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[Tempatan] Seorang lelaki melayu berugama islam Tukar agama lepas ada masalah kewangan.

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Post time 25-8-2017 04:09 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Organisasi Islam kat msia ni bukan takde duit tapi yang belah atas apa kjadahnya simpan duit berjuta2 masyarakat Islam merempat sana sini.. Pergi sonang dapat duit.. patut yg jaga duit zakat apa tu tgk muka kat cermin malu.. banganglah
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Post time 25-8-2017 04:17 PM | Show all posts
Pokok pangkalnya adalah keadaan ekonomi. Takde duit. Sebab apa, malas. Tak juga. Ada yg rajin.
Sebab tu aku begitu anti dgn gomen sekarang walaupun dulu aku sipi2 sokong dia org. Kira sebelah kaki belah dia org.

Sana sini, kata ekonomi berkembang, stabil bla... bla... lepas tu salahkan eknomi dunia lembab. Kalau yg pernah bekerja di zaman pemimpin terdahulu dgn pemimpin sekarang tau la bezanya macam mana. Org kerja swasta ni, kalau nak cepat dpt gaji besar, kena rajin melompat dari satu kerja/ sykt ke kerja/sykt yg lain. Cuma ianya tak dapat dilakukan sekarang kerana yg tumbuh mcm cendawan dulu2 pun dah gulung tikar.

Nak jadi hero, kenalkan gaji minimum. Lbh parah, makin ramai yg lingkup sebab tak mampu nak bayar gaji dan terpaksa kecilkan operasi.
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Post time 25-8-2017 04:25 PM | Show all posts
wanitajelita replied at 24-8-2017 06:05 PM
Pernah tak korang2 yg bekerja di Kementerian belia, KPW, MOF, MOE, Institusi agama dll ni, sakit kep ...

simpati dgn nasib sis, apa yg berlaku tu sbb org2 yang duduk di kerusi yang sepatutnya bantu org yg betul2 memerlukan ni tak nak susahkan diri mrk buat keje lebih...apa salahnya ringankn tulang buat siasatan bila ada yg dtg minta bantuan dari tolak bulat.

ni la masaalah besar dlm masyarakat melayu, lebih nak senangkan org lelaki puaskan nafsu sampai sanggup bg insentif pada lelaki yg berpoiligami, lelaki tak perlukn izin isteri jika nak kawin lebih....sepatutnya undang2 diketatkan spy tak menganiaya wanita...bila berceramah ..kulukilir ckp islam mengangkat wanita ditahap tertinggi, tapi nak tinggi mcm mana kalau nasib wanita teraniaya langsung tak diperdulikan.

balik2 wanita yg disalahkan, diugut dgn kata2 "tak cium bau syurga" etc...

mohon ustaz2 yg bodoh2 asik cerita hal2 seks di sekat dari bagi ceramah

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Post time 25-8-2017 05:17 PM | Show all posts
prettyuglybabe replied at 24-8-2017 05:15 PM
sendiri hidup terubang ambing napa nak salahkan agama..
so convert kristian dia jadi jutawan melian ...

kannn...
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Post time 25-8-2017 07:57 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by chazey at 25-8-2017 08:06 PM
rospinki replied at 25-8-2017 10:07 AM
orang kristian pun ada target mereka juga..macam ahli jkkkk gereja..diorg kena cari penganut baru. ...


Uol kena tau yach rukun Kristian paling utama ialah wajib menyebarkan injil kapeda umat manusia terutama non Kristian yach! Deyol bukan saja2 cari penganut baru, ini seiring dengan surah2 dalam Bible siap ada dinyatakan jika saorang Kristian gagal sharing pasal Yesus kapeda orang yang tidak mengenal Yesus sebagai Tuhan maka jika orang itu masuk neraka nanti kerana heshe tak beriman pada Yesus maka si Kristian itu bertanggungjawab atas jiwanya yach!

Pasal pendekatan holistik yang uol nyatakan itu, ai dah lama lehat umat Islam apply kat umat Kristian or non Islam di Sabah. Sini pon banyak kes umat Kristian jadi Muslim karna diberi duit, biasiswa, bantuan makanan saperti beras segala mala juga hada kes paling setupid di donia umat Kristian yang dok kat kampong pedalaman pegi mesjid pegi mengucap dua kalimah tanpa tahu hapa maksudnya, tup2 takajut bila tau meka dah jadik Muslim yach! Hapa yang mendorong meka pegi mesjid? Duit.

Kat Semenanjung, perkara seumpama gini biasa berlaku pada Orang Asli di sana. Bumis Sabah Sarawak dan Orang Asli adelah target group utama untuk diIslamkan di Malaysia ini. Dan memang golongan meskin uneducated la yang jadik sasaran or pelajar sekolah underage kat kampong pedalaman.
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Post time 25-8-2017 08:01 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
cmf_shalom replied at 25-8-2017 09:50 AM
Kertu nya sis...

Eh hello, biar kertu di umo tak kertu di muka bak prinsip @Miss_Nigga yach!
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Post time 25-8-2017 08:04 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
cmf_shalom replied at 25-8-2017 10:02 AM
Ntah mana peginya konsep ak ngan agama aku kamu ngan agama kamu...

If org buat ritual dlm bagun ...

Coba lepak luar sejid di hari Jumaat. Kalau nasib ko bagus boleh la dengar umat Yahudi Nasrani dicerca didoakan ditimpa bala. Dolu ai pernah dengar kotbah gini masa ai sedang tunggu kawan. Kebetulan sekolah sheol hampir dengan masjid daerah aiol. Ex kelig ai yang bagi menyampaikan kotbah tu (kenal sangat suaranya) karna di tempat ai heol seorang ustad yang dihormati walau keja kat sekolah cincai nak mampos.
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Post time 25-8-2017 08:39 PM | Show all posts
Edited by cmf_shalom at 25-8-2017 08:58 PM
chazey replied at 25-8-2017 08:04 PM
Coba lepak luar sejid di hari Jumaat. Kalau nasib ko bagus boleh la dengar umat Yahudi Nasrani dic ...


ak pernah dengar...

tp gelak macam tu jer.....ya la...bila dngr tang yahudi/nasrani x henti2 nak sesat umat Islam..ak dok terpikir:

- umat xtian xde keja lain ke? ingat weols ni x seteres psl GST? bayar bil api umah lektrik..makan minum?gaduh ngan awek? gaduh nagn laki?bini? ingat weols garu telur sambil pikir target nk sesatkan org Islam?

- Pope kan vatican tu..ingat ilek goyang kaki sambil minum kopi...dok pikir apa lg tipu daya nk dikenakan kt umat Islam? masalah umat catholic..skandal priests....masalah sedia ada pun dh cukup mmeningkan kepala dia...masih ada hati nak pasang plan kenakan umat lain? Ingat xde plot ke nk suruh Pope Francis sekarang letak jawatan? Sebab x puas hati psl tranformasi yg cuba dibuat...siap ada syor supaya Francis declare secara tbuka..sama ada dia masih faithful ke atas iman Gereja Katolik...sebab ada isu psl satu dokumen yg dikeluarkan semasa pentadbiran Francis, menyebabkan terdapat sekumpulan Kardinal tidak puas hati.

aku rasa mbe ramai tidak percaya ngan apa yg aku tulis kt atas..sebab stigma selama ni..mcm pope ni digambarkan terlalu berkuasa...terlalu suci..kata-katanya adalah kata TUHAN...kata-katanya tidak boleh disangkal..satu tahap bawah dr tuhan....etc etc..
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Post time 25-8-2017 09:25 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by chazey at 25-8-2017 09:27 PM
cmf_shalom replied at 25-8-2017 08:39 PM
ak pernah dengar...

tp gelak macam tu jer.....ya la...bila dngr tang yahudi/nasrani x he ...


Umat Kristen tau la pergolakan politik dalaman organisasi gereja tu gimana yach?

Btw mohon umat Islam cirimin diri seblom mengata gimana umat Kristen agungkan Pope hengat2 la juga gimana umat Islam view Mopti yah. Tak silap ai, di Malaysia ini ayatul Mopti wajib dipatuhi. Mopti berkuasa jah turunkan hukom2 mengarut walau ia berisiko untok pecah belahkan rakyat saperti gak boleh wish Merry Kurismas pada kepir Kristian dan umat mainstream akan angguk2 kapla ikot ja tanpa soal.
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Post time 25-8-2017 10:01 PM | Show all posts
Edited by cmf_shalom at 25-8-2017 10:26 PM
chazey replied at 25-8-2017 09:25 PM
Umat Kristen tau la pergolakan politik dalaman organisasi gereja tu gimana yach?

Btw mo ...

mmg la ummah catholic tau sis...

Ak tau pun sebab baca news dr paper catholic...isu tu didebat dan dibincang secara tbuka dikalangan bishop/piest n ahli teologi catholic..sama ada yg setuju atau tidak dengan Pope Francis..

Ingat aku ni bff pope?...tiap mlm pope wasap ngan aku n ngadu psl bishop yg degil...yachh ssangat sis..

ni ak tepek contoh..

In a new interview, Cardinal Raymond Burke has said it is “now necessary” that a declaration be issued on key areas of Church doctrine that are “not clear” in Pope Francis’ teachings.

The Holy Father will then be “obliged to respond” in order to bring clarification to those teachings, he said.


The cardinal toldThe Wanderer newspaper Aug. 14 that such a formal act of correction has not been invoked “for several centuries” and until now it has never been used “in a doctrinal way.”

But he said it would be “quite simple” and involve presenting on the one hand the “clear teaching of the Church” and on the other “what is actually being taught by the Roman Pontiff.” The teaching in question in particular relates to doctrinal matters published in the Pope's 2016 apostolic exhortation, Amoris laetitia.


“If there is a contradiction, the Roman Pontiff is called to conform his own teaching in obedience to Christ and the Magisterium of the Church,” the cardinal explained, adding that a “formal declaration” would be submitted to the Holy Father to which he would be “obliged to respond.”


The cardinal stressed that the dubia, five questions which he and three other cardinals (Cardinals Carlo Caffarra, Walter Brandmüller and Joachim Meisner) issued nearly a year ago, aimed to give the Holy Father the occasion to clarify these aspects of Church teaching.


They were issued in a “very respectful way and not in any way aggressive,” he said, but as the Pope has “chosen not to respond” to them, “so it is now necessary simply to state what the Church teaches about marriage, the family, acts that are intrinsically evil, and so forth.”


“These are the points that are not clear in the current teachings of the Roman Pontiff; therefore, this situation must be corrected. The correction would then direct itself principally to those doctrinal points,” he said.


The cardinal, a former prefect of the Apostolic Signatura, the Church’s highest court, did not give a timeframe for the correction, but hinted at its urgency by stressing that the Church is “being torn asunder right now by confusion and division” and that unity is at stake.


The Holy Father must be called on to exercise his office to put an end to this,” he said.


Cardinal Burke first suggested a possible formal correction of the Pope in an interview with the Register last November, saying it is “clearly quite rare” but if there was no response, then it would be a “question of taking a formal act of correction of a serious error.” He spoke then of “tremendous division” that is “not the way of the Church.”


In his latest interview, he said he finds the situation “has only worsened” and pointed to groups of lay faithful, priests and bishops he has met who are “practically in desperation” over what is happening.


Any fraternal correction is expected to be undertaken in the first place in camera caritatis, in other words, not in public, according to Cardinal Brandmüller.


In his interview with The Wanderer, the cardinal warned of the danger of schism if universal doctrinal discipline is not restored, but reiterated his firm opposition to that ever happening. “A schism can never be correct,” he said, adding that what is happening is a situation of apostasy that the Blessed Mother warned about in her Message of Fatima.


“There can be apostasy within the Church and this, in fact, is what is going on,” he said. “In connection with the apostasy, Our Lady also referred to the failure of pastors to bring the Church to unity.”


In a speech last month, Cardinal Burke observed that disorientation and error had entered into the Church “in a diabolical way,” but encouraged the faithful to remain steadfast in the faith as well as courageous and serene, knowing Christ’s victory is “already written.”


http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/cardinal-burke-outlines-formal-correction-of-pope-francis-teaching


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Post time 25-8-2017 10:09 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
prettyuglybabe replied at 24-8-2017 09:42 PM
kat mana yg tulis dia bekas askar sakit mental?

Bekas anggota keselamatan kalau tak polis,askar la kan?..
Yang sakit mental tu,semua cerita dia tu berbentuk halusinasi..
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Post time 25-8-2017 10:16 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
oppol replied at 25-8-2017 10:09 PM
Bekas anggota keselamatan kalau tak polis,askar la kan?..
Yang sakit mental tu,semua cerita dia t ...

entah-entah pak guard je tak?
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Post time 25-8-2017 10:31 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
prettyuglybabe replied at 25-8-2017 10:16 PM
entah-entah pak guard je tak?

Pak guard di panggil pengawal keselamatan
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Post time 25-8-2017 10:41 PM | Show all posts
Edited by cmf_shalom at 25-8-2017 11:03 PM
chazey replied at 25-8-2017 09:25 PM
Umat Kristen tau la pergolakan politik dalaman organisasi gereja tu gimana yach?

Btw mo ...



2 perkara major kontroversi dlm pentadbiran Francis sekarang:

-Transformasi ke atas Roman Curia yang cuba beliau lakukan
- Isu berhubung dokumen Amoris Laetitia

so, sapa ingat keja Pope ni senang ala2 bayangan TUHAN..dimana semua umat katholik kena tunduk n patuh? ..kata2 beliau x boleh disangkal..beliau x boleh ditegur or apa sahaja..ala2 mcm TUHAN...

Siapa2 yang study betul sejarah gereja RC..tau sangat la psl isu krisis macam ni..xde maknanya semua ummah katholik mcm lembu kena cucuk idong oleh Pope..propa sesengat..

Agak2..if iman masjid pi antar surat ke mufti negeri mcm kardinal antar surat berstatus dubia (korang gugel sendiri maksud ini) kpd Pope...apa reaksi ummah Isle?
a. Ni semua yahudi/nasroni punya keja
b. jarum jarum halussssss Yahudi/nasroni berjaya pecah belah ummah
c. dunia nak kiamat..yahudi/nasroni pasti happy
d. semua di atas..

yachhhhh



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Post time 26-8-2017 01:30 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
wanitajelita replied at 24-8-2017 06:05 PM
Pernah tak korang2 yg bekerja di Kementerian belia, KPW, MOF, MOE, Institusi agama dll ni, sakit kep ...

..yuppp, betul banget apa ko yg cakap tuh ... typical acik kepam gomen
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Post time 26-8-2017 01:33 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
nobito replied at 25-8-2017 12:36 PM
Air Holy Water Kristian kau tu air cum keluar dr bughit hasil zina Father dengan sister2 dalam ger ...

Tapi air holy water yg keluar dari bughit tu lah yang paling ditakuti oleh para Mulayu sunni maha suci ... betapa raouhnya iman mereka ...
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Post time 26-8-2017 03:26 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by nobito at 26-8-2017 03:28 AM
pyropura replied at 26-8-2017 01:33 AM
Tapi air holy water yg keluar dari bughit tu lah yang paling ditakuti oleh para Mulayu sunni maha  ...


Air holy water bughit sister  tu minuman kau kan dik?

Sebab tu iman kau dah rapoh.
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Post time 26-8-2017 05:03 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
nobito replied at 26-8-2017 03:26 AM
Air holy water bughit sister  tu minuman kau kan dik?

Sebab tu iman kau dah rapoh.

Iman aku kuat, sebab tu aku tak takut dgn holyshit water, tak takut salib, tak takut yahudi, tak takut terpesong dek Bible bahasa mulayu.... tak macam iman sebahagian mulayu sunni macam ko, cawan keling kapir pun takot
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Post time 26-8-2017 05:21 AM | Show all posts
krustykrab replied at 25-8-2017 04:25 PM
simpati dgn nasib sis, apa yg berlaku tu sbb org2 yang duduk di kerusi yang sepatutnya bantu org y ...

yang buat undang2 tu puak janatan,

mesti nak menangkan puak depa..

keje nk tangkap orang khalwat, kenapa xpergi tangkap bapa yang xkeje yang dok makan duit bini,yang xmenanggung nafkah anak2..

sebab bapa tu jantan, sama species dengang mereka,kang tertangkap geng mereka pula
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Post time 26-8-2017 09:05 AM | Show all posts
Selalu Melayu konon murtad ni mesti buat cerita tipu. Kena umpan, pastu dibagi holy water utk minum. Padahal holy water tu bukan utk minum pun. Nak baptis tak perlu teguk holy water, cukup takat upacara ringkas rendam kepala dalam air jah.
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