ISIS are true muslims !

sam1528

wkk5159 replied at 28-7-2015 11:42 AM

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate editedcopy cat )

LOL , again no answer to any counter argument but scampering from the issue. The above in red hilite my points raised in my post #57.

Ha ha , you do what you do best ...... run away from the issue. Extremely simple to refute you

Do you have the courage to answer my questions :
(1) why you choose to believe in a liar in Walid Shoebat and a nobody in 'Brother Rachid' rather than the facts from the US intelligence agencies?
(2) your screwup in you negating and contradicting yourself in the description of the Buraq
(3) who gave the order to behead Bani Quraiza?
(4) do you know the difference between 'in battle' and murder with regards to beheading people?

Ha ha , I say again :  it doesn't take much for you to shoot yourself in your head

wkk5159

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate edited copy cat )

sam1528

wkk5159 replied at 30-7-2015 10:01 AM

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate edited copy cat )

LOL , the argument of a defeated person in 'wkk5159'. Round and round goes 'wkk5159' chasing his own backside

Refer to my post#61 which easily refuted you. Stumped for words? Yes?

This is just too easy

ibnur

So what do you get by saying ISIS are true muslim?  Debating until forever.

wkk5159

Typical pathetic soul of a quashed and humiliated forger...........

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate editedcopy cat )

sam1528

wkk5159 replied at 31-7-2015 10:51 AM
Typical pathetic soul of a quashed and humiliated forger...........

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate editedcopy cat )

LOL , you are like a crazed razorback gorging at everything that moves but too afraid to answer any counter questions.

Pssst .... refer to my post#61

Poor you ..... this is what happens when a person like you argue with BS

This is too easy

Ha ha , I say again :  it doesn't take much for you to shoot yourself in your head

wkk5159

Typical pathetic soul of a squashed and humiliated forger aka sam1528...........

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate edited forgery )

sam1528

wkk5159 replied at 1-8-2015 01:28 PM
Typical pathetic soul of a squashed and humiliated forger aka sam1528...........

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate edited forgery )

LOL , you are not addressing the issue but going round and round in circles chasing your backside. Typical of a person who has lost the plot.

Go back to my post #61 and address the issue. Ta da ..... 'wkk5159' the kinght templar for Christianity ... ha ha

Ha ha , I say again :  it doesn't take much for you to shoot yourself in your head

wkk5159

Typical pathetic soul of a squashed and humiliated forger aka sam1528...........

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate edited forgery )

sam1528

wkk5159 replied at 3-8-2015 10:30 AM
Typical pathetic soul of a squashed and humiliated forger aka sam1528...........

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate edited forgery )

LOL , again and again you are going round in circles chasing your own backside.

Can you respond to my post#61 or issit you are just too scared?

Ha ha , I say again :  it doesn't take much for you to shoot yourself in your head

wkk5159

No junior you are the one who has no answer but instead regurgitating the rancid query ala Ahmad Maslan.....

Typical pathetic soul of a squashed and humiliated forger aka sam1528...........

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate edited forgery )

wkk5159

Perhaps most outstanding is an article by Abdel Rahman al-Rashed, a Saudi journalist in London: "It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists," he writes, "but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims. …..

http://www.danielpipes.org/2226/identifying-moderate-muslims

sam1528

wkk5159 replied at 4-8-2015 10:56 AM
Perhaps most outstanding is an article by Abdel Rahman al-Rashed, a Saudi journalist in London: "It is a certain fact that not all Muslims are terrorists," he writes, "but it is equally certain, and exceptionally painful, that almost all terrorists are Muslims. …..

http://www.danielpipes.org/2226/identifying-moderate-muslims

LOL , this is what we call quote mining.

The very same person also stated :

An innocent and benevolent religion... has been turned into a global message of hate and a universal war cry

Back to the issue on hand : You blame Islam. The question still remain - where in the Quran that states for the murder of others?

Until now .... yilek from you.

Ha ha , I say again :  it doesn't take much for you to shoot yourself in your head

sam1528

wkk5159 replied at 4-8-2015 09:43 AM
No junior you are the one who has no answer but instead regurgitating the rancid query ala Ahmad Maslan.....

Typical pathetic soul of a squashed and humiliated forger aka sam1528...........

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate edited forgery )

Ha ha , how come you are always in self denial? LOL , actually you are the one 'maslaning' others as you claim something but then try your best to run away from you what you've claimed. Maybe I should start to call you 'wkk5159-maslan' .....

Issit because you are unable to answer any questions? Go back to my post#61 and try to address the issues. I know it is extremely difficult for you as you have nothing more in your locker. Oops , you still have something .... going round and round in circles chasing your own backside.

Ha ha , I say again :  it doesn't take much for you to shoot yourself in your head

Err can you also stop this 'maslaning' ..... ha ha

wkk5159

Since this Maslanic ustazy aka sam1528 is regurgitating the rancid query and fake pseudodyslexic, then this tested and tried truth is the perfect antidote...

Typical pathetic soul of a squashed and humiliated forger aka sam1528...........

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate edited forgery )

wkk5159

The question still remain - where in the Quran that states for the murder of others? .....asked pseudodyslexic cankerish ustazy sam1528 post 73#

"And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing....Quran 2:191


"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" Quran 5:33


And zillions more.....

Any wonder why this cankerish ustazy like to use the phrase shooting one's head ???

sam1528

wkk5159 replied at 5-8-2015 09:18 AM
Since this Maslanic ustazy aka sam1528 is regurgitating the rancid query and fake pseudodyslexic, then this tested and tried truth is the perfect antidote...

Typical pathetic soul of a squashed and humiliated forger aka sam1528...........

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate edited forgery )

Ha ha , very predictable response from 'wkk5159-maslan'. You are 'maslaning' around now.

Issit because you don't have the kahounas to answer the issues put forward. All you can do is to go around in circles chasing your own backside.

Refer to my post#61 , so easy for me to refute you but you are so scared to provide any form of counter.

Ha ha , I say again :  it doesn't take much for you to shoot yourself in your head

sam1528

wkk5159 replied at 5-8-2015 09:34 AM
The question still remain - where in the Quran that states for the murder of others? .....asked pseudodyslexic cankerish ustazy sam1528 post 73#

"And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing....Quran 2:191


"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" Quran 5:33


And zillions more.....

Any wonder why this cankerish ustazy like to use the phrase shooting one's head ???

Wow! Quran 2:191 is your answer? Lets see what the 2 verses before and after have got to say : (Sahih International)

2:189 They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the new moons. Say, "They are measurements of time for the people and for Hajj." And it is not righteousness to enter houses from the back, but righteousness is [in] one who fears Allah. And enter houses from their doors. And fear Allah that you may succeed.
2:190 Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.
2:191 And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192 And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.

Ha ha , what you have done is what we call quoting out of context. Only confirm liars quote out of context.

Gee Whiz , Quran5:33? Hmmmm ... the verse explains itself :Quoting what you stated :

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" Quran 5:33

I've underlined it in red. Dunno about you , others with better comprehension would understand that its the penalty for people starting a war and making mischief on the land. LOL , you seem to have comprehension problems.

Ha ha , first you went quote mining. Then you quote things out of context. Lastly you don't even understand a simple sentence (ie. having comprehension problems).

Tsk tsk , you really look bad. Still trying to 'maslan' around issit? BTW in all translations , the word is 'to be killed' not 'murdered'. Appears that you are using your own imaginary translation. Logic of it , the particular person(s) found guilty of waging a war , one of the prescribed penalty is for them to be killed. It cannot be murder anymore. Logic seems to escape you apart from you trying to lie.

It is so easy to embarrass you because you don't even know what you are talking about. Lack of critical thinking in your part , yet you claim to be a true professional and an expert in your own field.

The question still remain :where in the Quran that calls for the murder of others?

Ha ha , I say again :  it doesn't take much for you to shoot yourself in your head

What issit? Zillions more? You wouldn't want to be embarrassed to no end ...... would you. I am really good at embarrassing you .....

wkk5159

Maslanic ustazy aka sam1528 is still regurgitating the rancid query and fake pseudodyslexic, then this tested and tried truth is the perfect antidote...

"The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”  
By Graeme Wood; he is an editor at the magazine as well as a lecturer in political science at Yale University.  (original)


"The reality is that the Ku Klux Clan is Christian. Very Christian.Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Central North America. But the religion preachedby its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learnedinterpretations of Christianity.” By sissy cum run out of idea self destructive ustazy sam1528 (poor desperate edited forgery )

wkk5159

Killing is killing and when cornered with truth, this Maslanic ustazy comes out with typical Maslanic answer;

2:189 They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the new moons. Say, "They are measurements of time for the people and for Hajj." And it is not righteousness to enter houses from the back, but righteousness is [in] one who fears Allah. And enter houses from their doors. And fear Allah that you may succeed.
2:190 Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.
2:191 And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192 And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
2:193 Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.


"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" Quran 5:33


But this Maslanic ustazy sam1528 initial question was;
"Back to the issue on hand : You blame Islam. The question still remain - where in the Quran that states for the murder of others?" Post 73#

Now suddenly killing in defence of his beloved vile prophet becomes....Not an act of killing according to this pious Maslanic muslim aka sam1528....

Any wonder why i said ISIS are true muslims ???