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Natasha Hudson Plagiat Karya Orang??

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Post time 22-1-2008 09:13 AM | Show all posts
nak kene buat report polis? aisehmen wa x dibenarkan jejak kaki ke balai ler..... camne ni...... adooooiii
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Post time 22-1-2008 09:18 AM | Show all posts

Reply #1041 yipun78's post

hah???

1st time dgr org x leh jejak kaki ke balai..
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Post time 22-1-2008 09:20 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by shidahameera at 22-1-2008 09:08 AM



sebab tak ada laporan polis dibuat.tiada bantahan


sejak bila bila plaigarism ni kena buat kes polis?
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Post time 22-1-2008 09:31 AM | Show all posts
ala...tulis dalam board gosip pun kena report bagai ka?...mustahilla...
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Post time 22-1-2008 09:35 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Fussy***** at 22-1-2008 09:20 AM


sejak bila bila plaigarism ni kena buat kes polis?




biasalah skrg ni mana boleh tuduh-tuduh walaupun ada kebenaran. kena pakai lawyer. karya itu takder pulak akta hakcipta. melainkan pemilik manuskrip asal, penerbit asal buat laporan menahan karya itu diterbitkan
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Post time 22-1-2008 09:34 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Fussy***** at 22-1-2008 09:20 AM


sejak bila bila plaigarism ni kena buat kes polis?


ye le
kalo nak buat kes
kene le report polis
kot tak camana nak jadi kes
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Post time 22-1-2008 09:36 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by yipun78 at 22-1-2008 09:13 AM
nak kene buat report polis? aisehmen wa x dibenarkan jejak kaki ke balai ler..... camne ni...... adooooiii




la..keturunan puteri sulu ker tak boleh jejak balai polis

p/s : puteri sulu tu bini mat saleh pahlawan sabah yg tak boleh jejak tanah.
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Post time 22-1-2008 09:38 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by PrinCessMaya at 22-1-2008 09:31 AM
ala...tulis dalam board gosip pun kena report bagai ka?...mustahilla...



board gossip dan ruangan gossip takder masalah, tapi paper kebangsaan takkan jadikan berita utama.ia hanya akan jadi berita utama kalau tajuk dia cam ni  contohnya" Datin Natasha Hudson disaman penerbit Oxford Fajar"
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Post time 22-1-2008 09:50 AM | Show all posts
Kena report kat Robert McGough la. Biar McGough yang saman.
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Post time 22-1-2008 09:52 AM | Show all posts
tak puas hatilah selagi manusia ni tak kena hukum dgn perbuatan plagiat dia tu...
geram dgn dia nih tau...
tak der org bg tau penulis asal ker..
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Post time 22-1-2008 09:53 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Santeira at 22-1-2008 09:50 AM
Kena report kat Robert McGough la. Biar McGough yang saman.

sangat sangat setuju
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Post time 22-1-2008 10:06 AM | Show all posts

Reply #1047 shidahameera's post

hehehe perjanjian ngan bapak ler kak Shidah, camne jahat pon peel jangan sampai kene masuk balai, n no sex b4 akad
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Post time 22-1-2008 10:07 AM | Show all posts

Reply #1052 yipun78's post

muahhahhaa..perjanjian blood rupanya..kalau langgar perjanjian agak2 muntah darah tak?
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Post time 22-1-2008 10:18 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by yipun78 at 22-1-2008 10:06 AM
hehehe perjanjian ngan bapak ler kak Shidah, camne jahat pon peel jangan sampai kene masuk balai, n no sex b4 akad



uhukkk...tersedak, no sex..no sex..of course, dosa you..
kalau masuk clubbing pun tak bleh gak ker?
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Post time 22-1-2008 10:19 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by PrinCessMaya at 22-1-2008 10:07 AM
muahhahhaa..perjanjian blood rupanya..kalau langgar perjanjian agak2 muntah darah tak?



absolutely all alowance kena tarik
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Post time 22-1-2008 10:22 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by one_piece at 22-1-2008 09:52 AM
tak puas hatilah selagi manusia ni tak kena hukum dgn perbuatan plagiat dia tu...
geram dgn dia nih tau...
tak der org bg tau penulis asal ker..


I believe Sharon Bakar and Jannah sendiri dah inform Mr. McGough pasal kes ni. So tunggu je lah. Apa-apa pun, yang boleh saman dia cuma owner poems dan publisher(s) buku dimana the original poems were publlished.

Satu benda yang harus diingat, under copyright laws, hak pemilik karya adalah universal. Maknanya kalau pemilik karya orang UK, hidup kat UK dan karya diterbitkan di UK tapi ciplak/plagiarism berlaku di luar UK (dalam kes ni Malaysia), karya tu still dilindungi oleh copyright laws yang universal ni.

Lagi satu, pemilik boleh sue on two grounds, satu bawah copyright law di mana karya dihasilkan (dalam kes ni bawah English Copyright, Design & Patent Act 1988) dan juga dia boleh sue bawah  copyright laws di mana karya plaigarism dihasilkan (kes ni bawah Malaysian Copyright Act 1987). Di samping itu, kalau nak ambik tindakan ke atas publisher buku NH ni pun boleh di bawah Malaysian Printing Presses & Publication Act 1984. Bawah akta ni, ada kuasa untuk haramkan pernerbitan dan pengedaran publicaton yang melanggar mana-mana akta di Malaysia atau di bawah international law (Section 7).

Tapi apa-apa pun, orang yang ada hak nak menyaman NH ni ada dua je: (1) owners poems yang 3 tu; (2) publisher(s) buku/journal/magazine di mana poems ori tu diterbitkan. kita ni boleh tengok dari jauh je lah, walaupun sah2 salah.

NH mungkin rasa dia selamat tapi kalau aku jadi dia aku tak senang duduk, sebab since Mr McGough dah diberitahu tentang plagiarism ni, and NH dah dpt keuntungan dari ciplakan dia (automatically breach copyright law and is a ground for action), bila-bila masa je saman dari UK akan saman dan based on experience, kalau kena saman under copyright laws UK, memang nangis tak habis la. copyright laws dia advanced and boleh dikatakan complete. meaning, if they cant get you under one section, more likely than not, they WILL get you under the other section of the Act. lagi satu, jangan ingat pasal owner of the poem dah mati, NH tak boleh kena saman. Waris (estate) pemilik (dan juga publisher) poem ni boleh sangat nak saman NH. Nak2 poet yang mati tu orang US and the work was published in US...siap je lah.

Tu je lah penerangan sikit  sebyk nak bagi. So all hope is not lost and   i dont think she is getting away with it. Kita yang takde hak dari segi undang2, boleh sebarkan kisah  cite ciplak dia ni. I believe art/literature community dah sisihkan dia. Kalau paper tak de teloq nak expose, kita expose thru net. Ramai lagi org baca net dari paper nowadays.

Just wait and see. That summon may come anytime now. Kena kumpul bukti dulu before hantar summon tu.

[ Last edited by  FussyPussy at 22-1-2008 10:32 AM ]
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Post time 22-1-2008 10:25 AM | Show all posts
plagiarism is a SERIOUS offence in UK.aku yg student lg nih nak photostat2 buku pun x boleh tau,apatah lg amik karya org.this is a SERIOUS crime.kene report cpt wey.anybody has the guts utk contact and email all the evidences to the respective original writers?

i feel really annoyed lah.
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Post time 22-1-2008 10:43 AM | Show all posts
Baru je bercakap dengan seorang penulis terkenal malaysia. dia pun ada baca berita pasal NH ni kat news paper. tapi dia tanya siapa si NH ni. dia tak kenal pun. then kita pun story le kat dia. so dia kata NH memang bodoh le pi plagiat karya orang. so sesiapa yang baik hati, pi le email kat penulis asal, maklumkan hal ini.

NED publication tu, me ada baca tak ingat kat mana & kalau tak silap, dimiliki oleh NH sendiri. so kalau dia punya, no wonder le tak de proof reader, dan dia boleh buat sesuka hatinya.
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Post time 22-1-2008 10:50 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Fussy***** at 22-1-2008 10:22 AM


I believe Sharon Bakar and Jannah sendiri dah inform Mr. McGough pasal kes ni. So tunggu je lah. Apa-apa pun, yang boleh saman dia cuma owner poems dan publisher(s) buku dimana the original p ...


thanks Fussy***** atas penerangan ..siap keluar akta semua tu..memang best.. kalau datin natasha tu baca mesti dh ketaq lutut nih...
nk best lagik hantar sekali dgn buku2 plagiat dia tu kat penulis2 tuh...
huiiihhh... mesti tak jejak tanah dia tuh....
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Post time 22-1-2008 11:07 AM | Show all posts
siakap, senohong
gelama, thorn fish.
you tell lies,
eventually you steal....
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