M-MRCA utk TUDM

windof

419# escortburuk

betul, tp tu utk ganti 737-400. latest one nih utk ganti the current 330s....
to be exact, we wanna the enhanced 330... tp, dont mark my words... tunggu Lima...

windof

420# escortburuk

mungkin ada yg common ngan su30 epos... thales avionics, damocles, misil2 pon mungkin interoperatable, pendekata, luar mungkin nampak lain, tapi dalam tarak sapa yg tau.... mungkin la...

innocentti

puhh...rafale plak dah.. mahal tu..timbal balas macamana ler?

super_nova

minyak sawit la kot...

cmf_nando

Bajet 2010 sudah kasi petujuk. Tiada harapan ada lagi m-mrca (baru0 bagi rmaf utk 5 tahun akan datang. tak percaya?

jingojigger

400# jingojigger

Tuan kelana tak mention umur dia...but I guess that 2-engined aircraft is the good old F-5E....or the Hornet....or the Fulcrum itself....
alphawolf Post at 26-10-2009 14:41

Hehe..DHC4 Caribou pun bley....hhehe, tapi the best bet tetap..F5...light fighter paling seksi di donia...Tuan..Kelana..citer la cikit cikit...nostalgia..yang mana tak sensitip la ya...tq

kelana36

426# jingojigger


Gi tengok movie Wira Angkasa , hehe



Look like Malaysia following Brazils footstep, started with the submarine, choppers and the Rafale.
Tambah lagi dengan new A330 for MAS.

Start learning French guys !!!

jingojigger

427# kelana36


Wallaaa....tres bien ..... tapi tak kan la Rafale ...?? Ke ..pasal Damocles tu ...barang baik?

Wira Angkasa ka Tuan??? hahaha dah layan lapan belas kali dah....F 5 meletop kelakar la plak..
tapi..best gak ...

rastablank

Huhu, Military Planner kita ambil dasar pandang ke French ke skang neyh? Scorpene, Airbus, VAB apc, Caesar, Mistral, latest Rafale? Huhu, klau dpt timbal balas yg best aku rasa 2nd batch frigates blehla amik La Fayette punya platform, wa berkenan sangat la~

destroyer

Ambik FREMM daripada France lebih best daripada UK punya Lekiu Batch II


429# rastablank

kelana36

398# kelana36
cerita la sikit bro, kelebihan twin enjin berbanding single dlm pertempuran udara.... dlm spektrum dog fight, wvr engagement  dan bvr....
windof Post at 25-10-2009 09:07

In a close air combat, or WVR engagement, in 1 V 1 situation, energy management is very important either to stay offensive i.e staying behind the enemy 3 and 9 oclock wing line, or to maneouver in order to out turn the enemy in case of ended up in defensive siuation. Basically dua2 akan fly at corner velocity,around 375 knots, where the best lift can be achieve to ensure the best turn rate and the smallest radius of turn. In the process, 4/5 G required to maintain the turn and of course high power setting required. Even doing 60 deg AOB ,2 G level turn pun on lite aircraft required almost full power. For single engine aircraft, after burner selalunya required to sustain the turn and speed, kalau tak terpaksa la trade of dengan altitude. For twin engine, normally can sustain longer for additional 1 or 2 turns. So bayangkan la kalau losing ,energy ,speed and height or kinetic and potential,both at the same time, nak dapat balik is not that fast. Remember,lost energy mean lost the fight. To get back the speed , have to reduce the bank and unload the plane to 1/4 G at least to get the best accelaration. Kalau you are defensive, that 4/5 sec accelaration  or EXTENSION as the fighters jargon says, the guy behind can gain at least 60 deg turning toward you, and FOX2. Normally twin engines planes, the combat thrust to weight ratio is more than 1:1, mean it still can accelerate eventhough flying vertical,so gaining both kinetic and potential at the same time . Classic eg, Rafale punya 1.13 and Gripen 0.94 . And the wing loading of Rafale also lower then Gripen, means Rafale can turn better.  

My experience, 1V1 against F16 USAF, RAF Harrier, eventhough guna F5, no problem to capture them in my gunsight without them having any of my image in their video. Yang ada cuma RWR and Betty voice dia org jer sebuk sebab kerap kena lock on and track. Against sama2 gang, A4,MB339 or Hawk ,tak payah cerita la. Against F18, F5 memang kalah la kalau Iv1.

For BVR, its merely depending on the the tactics employed. Basically not much different either 1 or 2 engines, its more like electronic warfare. We used to have 2V2 against USN F14 but they have to give us handicap, no AAMRAM, ASRAM only inside 15 nm. What we did,fly very close formation during ingress, switch of the radar so that they cant detect our radar signal, approaching 15nm splitted left n right , high and low, confusing their weapon officer at the back to select which target to point. If they steer toward the left guy, the other one will convert into them and the one under pursuit turn away and accelarate, stay away at least 6 nm, so that they cant fire their missile. Air Defence Controller play a very important role here to tell us the direction and distant of the bandits and so we play cat n mouse tactic. Finally ,with the small size hard to see F5s, at least one of us happily parked behind them. I got a nice pic of the Tomcat , terkangkang squarely in my gunsight. Terkangkang sebab dia ended up at low speed and the wing automatically swept out.

Well, thats about it, unless somebody ask q,  old habit die hard, fighter pilot memang like to tell stories, haha

atreyudevil

431# kelana36

Huh!, Interesting.. by all means go ahead and tell all of it...

escortburuk

422# windof

Mungkin gak dari segi avionics.

Tapi mahal laa... Aku suspect ac ni cam mahal je kos maintenance dia... French mungkin tawarkan harga yg menarik sbb depa desperate nak wat sales, tapi kos maintenance tatau lagi. Takut dia cam keta Proton Savvy, murah utk dibeli, mahal utk dimaintain... Yang menakutkan lagi, Savvy pakai enjin Renault (enjin French) hehehe

jofizo

Bajet 2010 sudah kasi petujuk. Tiada harapan ada lagi m-mrca (baru0 bagi rmaf utk 5 tahun akan datang. tak percaya?
cmf_nando Post at 26-10-2009 19:18

tak jugak, bajet 2010 utk thn depan jer........ biasanya perolehan aset nih dibuat dlm RMK .....

jofizo

Huhu, Military Planner kita ambil dasar pandang ke French ke skang neyh? Scorpene, Airbus, VAB apc, Caesar, Mistral, latest Rafale? Huhu, klau dpt timbal balas yg best aku rasa 2nd batch frigates bleh ...
rastablank Post at 26-10-2009 23:18

btoi....3x, mana la tau kot ctrm dpt lagi kontrak sbg timbal-balas rafale nih......

jofizo

430# destroyer


FREMM cunnn tapi $$$$$..........???

areguard

431# kelana36

Salute teman kepada Tuan Kelana dpt "kill" the venerable Tomcat, opportunity to only handful of people on the planet.
Err..boleh post pic tak??

kelana36

] 437# areguard

Thanks to the F5 agility, small radar crosssection area, hard to see, just like a needle in the sky. And the most important, our extra pairs of eyes on ground, the Air Defence Controller.

Sebelum airborne , we must have a plan how to engage and kill the bogey by studying the adversaries performance namely their best speed and altitude for the best turn rate and turn radius, their regime of fight, the specific excess energy or Ps, semua tu ada di EM Energy Maneuveribility chart. Each fighter plane ada chart masing2. So kita compare and workout a tactic that force them to enter our regime and avoid fighting in the regime that they have more advantage. Kita kena tau jugak what type of armament yg dia bawak, every types of missile ada cara dia nak defeat. With all the informations, we discuss with the Air Defence Controller yg akan guide kita and come up with a solid tactic. Lepas tu brief everyone on each specific task before we get airborne. Bukan simply airborne jer buta2, buang duit kerajaan jer, hehe.

  Ermmm, let me see if I can find the album where I keep all the Fox 3 shot taken from my gunsight. Lama dah, sure berabuk.

saden

Huhu, Military Planner kita ambil dasar pandang ke French ke skang neyh? Scorpene, Airbus, VAB apc, Caesar, Mistral, latest Rafale? Huhu, klau dpt timbal balas yg best aku rasa 2nd batch frigates bleh ...
rastablank Post at 26-10-2009 23:18

timbal balas yg best hantar awek2 french yg cun2 ke sini la

saden

431# kelana36

wauuuuuuuu!!!!! :pompom: