore sbb hakim mesti kena ikut setiap permintaan tangguh...
Hakim takde kuasa nak tolak permohonan tangguh la ye...? Atau mmg bukti tak cukup that's why terpaksa tangguh? |
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Reply kekbelacan
jgn citer banyak bro................
desak je anwar tu..............bagi je DNA.......tutup sikit mulut dorang tu..........
donbotak Post at 21-3-2011 14:09
jgn risau mmg PR tengah nak bagi DNA (Dato Najib Altantuya) secara 'road show'.
.....nak bagi 'tutup mulut diorang' la. |
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najib la..rosmah la...dey..kalau x liwat..nape takut bagi DNA
hafiz18 Post at 21-3-2011 14:40
Dey, kalau taktau ape kes ni baik diam jee... Ko same je dok melalak suruh DSAI bagi DNA dia. Ape ko ingat perbicaraan akan sampai ke deadlock ke setakat isu DNA nih? Biar le hakim, pendakwa & peguambela buat keje masing2...ko layman better buat cara layman... |
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tu ler masalah nya
kan DNA lama dah ada?
apasal tak guna? DNA firaun pun bole guna lagi inikan pul ...
kekbelacan Post at 21-3-2011 13:45
Alamak bro!tertinggal ketapi lagi ker!DNA yg lama tu dh dimusnahkan oleh pakar kimia Lim Kong Boon
Sbb beliau tak dpt mensahihkannya.Beliau diberi 13 keratan dr tompokan (yg dipercayai air mani) atas tilam
& mengujinya tp tak pasti ttg sumber DNA tersebut.Oleh sbb tu Hakim Datuk Augustine Paul meminda
pertuduhan tersebut kerna tiada bukti jelas sumbernya!...... |
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Dey, kalau taktau ape kes ni baik diam jee... Ko same je dok melalak suruh DSAI bagi DNA d ...
PitMie Post at 21-3-2011 15:35
kau mcm tau sgt kes nie...kalau dah DNA pada tuala tu sume karpal pusing tu suruh reject sbb diambil tanpa kebenaran..so skrg nk minta kebenaran nuar la bagi DNA..nape x nk bagi? takut kantoi ke sbb DNA laki Y tu mmg nuar punye? |
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Post Last Edit by Al Lebam at 23-3-2011 13:10
Statement paling ngok penah aku jumpa...hehe. Siap tanya ape susah tuuuuuuuuuu...
LAWAK GIL ...
PitMie Post at 21-3-2011 15:02
inilah akibatnya kalau setakat jadi process server kat pejabat loyar tapi asyik membangang kan orang kehulu kehilr seolah2 dia sorang je yang mahir undang2.
kes ni dah berapa tahun??? dari 2009 dan sampai 2011 masih tak settle first phase iaitu bagi hakim utk determine whether pendakwa has a prima facie dan memerintahkan defence yakni anwar to enter his defence.
kenapa ini terjadi? sbb dari hari pertama hearing.. team defence anwar menggunakan pelbagai helah in the books to delay the hearing for reasons best known only to them. Ada bongok2 dari PR macam siPitme akan berkata.. hakim la yang bersalah yang menyebabkan kes ni tertunda kerana membenarkan permohonan peguambela. Pada hal apa akan jadi kalau hakim tolak permohonan peguambela and proceed with the hearing?? Kalau la pengalaman dalam kes yang lalu dijadikan kayu ukur.. one does not has to be a rocket scientist to figure that out... Mantra2 spt hakim kena beli la.. hakim upahan la.. hakim zalim la.. hakim umno la.. hakim zalim la.. hakim tak adil la... akan jadi ratiban kaldai2 PR.
Betulkah pendakwa teraba2 dlm mencari bukti. Pendakwa dah ready dgn segala bukti yang perlu utk mengaitkan anwar dgn jenayah meliwat yang dilakukannya dan seterusnya membuktikan prima facie beyond reasonable doubt. Tetapi spt yang kita ketahui atas bantahan dan permohonan peguambela, hakim menolak ketiga2 barang2 bukti yang boleh mengaitkan anwar secara conclusive dgn jenayah tersebut, hence proving prima facie beyond reasonable doubt supaya membolehkan anwar diperintah membela diri. But this is the law of natural justice.... the important ingredient here is always and must be "beyond reasonable doubt" . Given the circumstances the sources of Anwar's DNA sample were obtained, to my mind the learned judge has correctly judged as it is, as to preclude the element of doubt however reasonable it may be.
Dan seperti pelawak2 sitcom, ada jugak kaldai2 bongok dari PR yang berlagak seolah2 pandai dalam undang2 akan cakap kenapa tak gunakan saja DNA profile 1998 punya. Pada hal itu memerlukan satu akta yang membolehkan pengunaan data bank tersebut terutama bagi maksud pendakwaan dsb.nya. Oleh sebab itulah satu usul yang dikenali sbg Akta DNA telah dibawa ke Parlimen dalam bulan Ogos 2008 untuk bacaan pertama tetapi kerana banyak bantahan dari pembangkang (yang kata kononnya AKTA tersebut bertujuan utk menaniayai anwar) usul tersebut telah ditarik balik. Kerajaan bertindak demikian kerana tanpa majoriti 2/3 dalam Parlimen sudah pasti ia akan menjadi an exercise in futility.
Jadi sekarang the ball is at anwar's feet. He should voluntarily give his body sample so that a DNA analysis can be done and profile can be obtained without a shred of doubt and let the experts in that field compare his DNA profile with that of Male Y which was deposited in Sepol's anus. Simple as that.
With that in order, the learned judge should be able to dispense justice accordingly in the shortest time possible.
Simple and Period. |
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kau mcm tau sgt kes nie...kalau dah DNA pada tuala tu sume karpal pusing tu suruh reject s ...
hafiz18 Post at 21-3-2011 15:54
Hehe...yg ko melalak suruh DSAI bg DNA ni ko tak rase mcm bangang ke??? Ko tak rase hakim, pendakwa & peguambela taktau mcmana nak handle situasi begini semasa perbicaraan ke? Ni lah kalau banyak baca akhbar UMNGOK...takleh nak pikir ape dah just dok melalak isu yg dimainkan akhbar UMNGOK dek kerana bukti2 yg ditolak..
Dah hakim amik keputusan utk tolak bukti2 atas alasan2 yg dinyatakan, lagi peguambela yg kena ke? Bg aku kalau beginilah kepercayaan puak2 UMNGOK, aku cadang supaya DSAI trus enggan melayan permintaan2 bodoh ni sbb nak tgk ape plak isu lain yg akan timbul lepas ni... Blum trbukti ape2 lagi ko dah cakap DSAI takut DNAnya sama dgn DNA laki 'Y', as expected dari puak2 UMNGOK. Judgment diorang datang lebih awal dari judgment hakim yg bicara kes...awal2 lg dok anggap DSAI bersalah, mmg kalau bg DNA or tak sama je.... |
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Masalahnyer......korang hingat Anwat ni berani ker?... Anwat bukan bodoh nyer kaki... dari awal2 die nak top dulu pon bukan susah sgt kekdahnyer... tolong pi mogok pasal rega getah jer kat Baling, Kedah beramai2...Dah tau kalau bg DNA konfom kantoi ... nak bg wat pe?.. sekarang ni dia dah konfom menang... Berani kerana benar ker... Barani berjuang ker (ADA HAKU KESAH???)... standby jer la Kerajaan kne bayar ape2 pampasan nanti ni.... maunyer kne taruk minyak siap2 kat montot Najib ni... |
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najib la..rosmah la...dey..kalau x liwat..nape takut bagi DNA
hafiz18 Post at 21-3-2011 14:40
the defence punya line of defence adalah to create doubt.
so far.. they have done a good job...
kalau anwar bagi dia punya DNA secara sukarela... tak dak dah la element of doubt tu..
dan anwar juga tahun kalau dia bagi secara sukarela gerenti check-mate punya sbb dia pun 100% tahu profile DNA male y tu milik sapa...
abehlah angan2 nak duduk kat Kediaman Rasmi Perdana Menteri yang dia suruh arkitek buat rekabentuk ikut citarasa dia dulu.. |
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kes ni dah berapa tahun??? dari 2009 dan sampai 2011 masih tak settle first phase iaitu bagi hakim utk determine whether pendakwa has a prima facie dan memerintahkan defence yakni anwar to enter his defence.
Whose fault is that? Defence council's??? It's hilarious that even until to date, the learned judge is still unable to determine whether prima facie of the case becoz of defence council's attitude??? Or it is becoz of prosecutor's failure to prove his case accordingly?
al Lebam, whose article you copied just now? It's as if the hearing thus far has been carried out in full transparency & honesty. It only says how wicked DSAI's defence council in manipulating the judge towards adjournments of this case. It also explains how successful the prosecutor in proving their case, that it could've been highly successful had the defence council avoided the 'adjournment tactics'.
This is none other than an attempt to say how important it is for DSAI to voluntarily submit his body fluid for DNA profiling...which is so paramount that should he fail to do as such, this case will remain uncertain...or in other words, his refusal might amount to a deadlock. It also implies that the judge & prosecutor can do nothing due to such refusal.
Come on...who are we to teach them on how to resolve this matter in relation to DSAI's DNA for a comparison with 'male Y's DNA. Just let these people to figure out themselves rather than trying to be heroes. |
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Whose fault is that? Defence council's??? It's hilarious that even until to date, the learned ju ...
al Lebam, whose article you copied just now? It's as if the hearing thus far has been carried out in full transparency & honesty. It only says how wicked DSAI's defence council in manipulating the judge towards adjournments of this case. It also explains how successful the prosecutor in proving their case, that it could've been highly successful had the defence council avoided the 'adjournment tactics'.
PitMie Post at 21-3-2011 16:37
why the need to ask whose article I cut and paste?? It is as if I cant write one? One's Intelligent is god (Allah) given and not a privilege to a you only (if at all you consider you are intelligent) Therefore stop underestimating people's intellect as you are prone to. I dont need to cut and paste other people's article to argue my case intelligently.
So now you are saying the case is not being heard in full transparency and honesty??
dont be so naive la....
who initiated the appeals after appeals to have the hearing adjourned all this while????
isnt it the defence team??? or it is the judge who at his whim and fancy adjourned the hearing so that he can have orgasm every time he adjourned the hearing????
any tom dick and harry will know this is tactical approach by the defense bench for obvious reason.
It can be hilarious to you but justice is no laughing matter. Justice is a double edge sword. It cuts both ways. Justice for the accused and justice for the victim. Now the judge has ordered the DNA sample were not acceptable as exhibits due to the circumstances they were obtained. That is justice for Anwar. But what about justice for Sepol? Justice for sepol demands that anwar gives his DNA sample so that the analysis and comparison can be done conclusively. That will determine the truth of the matter and justice be dispense where it is due.
N/B: I did not cut paste anyone's article for this write up... if you know what I mean.. |
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Reply 10# Anak_Nogori
benda mudah mcm tu pun puak puak pembangkang ni tak nampak |
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DNA yang dulu memang takboleh digunakan ke? Serius juge kalau dah sampai ada piket minta kasi DNA.
Aku sekrang nak piket sbb rege ayam makin naik..susah la kalau aku tak makan ayam setiap hari..ikan tak brape  |
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Reply 17# donbotak
dia takut kena cucuk... |
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Post Last Edit by jojiekejung at 22-3-2011 17:21
Laaaa ......
Mak yang ala ala keje mekap & beauty ni pun tau DNA dulu tak boleh pakai BECAUSE of ruling. Kalau boleh pakai, lama dah setel kes ni.
Hingatkan uolss sume tau kes dulu pendakwa tak dpt buat PF/BRD sbb ruling, bukan sbb dna tu "failed in due process aka tak match".
Patutla pelik je tgk apasal org duk suruh pkai DNA yg dulu rupenye tak tau citer ....
Anyway ... please continue .... |
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betul ke kes DSAI ni akan digugurkan sebab semasa perbicaraan sedang berlangsung pihak pendakwa baru nak cari bukti bukan sebelum perbicaraan bermula dulu.
Maksudnya tak releven baru nak cari DNA untuk meneruskan pendakwaan? |
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