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[Dunia] Pesawat MH17 (Amsterdam - KL) Terhempas di Ukraine! 295 Maut! V2

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Post time 18-7-2014 03:45 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
alinone78 posted on 18-7-2014 03:42 PM
Tersilap kot
Nak tembak Putin

Jarak jauh tak nampak kot belang ke ape ke. Nampak dot gitu je barangkali dkt radar pun. Impossible salah tembak.
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Post time 18-7-2014 03:45 PM | Show all posts
annehuda posted on 18-7-2014 03:18 PM
tu kene tanya kak @MelahJanda la ... bkn serba salah pun tp rusia tu jenis ketegaq nak mampuih. ka ...

kalo aku jd rusia aku pun berani buat kepala...

aku ada tentera n teknologi power. setakat negara kecik yg kerek aku hntr anak kucing je nak ratah.

bapak rimau simpan dulu....

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tinker_bell posted on 18-7-2014 12:34 PM
ni pesawat ketiga ye jatuh minggu ni je kt ukraine!!org yg waras mmg akn elak la laluan ni..cuba k ...

plus kite seperti terjerat dengan blame game sudah mula
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maxim posted on 18-7-2014 03:43 PM
MH17: Satu pembunuhan beramai-ramai, kata Anwar
  • Pesawat penumpang Malaysia terhempas di Ukrai ...

  • dia dh bunyi dah
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    razhar posted on 18-7-2014 03:39 PM
    Ukraine yang tembak..kerana mengjangka ianya plane putin..tapi biasa le plane putin tu bkn sebaran ...

    ukraine pulak yg tembak.

    ari tu dlm berita kata pihak pro rusia mengaku dia yg tembak.

    mana satu yg btl ni?

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    FanTasyCreaTioN posted on 18-7-2014 03:35 PM
    tak ..

    porum ni ader mengong skit 2-3 arini..

    tgh mencuba ni uols..
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    ellZack posted on 18-7-2014 03:21 PM
    sorry, iols mcm noob sikit kes gaduh gaduh Russia-Ukraine ni..
    so, US gigih sangat nak tengok Rus ...

    ada satu wilayah di Ukraine, namanya Crimea
    wilayah ni dekat dgn sempadan russia....and di situ ramai ummah crimea yg berasal dari leluhur russia dan mereka adalaha msyrkt majoriti
    ummah2 di situ yg nak join russia ni adalah golongan elit
    ukraine ekceli nak join eastern europe and di wilayah crimea itu ada naval base US/British Army
    tp russia nak jugakkkkkkk (dasar tamak) sbb crimea juga kaya dgn sumber minyak
    bleh refer tred kat sini

    Ukraine umum Russia ceroboh wilayahnya
    http://mforum.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=789048



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    otai_g posted on 18-7-2014 03:43 PM
    yes totally agree.

    mahathir dpn2 yahudi selamba badak je kutuk yahudi tu dlm forum.

    sedikit sebyk aku stuju la dgn pendapat ko ni ... kite ni dua tiga menjak ni mmg jadi mangsa buli je ...ikut telunjuk US
    .. Deep down aku rasa ni hi level conspirasy same mcm MH370 ..
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    tapibukanaku posted on 18-7-2014 03:46 PM
    tgh mencuba ni uols..

    boleh tak bgtau link dr mana kaka amik  gambar tuh...mmg tak nampak apa apa laa apa hang tepek tuh..
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    kat rtm panel cakap2 pasal mh17...jemput kapten n ustaz.. diorang cakap pasal kifarah & time untuk muhasabah diri dari kejadian ini
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    alinone78 posted on 18-7-2014 03:42 PM
    Tersilap kot
    Nak tembak Putin

    big possibility ...haha
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    Hebak2 komen.....mengalahkan cia gamaknye...kakkaka
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    niceghost2005 posted on 18-7-2014 03:32 PM
    Ada Airlines yg x ikut..............
    Dah 2 bulan depa tukaq route.

    ..route takde masalah, nak tukar ke tak ke tu ikut suka airlines..
    semua FLIGHT PLAN dah setup dlm FMC bawah ni



    semua FLIGHT PLAN dah ada code/permission masing2 yang kita panggil Transponder. ATC mana negara yg kita lalu dah tau lebih awal.



    ikut laluan selamat pun kat ruang udara mesia, pesawat mh370 hilang jugak

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    Post time 18-7-2014 03:48 PM | Show all posts
    Kenyataan PM Australia lantang mengkritik Russia.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/10975363/Malaysia-Airlines-crash-Tony-Abbott-deeply-unimpressed-by-Russian-response.html

    Malaysia Airlines crash: Tony Abbott 'deeply unimpressed' by Russian responseAustralian prime minister Tony Abbott points the finger for MH17 attack at Russia as 28 Australians confirmed dead

    [size=1.4em]Tony Abbott, Australia’s prime minister, has labelled the attack on MH17 a crime and signalled he blamed Russian aggression, as Australia experienced one of its worst aviation disasters with at least 28 dead.

    [size=1.4em]Declaring he was “filled with revulsion,” Mr Abbott summoned the Russian ambassador in Canberra to ensure that Moscow participates with an official investigation.

    [size=1.4em]Barely containing his fury at a press conference, Mr Abbott indicated he would not allow Vladimir Putin to visit Australia to attend a G20 summit in November if Russia does not cooperate with the investigation. He said the plane was probably shot down by a Russian-made weapon and effectively blamed Russia for “facilitating the killing of Australian citizens”.

    [size=1.4em]“Russia’s whole standing in the world is at risk here,” he said.

    [size=1.4em]“Anyone who gave such a weapon… any country which was inspiring and orchestrating the kind of activity we are now seeing in eastern Ukraine has a heavy responsibility, should feel a sense of shame.”

    [size=1.4em]Mr Abbott expressed frustration at Russia’s ambassador in Canberra who was summoned to a meeting with Australia’s foreign minister and immediately blamed Ukraine for the attack.
    [size=1.4em]“This is a test for Russia … there can be no excuses, no buck passing, no blame shifting,” he said.
    [size=1.4em]“Russia’s whole standing in the world is at risk here."
    [size=1.4em]Mr Abbott said Russian-backed rebels appeared to be responsible but he indicated that Russia or Russian arms were involved and Moscow was not immune from blame.
    [size=1.4em]He said Australia will use its seat on the United Nations Security Council to push for an investigation that would have full access to the site, the black box, the debris and all individuals who might have been involved.
    [size=1.4em]"The bullying of small countries by big ones, the trampling of justice and decency in the pursuit of national aggrandisement, and reckless indifference to human life should have no place in our world," he said.
    [size=1.4em]“This is a grim day for our country and it’s a grim day for our world… We owe it to the families of the dead to find out exactly what has happened and exactly who is responsible.”
    [size=1.4em]The flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was due to connect with onward flights to Melbourne and Perth.
    [size=1.4em]The government said at least 28 Australians were aboard – the nation’s third-worst civilian aviation toll after the deaths of 29 people in crashes in 1960 and 1950.
    [size=1.4em]Australia’s parliament observed a minute of silence and flags were flown at half-mast.
    [size=1.4em]The Australian victims reportedly included 27-year-old Melbourne University student Elaine Teoh, Sydney-based nun Sister Philomene Tiernan, and Albert and Marie Rizk, a couple who had been holidaying in Europe for a month.
    [size=1.4em]An official list of names is yet to be released.


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    toxicated posted on 18-7-2014 03:45 PM
    Jarak jauh tak nampak kot belang ke ape ke. Nampak dot gitu je barangkali dkt radar pun. Impossibl ...

    Kot depa pakai teropong tok moh
    Mana tau

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    yaminz posted on 18-7-2014 03:33 PM
    Benda masih dlm penyiasatan, xperlu nak buat tuduhan melulu...
    Tgu analisis dr black box & rasa ny ...

    Agreed.. Semua forummers dh jd flight & missile expertise
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    tinker_bell posted on 18-7-2014 03:22 PM
    ye..tp pjenayah mana yg ikut peraturan??kisah apa dia 1000 feet beza pon??

    penjenayah mmg x ikut peraturan.

    tp kerajaan yg berdaulat ada peraturan tau x.

    even nak berperang pun ada peraturan. ingt blh perang ikut suka hati....

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    niceghost2005 posted on 18-7-2014 03:14 PM
    International Air Transport tu..................ADVISE jer
    Kalau hangpa nak ikut..............iku ...

    abang yang d hormati ..
    perbincangan begini bagus sebenar nya ..
    dari tak tau ..
    kurang2 ada juga ilmu untuk d kemudian hari
    yang elok kita ambik
    yng tak elok kita jadi kan pengajaran

    apa yang adik tulis ..
    selalu nya adik ambik dari link yang boleh d percayai
    dan mengambil kira pendapat sekeliling

    Kalau hangpa ghasa bahaya, konar laaa route laen.

    So, sapa yg buat keputusan akhir di sini???
    keputusan sebenar nya dari yang adik baca .. datang nya dari banyak pihak
    sebab kita melalui ruang udara orang lain

    pelepasan kalu berbunyi : fly at your own risk
    baru kita bulat2 salahkan MAS

    ni dah sah2 memang clear

    Kalau dah terbang..............pilot yg buat keputusan akhir.
    Kalau kat daghat...........................MAS still ambik risiko.
    adakah abng bermaksud kan MAS sengaja mempertaruhkan nyawa penumpang?


    refer to :
    @ekod79

    http://mforum4.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=818042&page=17#pid57371943

    sebagai warga ATC yg menerima news ni sgt sedih dan simpati...kami bertugas untuk memastikan semua kapal terbang selamat di udara sgt2 terkejut dan tak terkata akan kejadian ini....MAS 16/ MAS 17 akan menjadi kenangan...tiada lagi panggilan good morning untuk arrival clearance MAS17, identified, cleared Lumpur R14L selalunya pagi sebelum Subuh ketika ia memasuki ruang udara Malaysia

    kalau tiada NOTAM dari ukraine atc atau eurocontrol laluan x selamat, laluan dianggap selamat

    kecuali sekira nya dalam keadaan kecemasan .. baru lah pilot yang membuat keputusan ..
    jalan mana nak d ikuti


    Yg melepaskan 'torpedo' ke udara tu..............memang dah sah sah salah. (AAM - Anti Aircraft Missile)

    yang ni adik setuju 1000%



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    Post time 18-7-2014 03:50 PM | Show all posts
    gadget posted on 18-7-2014 03:32 PM
    aku nak spekulate bodoh sikit...

    US dan SIA  kamcing.....US nak kambinghitamkan Malaysia...US ar ...

    Mana bukti? udah la tu tak payah nk reke2 tiori itu ini. Macam labun pak belalang je
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