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Reply #419 tin's post
Camner nak kurus ? Makan cam gajah. Tak minum air tau. Minum susu jer. Susu kambing |
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In other words, you cannot prove that Singapore has them.
Bagusla kalau ko dah mengaku tak ada persenjataan itu semua.
Tapi jangan bimbang. Kalau singapura ada itu semua pun tak guna. Tanpa radar pengesan meriam dan pesawat AEW (yg dimusnahkan Kh-31), Astros yang membedil dari 20km pun korang tetap tak boleh kesan.
Aper kao boleh proof Malaysia beli SS-80/SS-90 daripada government sources?  Jangan rujuk Tempur tau. Itu majalah privet sahaja.
However, it is true that SG did purchase GMLRS. And now we know the range exceeds 85km for precision accuracy shots. You can find it from the US Foriegn military sales site. Aku malas cari.
Lagipun, SG jarang sekali melaporkan pembelian weapon daripada Israel.
Sebenarnyer aku tak kisah kalo engkau tak caya. Aku cuma katakan, SG bought the launcher with the capability to fire all these rockets. Lagipun, aku rasa lebih baiklah kalo it keeps u guessing yer. Jangan marah yer. Sekadar perbincangan jer.
Hei kawan. KH-31 merupakan air to surface misel ler. Camner nak tembak kapal terbang AEW?
[ Last edited by belacan79 at 1-2-2009 09:05 PM ] |
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Do you know what our artillery will do to your satellite earth stations when war breaks out ? That sitting duck will be the first to go !! Well, that抯 the point. You will not see first and you will not shoot first.
You mean you know exactly where our mobile(continously on the move)and fxed radars are? Wow. Even i do not know. SG`s ground radars has a range of 400-450km. Add that to the Phalcon AWAC`s 400 km and it exceeds 800 km. Of course we will see first. Lagipun, you nak tembak aper sekarang? Runaway ke? Jalanraya ker? Radar ke?
[ Last edited by belacan79 at 1-2-2009 09:01 PM ] |
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[quote]Kedudukan meriam sentiasa akan berubah. 慚engenalpasti |
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Memang lah. Malaysia kini sudah memiliki bilangan pesawat tempur yang memuaskan.
Jumlah R-77 dan AIM-120 yang boleh dibawa sukhoi serta hornet adalah sebanyak 212 .
Mig-29 pula boleh mengimbangi kelemahan radarnya dengan membawa R-27 yang dilengkapi penderia infra merah serta jarak operasi 120km. Maka jika dakwaan 200 jet singapura itu benar sekalipun dan dengan mengandaikan kesemuanya berjaya berlepas ke udara sebelum landasan masing-masing dimusnahkan, ia masih tidak akan menjadi masalah untuk TUDM.
200 jets ?
I don抰 know how some wikipedia whacko came up with such figure.
But anyway it makes no difference to Malaysia. The only meaningful frontline fighters Singapore possess from now until 2012 are the 70+ F-16s and 12 F-15s . And they both have profound weaknesses against Malaysian migs and sukhois which I will elaborate below.
Banyakneyer jet pejuang. Sukhois pun lum habis hantar dan habeh bayar tul tak lobai? Ader bukti weapon untuk Cik su sudah dibeli? 18 Sukhoi +14 hornet + 8 FA18 C/D versus 24 F15SG, 70+ F16s C/D Blk 52 and 50 F5 S/T. Older Super Skyhawks are in reserve storage; around 40-60.
Alahai. Hornet boleh bawa Amraam ke? Dengar dengar waiting for upgred from US. My ader beli R-27 ke? Ader bukti?  Apasal Mig nak reitre tahun 2010 lak? Sg amraam C5 goes further than 105km. Amraam C7 goes further than 130km. Dengan megunakan AWAC, Sg jet will always see first and shoot first.
Sg F5 S/T are heavily upgraded with new radar and the ability to shoot Amraams. Together with really low RCS and superb maneuverability and AWACs, it will kill Sukhois, Migs and Hornets. |
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Assuming some Singaporean fighters managed to escape attention from Malaysian AAMs long enough to search for our artilleries, their SAR radars and sniper pods are still useless for detecting weapons hidden under the Metrokoats camouflage. This camouflage technology is so effective even the USAF imported them from malaysia
You need to be in the clearing to fire and youll need to move. Newer SAR radars can even see through tree foliage and camoflage;
http://www.srcinc.com/common/downloads/whats_new/FORESTER_SIGNAL%20June%202007_pg39.pdf
There is another similar radar from IAI Israel. SG UAVs, for example, already have that capability. Rujuk kepada South Africa exercise tahun lepas. Lagi satu, AWAC Phalcon are being used by Israel to detect ballistic missile launchers. And much more. My point is the diverse detection assets Sg already have.
[quote]Since when did singapore has F-16I ?
It doesn't matter.
Just like the AH-64 揊lying Coffin |
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Reply #425 belacan79's post
Wehh...belacan, ko dah banyak makan belacan nih...  |
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Reply #427 tangopapa's post
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Memang tuh. habeh aku tak selera nak makan hari nih. Tapi tak kisah ler. botakchin punyer ilmu ader poweerrrrr. jarak jauh. |
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Reply #428 belacan79's post
pergi mana wekend lepas bai? bila nak bawak aku jalan2 sentosa cari makan?  |
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Reply #429 tangopapa's post
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Aku kerja lah. Kerja aku kadang kadang tak megikut jadual waktu yang sepatutnyer. Lagi lagi musim Gong Xi Fa Cai. Ramai yang ambil cuti. Buat aper datang Sentosa cari makan. Program TV jalan jalan cari makan tak pernah datang sini. Woiii...yang pumpuan host tuh dah gemuk enk. Asyik dapat makan free kot. |
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Ok last post untuk Saudara BotakChin aku.
Of course singapore has to adopt a pre emptive strike policy. This open secret is the only realistic chance they have to defeat Malaysia.
If Malaysia strikes first, singapore抯 chances of survival is zero.
But singaporeans need to understand that being the first to strike is one thing. Getting the desired result is a different matter altogether.
Why is singapore`s chances zero should malaysia strike first ? It wont stop SG from invading you to defend herself. It wont kill SG`s equipmen as they are heavily protected. Sg`s jets will still fly from alternative routes. Furthermore, wars do not happen overnight and suddenly. In times of possible conflict, you can be rest assured that a lot of RSAF`s assets will be activated, in the air and ready to strike. Siaper siaper yang tinggal dekat Tengah dan Paya lebar tahu ler how fast they scramble.
In order to beat Malaysia, Singapore needs to knock out our air force and artillery quickly
but the problem is, once they enter Malaysian air space to attack air force bases in kuantan, gong kedak and butterworth, even the mig-29s stationed at kuantan will have sufficient time to scramble. They will then speed northwards to build a comfortable distance of 120km before turning around to launch the 120km range R-27ET before flying northwards again to stay clear of singaporean amraam range. When the sukhois from gong kedak join the fight they have the option of launching both the R-27ET as well as the 130km R-27AE while maintaining a safe distance from the enemy.
With this tactic of firing missiles and at the same time denying the enemy any opportunity to shoot back, Malaysia will maximize singaporean casualties while suffering zero losses herself. Even AWACS and tanker aircrafts won抰 be spared. To put it bluntly, this air to air engagement will be a turkey shoot.
Di sini, aku tak nak cakap banyak. Ini kena pakai otak sikit ler. SG will detect your planes from Gong Kedak, butterworth, etc long before you reach SG. SG planes already in the air and those that will scramble will deal with your small number of planes.
So, ader bukti tak RMAF dah beli misel misel tuh? Seperti maner aku tanyer tadi. Eheheh. SG memang dah beli Amraam C5s/C7s.
[quote]The other problem facing a singaporean surprise attack is that our artilleries will not open fire during the 憈urkey shoot. |
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Reply #433 belacan79's post
sape yang dah tua nih? anak pompuan datin tu ke mak sedara ko?  |
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Originally posted by belacan79 at 1-2-2009 09:40 PM 
Sg amraam C5 goes further than 105km. Amraam C7 goes further than 130km.
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Im sorry to be the one telling you this, but AIM-120C-7 range is not more than 120km
while the C5 cannot go more than 105 km.
The F-15SG top speed is mach 2.5 while the sukhoi top speed is mach 2.35
But the 6.4% speed advantage the f-15 has over the sukhoi-30 is cancelled out by the 8.3% range advantage of the R-27AE over the AIM-120C-7.
That means the 憂o escape zone |
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It takes over 2 years for Amraams to be delivered. Singaporean AMRAAM C7 order was placed in the middle of last year. That means for the next 18 months, Malaysia holds a huge advantage over them.
But don抰 get me wrong. Singapore will still become victims of our zombie shoot even after taking deliveries of AIM-120C-7 middle of next year. The only difference is that the 憐ombie shoot |
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Originally posted by belacan79 at 1-2-2009 09:40 PM
Older Super Skyhawks are in reserve storage; around 40-60.
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Sg F5 S/T are heavily upgraded with new radar and the ability to shoot Amraams. Together with really low RCS and superb maneuverability and AWACs, it will kill Sukhois, Migs and Hornets.
Yeah. Those slow pathetic F-5s and Skyhawks will be first class cannon fodder for our long range R-27s.
Since only 128 Amraam C7 was ordered by Singapore, F-5s and A-4 s will only be carrying the C5 version because the F-15s and F-16s have first claim to the best missiles. That means the A-4s and F-5s will also become cannon fodder to our R-77s and AMRAAMs as well.
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Originally posted by belacan79 at 1-2-2009 09:10 PM
Ok. Good luck in finding the secret civilian and military ones among the hundreds already there.
Hundreds ?
Nah,
I doubt singapore has more than twenty stretches of roads that can be turned into runways.
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Originally posted by belacan79 at 1-2-2009 10:27 PM
Why is singapore`s chances zero should malaysia strike first ? It wont stop SG from invading you to defend herself. It wont kill SG`s equipmen as they are heavily protected. Sg`s jets will still fly from alternative routes. Furthermore, wars do not happen overnight and suddenly. In times of possible conflict, you can be rest assured that a lot of RSAF`s assets will be activated, in the air and ready to strike. Siaper siaper yang tinggal dekat Tengah dan Paya lebar tahu ler how fast they scramble.
No matter how well prepared Singapore is for an attack they still can't tell for sure when exactly a surprise Malaysian attack will occur. Thats why even at any given time a large portion of singaporean frontline fighters will still be on the ground. A pre emptive strike by Malaysia will obliterate all runways to prevent anymore Singaporean planes from taking off. Those already in the air may not be carrying suitable missiles for that particular situation. Some will also be already running low on fuel. And they will have to face the entire malaysian air force with these shortcomings. Given that Singaporean chances of beating Malaysia with 100% of their air force is already razor thin, what hope is there for a much smaller force defeating the Malaysian air force oslaught ? None whatsoever.
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Kalau tak boleh kenapa Malaysia ada amraam ?
Originally posted by belacan79 at 1-2-2009 09:40 PM
Alahai. Hornet boleh bawa Amraam ke? Dengar dengar waiting for upgred from US.
Ye ke ? Wah . Bagusla kalo gitu. |
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Post time 1-2-2009 08:44 PM
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