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Janda Dan Duda: Takdir Atau Trend?

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Post time 29-10-2007 10:07 PM | Show all posts
bangga apa jadi duda dan janda ni.. bukan senang nk dapat title ni wooooo, jenuh turun naik tangga mahkamah syariah buat muka seposen mintak cerai..

maklum lah dah takde jodoh
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Post time 29-10-2007 10:46 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 30-10-2007 12:30 AM | Show all posts
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Source : http://www.malaysia-today.net/Bl ... vorce-you-trend.htm

Stemming the 'I divorce you' trend

Zainah Anwar on Friday

Zainah Anwar
New Straits Times

"HE wished her 'Happy Birthday', then he pronounced 'I divorce you'! Can you imagine such cruelty, such heartlessness," said a friend whose 34-year-old daughter was unilaterally divorced last month by her husband of eight years.

She called me after reading the New Straits Times story (Sept 30) that revealed the disproportionately high divorce rate among Muslims (15,000) compared with Chinese and Indians (3,000).

A Muslim man's unilateral right to divorce his wife at will is one of the causes of the higher rate of divorce among Muslims. The ease and impunity with which men pronounce divorce led the religious authorities to put a stop to this practice in the 1984 model Islamic Family Law adopted by the states in Malaysia.

Malaysia was then one of the first Muslim countries to provide for divorce to take place only in court. This was in accordance with the Quranic teachings urging husbands and wives "to live together on equitable terms or to separate in kindness".

But in 1994, because of objections from certain quarters, the law was amended to allow the registration of divorces outside the courts, thus defeating the original intent and spirit of the 1984 law reform.

Now, one only has to pay a minimal fine for breaking the law by pronouncing talaq (repudiation) without the court's permission, and the divorce will be validated. Thus, this loophole in the law has led once again to the proliferation of such divorces.

So, the stories of irresponsible men pronouncing divorce at will and in all manner abound again. Many years ago, a friend's husband wished her "Happy New Year" as the clock struck 12 and pronounced "I divorce you" in the next breath.

Another friend did not even know she was divorced until she received her divorce certificate in the mail from the Syariah Court.

Then, there is the recent phenomenon of SMS divorce which the courts, in all their wisdom, have recognised as a valid pronouncement of divorce.

At the Sisters in Islam legal clinic, we get emails and letters from perplexed women over the issue of ta'liq sepah, where their husbands pronounce conditional divorce for whatever reason they fancy.

These unregulated conditions include: The wife stepping out of the house, going to work, going on a business trip, picking up the phone when it rings, visiting friends or parents, speaking to a cousin he so dislikes, voting for an infidel political party, and so on.

The women felt that these conditions were unfair and untenable, so they picked up the phone when it rang, spoke to whoever they wanted, visited friends and parents, and in one case, the husband drove her to work even though he said jatuh talaq if she went to work that day. "What is my status, now? Am I divorced or not? But he is still having sex with me! Am I still his wife?"

Women's groups have long raised the multitudes of problems and the devastating emotional pain a woman goes through when her marriage is terminated without her being consulted or given any power or opportunity to prevent it or negotiate the terms.

The calls for reform have included a return to the 1984 provision of divorce only in courts to increasing the fine and prison sentence as a deterrent against irresponsible husbands.

While some countries have made divorce more difficult in order to arrest rising divorce rates, others have put resources into marital research and education to deal with domestic instability and unhappiness before the marriage deteriorates or even before it starts. This is one area that the Malaysian government should seriously look into.

In the United States, government-funded research over 30 years has enabled experts to predict with almost 90 per cent accuracy which couples would end up in divorce.

The use of video cameras to record every facial expression, gesture and change of tone has enabled John Gottman, regarded as the guru in the field, to identify four key behavioural traits that are the strongest divorce predictors
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Post time 30-10-2007 12:33 AM | Show all posts

Reply #43 sarahmirza's post

err senangnye lelaki tu melafazkan cerai.. secara umum, kata org, lelaki ni susah nak lafazkan cerai.. betulkah? mungkinkah mamat2 yg expert kat FD ni boley explain?
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Post time 30-10-2007 12:48 AM | Show all posts

Reply #44 LostSoul's post

Yang susah nak lafaz bukan sebab "masih sayang, cinta atau ingatkan anak2" tapi lebih pada dendam. Niat nak gantung isteri tak bertali atau nak menyusahkan isteri supaya tak boleh mulakan hidup baru. For me, this kind of men, apa yang biasa kita kata 'bacul'.

Yang mudah nak lafaz rata2 sebab di desak oleh GF muda. Hehehe..my theory la.
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Post time 30-10-2007 12:51 AM | Show all posts

Reply #45 sarahmirza's post

heh heh.. GF mude sergah kata "cerai!!" diapun cerai ek? adehhh... klako...
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Post time 30-10-2007 01:02 AM | Show all posts

Reply #46 LostSoul's post

Hehehe, teringat ada seorang forumer tulis, lelaki semakin tua semakin jadi macam budak2, sebab tu tak hairan pakcik umur 60thn sibuk nak kahwin dengan perempuan sebaya anak. Dah dua2 macam budak

EH, ter'off' topic pula.
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Post time 30-10-2007 01:06 AM | Show all posts

Reply #47 sarahmirza's post

hahaha.. ada ka? adehhh... makin tua makin manje, i think so la..  kalau reverse situation, adakah pompuan tua jugak akan begitu? mmm aku rasa jarang2 skali yah..
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Post time 30-10-2007 01:21 AM | Show all posts

Reply #48 LostSoul's post

Makin manja tu kot maksud macam budak2. Perempuan tua biasa manja dengan anak cucu. But i believe bukan semua lelaki tua macam ni, yang kurang kasih sayang & memang gatal je macam ni. Kena pula ada yang offer diri untuk digatalkan. Hehehe

Nite Lostsoul. I nak out.
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Post time 30-10-2007 08:30 AM | Show all posts
patut pun aku rasa semakin hari aku ni semakin manja....
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Post time 30-10-2007 08:36 AM | Show all posts

Reply #12 mamicun's post

golongan pentafsir membahaskan....

tangan = kuasa...

arap maklom...
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Post time 30-10-2007 11:05 AM | Show all posts
kawin cerai

cerai kawen

kawen cerai

gado baik

baik gado+baby

Kalo dah kawen , mengadapt la pengai pasangan masing2.
Yang penting macam mana nk ujudkan persefahaman tu....
org2 dh kawen ni kene belajar ilmu ikhlasss .....
ilmu redha....
ilmu sabar.....
ilmu seni mempertahankan diri.....
ilmu2 chef.....


kalo semua2 ilmu tu dh adew, lepas tu ade problem gakz....

haku pon tak tau.....

pandangan org yg blom kawen....
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Post time 30-10-2007 11:08 AM | Show all posts
kawin cerai

cerai kawen

kawen cerai

gado baik

baik gado+baby

Kalo dah kawen , mengadapt la pengai pasangan masing2.
Yang penting macam mana nk ujudkan persefahaman tu....
org2 dh kawen ni kene belajar ilmu ikhlasss .....
ilmu redha....
ilmu sabar.....
ilmu seni mempertahankan diri.....
ilmu2 chef.....


kalo semua2 ilmu tu dh adew, lepas tu ade problem gakz....

haku pon tak tau.....

pandangan org yg blom kawen....
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Post time 30-10-2007 03:11 PM | Show all posts
nak komen tp xtahu layak ke x...
mcm su pnya situasi skrg, sblh mgkn xnak......
sedaya upaya cuba ubah apa yg sepatutnya diubah....
tp kalo kesabaran xde, susah nak jaya....
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Post time 30-10-2007 03:33 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 mamicun's post

Bahasa budaya bangsa........kalau ada kawen mesti ada cerai....(memperkasakan ungkapan berlawanan)ngeh ngeh ngeh..
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Post time 30-10-2007 05:38 PM | Show all posts
Dua2 kena main peranan...kalau sebelah pihak jerk mana leh jalan...by the way aku rasa ramai jerk ibu tunggal yang hidup happily tambah yang berjaya keluar dari neraka dunia..he he..aku tak prejudis pada janda or duda..kecuali yang pangai cam setan or sundal bolong...harus dijauhi...selebihnya aku ok jerk kawan dengan depa...
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Post time 30-10-2007 06:12 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by LostSoul at 30-10-2007 12:33 AM
err senangnye lelaki tu melafazkan cerai.. secara umum, kata org, lelaki ni susah nak lafazkan cerai.. betulkah? mungkinkah mamat2 yg expert kat FD ni boley explain?


for me (bukan xpert la tapi)..
to pronounce it..would take a lots lots lots of guts..
korang bayangkan la tiap2 kali gaduh kena provoke ngan org lagi satu suh lepaskan..

org pmpuan kan secara naturenya selalu ckp ikut hati..bkn akal..esp tgh marah..
lelaki pulak. ckp ngan akal..
sbb tu la kuasa talak pada lelaki..
kalo kat pompuan..
satu hari 100 kali dh laki tu kena talak

ermm..tp kalo api marah tu dh kontrol..
setan senang je nk cucuk....
sbb tu la byk lafaz pastu nyesal..
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Post time 30-10-2007 06:21 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sarahmirza at 30-10-2007 12:30 AM
Ada lagi.. Trend

Source : http://www.malaysia-today.net/Bl ... vorce-you-trend.htm

Stemming the 'I divorce you' trend

Zainah Anwar on Friday

Zainah Anwar
New Straits Times

"HE wi ...


contoh2 permikiran yg mbelakangkan undang2 islam yg suci dan adil..
jgn salahkan undang2 islam yg nmpak berat ke arah lelaki..
Allah Maha Adil..Dia yg Maha Mengetahui..
ape la pada akal kita nih?
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Post time 30-10-2007 06:21 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sarahmirza at 30-10-2007 12:30 AM
Ada lagi.. Trend

Source : http://www.malaysia-today.net/Bl ... vorce-you-trend.htm

Stemming the 'I divorce you' trend

Zainah Anwar on Friday

Zainah Anwar
New Straits Times

"HE wi ...


contoh2 permikiran yg mbelakangkan undang2 islam yg suci dan adil..
jgn salahkan undang2 islam yg nmpak berat ke arah lelaki..
Allah Maha Adil..Dia yg Maha Mengetahui..
ape la pada akal kita nih?
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Post time 30-10-2007 07:17 PM | Show all posts
mmm ntahle.. when it comes to divorce ni, aku pikir manyak mende.. esp mende yg kecik2.. huhuhu macam, boleh ke aku tido sorang2 sbb aku takut antu, sapa la aku nak sakat, nak peluk kalau dia takde, sapa nak jadik bapak polisi bila aku drive nanti... kalau aku kawin baru ke, boleh ke org baru tu tahan aku ngigau tgh malam? hahahaha.. mende camnile yg buat aku pikir panjanggg
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