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Post time 26-1-2024 11:01 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
airfilterkotor replied at 25-1-2024 04:32 AM
Kalau benar pun sejarah tercatat kerajaan melayu dahulu ada kapal yg besar, aku tak heran.

Sebabnya ...

Iya ada terbaca majalah wanita ke apa dulu.Pasal tukang buat kapal dekat terengganu.Dah banyak generations beratus tahun,atuk,moyang semua buat kapal.

Customer dia semua orang putih,sanggup tinggal kat terengganu berbulan/tahun nak tunggu siap.Apparently,moyang dulu2 ada buat kapal untuk viking katanyaa lah.

Tapi betul la tak heran kalau kerajaan melayu dulu ada kapal besar2,melayu ni pun banyak merantau.kat australia,melayu sampai sebelum orang putih ye.Ada puisi aborigin dekat ship wreck museum,fremantle pasal melayu 500 tahun dulu.
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Post time 26-1-2024 11:10 AM | Show all posts
Tinot7 replied at 26-1-2024 08:13 AM
Orang sama ka ni?

Serge Jardin was born in 1954 in a small village of the French countryside. In 19 ...

Ye org yg sama. Kat FB Group Melaka sindir tourist guide aje tp terpaling tahu pasal Melaka berbanding org Melaka sendiri seolah2 org kita ni bodoh sgt pasal sejarah. Tu komen yg aku baca la..
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Post time 26-1-2024 11:14 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Straya replied at 26-1-2024 11:01 AM
Iya ada terbaca majalah wanita ke apa dulu.Pasal tukang buat kapal dekat terengganu.Dah banyak gen ...

Sejak bila lak Viking sampai ke Asia Tenggara order kapal dari oram melayu...
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Post time 26-1-2024 11:30 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Saya tak faham aba benda ko orang nak cakap pasal Columbus ni. Mereka tidak pernah pun mendakwa bangsa mereka yang pertama sampai ke bumi utara Amerika.

The earliest Americans arrived in the New World 30,000 years ago

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People travelled by boat to North America some 30,000 years ago, at a time when giant animals still roamed the continent and long before it was thought the earliest arrivals had made the crossing from Asia, archaeological research reveals today.

Researchers from the University of Oxford have published a study, showing important new insights into our understanding of these ‘First Americans’, who made the journey from eastern Eurasia before the last Ice Age. And it reveals that the arrival of humans in numbers coincided with the ‘catastrophic decline’ in now-extinct large animals, including camels, horses and mammoths.

The arrival of humans in numbers coincided with the ‘catastrophic decline’ in now-extinct large animals, including camels, horses and mammoths
Based on a powerful statistical approach, the international team, led by Oxford’s Professor Tom Higham, Director of the Oxford Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit, School of Archaeology, was able to build a chronological framework for the arrival of humans into North America – and their dispersal across the continent.

This showed that people were present long before previous estimates - before, during and after the ‘Last Glacial Maximum’, the peak of the Ice Age, when temperatures fell to their lowest for tens of thousands of years.  But, the research, also shows that they must have come by sea, rather than across a land bridge.

According to Professor Higham, ‘A combination of new excavations and cutting-edge archaeological science is allowing us to uncover a new story of the colonisation of the Americas. The First Americans came from eastern Eurasia, and it looks as though there was a surprisingly-early movement of people into the continent.

‘The people that travelled into these new lands must have come by boat, because the northern parts of North America were impenetrable and sealed off from eastern Eurasia by a massive ice sheet until 13,000 years ago.

The discovery that people were here more than 30,000 years ago raises a range of key new questions about who these people were, how they lived, how widespread they were and, ultimately, what their fate was
‘The discovery that people were here more than 30,000 years ago raises a range of key new questions about who these people were, how they lived, how widespread they were and, ultimately, what their fate was.’

In addition, when the timeline for humans was compared with dates obtained for extinct animals, the analysis showed human expansion, during this warmer period, happened at broadly the same time as their disappearance.  The team suggests an increase in human population seems to be linked to a significant impact on the catastrophic decline of these large megafauna.

One of the team, Dr Lorena Becerra-Valdivia (now with the University of New South Wales), says, ‘The peopling of the Americas was a complex and dynamic process...What is clear is that humans were present in the continent well before previously accepted dates. But it was only around 14,700 years ago that those people became more highly visible in the archaeological record, likely due to an increase in population.’

It seems likely to us that the people...represent a ‘failed colonisation’, one which may well have left no genetically detectable heritage in today’s First Americans’ populations
Alongside this research, another team, led by Dr Ciprian Ardelean, from the University of Zacatecas, Mexico, and the University of Exeter, has disclosed the results of a decade of excavation of a high-altitude cave in Chiquihite, central Mexico. The cave has shown occupation earlier than anything previously known and, according to Dr Ardelean, ‘It seems likely to us that the people of Chiquihuite represent a ‘failed colonization’, one which may well have left no genetically detectable heritage in today’s First Americans’ populations.’

Dr Jean-Luc Schwenniger, who heads Oxford’s Luminescence Dating Laboratory at the School of Archaeology, notes, ‘Our involvement in the dating of this extraordinary site stretches back almost ten years and finally to see the results published is immensely satisfying...the publication of these new discoveries and findings, which rock and challenge long established views, required extra amounts of diligence, scrutiny, patience and perseverance.’

The Oxford results are based on hundreds of dates obtained from 42 archaeological sites in North America and Beringia (the ancient land bridge connecting the continent to Asia).  The team used a statistical approach known as Bayesian age modelling performed on software (OxCal) developed in Oxford by Professor Christopher Bronk Ramsey. The analysis estimates the start of human occupation at different sites, as well as the commencement of three distinct stone tool traditions in these regions. Dates were combined statistically along with stratigraphic information from the deposits to estimate the start and end of human occupation at each of the sites and then plotted spatially across the continent. The Oxford work was funded by the Natural Environment Research Council (NERC; grant NF/2017/1/2), Merton College, Santander, and the Clarendon Fund. The latter also provided the funding for the paper titled, “The timing and impact of the earliest human arrivals in North America”
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Post time 26-1-2024 11:38 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/christopher-columbus#:~:text=In%20actual%20fact%2C%20Columbus%20did,to%20Central%20and%20South%20America.

Christopher Columbus
He's famous for 'discovering the new world', but did Columbus actually set foot in North America?
Explorer Christopher Columbus (1451–1506) is known for his 1492 ‘discovery’ of the 'new world' of the Americas on board his ship Santa Maria.
In actual fact, Columbus did not discover North America. He was the first European to sight the Bahamas archipelago and then the island later named Hispaniola, now split into Haiti and the Dominican Republic. On his subsequent voyages he went farther south, to Central and South America. He never got close to what is now called the United States.
Where was Christopher Columbus born?
Columbus was born in the Italian seaport of Genoa in 1451, to a family of wool weavers. He went to sea from an early age, and was an experienced sailor by his twenties.
In 1476 Columbus moved to Lisbon, Portugal, and for many years attempted to gain support for a journey he was planning to find new trade routes to the Far East. Eventually Ferdinand and Isabella, the King and Queen of Spain, agreed to finance him.
What did Columbus aim to do?
In the 15th and 16th centuries, Europeans wanted to find sea routes to the Far East. Columbus wanted to find a new route to India, China, Japan and the Spice Islands. If he could reach these lands, he would be able to bring back rich cargoes of silks and spices. Columbus knew that the world was round and realised that by sailing west – instead of east around the coast of Africa, as other explorers at the time were doing – he would still reach his destination.
What ships did he use?
In 1492 Columbus set sail from Palos in Spain with three ships. Two, the Nina and the Pinta, were caravels – small ships with triangular sails. The third, the Santa Maria, was a nao – a larger square-rigged ship. The ships were small, between 15 and 36 metres long. Between them they carried about 90 men.
What did he discover?
After sailing across the Atlantic Ocean for 10 weeks, land was sighted by a sailor called Rodrigo Bernajo (although Columbus himself took the credit for this). He landed on a small island in the Bahamas, which he named San Salvador. He claimed the island for the King and Queen of Spain, although it was already populated.
Columbus called all the people he met in the islands ‘Indians’, because he was sure that he had reached the Indies. This initial encounter opened up the 'New World' to European colonisation, which would come to have a devastating impact on indigenous populations.
What was the return journey like?
On Christmas Day 1492, the Santa Maria hit a rock and was wrecked. Columbus transferred to the Nina and left behind the 39 crewmembers of the Santa Maria on the island of Hispaniola. He wanted them to start a new settlement. Columbus reached Spain in March 1493, and claimed his reward in riches. He was also given new titles. He was made Admiral of the Ocean Sea and Governor of the Indies.
What other journeys did Columbus make?
Columbus made three more journeys across the Atlantic to the Caribbean. He was sure that he had found Cipangu (Japan), but it was actually Cuba. He visited Trinidad and the South American mainland before returning to the ill-fated Hispaniola settlement, where the ‘Indian’ inhabitants had staged a revolt against the Europeans.
Conditions were so bad that Spanish authorities had to send a new governor to take over. Columbus was arrested, returned to Spain and stripped of his titles. He did make one last voyage to the Americas, however, this time to Panama – just miles from the Pacific Ocean.
What is Columbus’s legacy?
Columbus died in 1506, still believing that he had found a new route to the East Indies. Today his historic legacy as a daring explorer who discovered the New World has been challenged. His voyages launched centuries of European exploration and colonisation of the American continents. His encounters also triggered centuries of exploitation of Indigenous Peoples
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Post time 26-1-2024 11:41 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
airfilterkotor replied at 26-1-2024 03:14 AM
Sejak bila lak Viking sampai ke Asia Tenggara order kapal dari oram melayu...


Itu iol cakap katanyaa lah ..Tapi dia memang popular among europeans yg kaya2.Dia buat kapal yg harga ratus ribu tu & setahun,1 aje dia boleh buat.Special kapal dia tak guna paku,skill dr moyang2.Ada pic with his customer orang putih yg duduk t’ganu sementara tunggu siap.Nama pakcik tu lupa pulak
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Post time 26-1-2024 12:27 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Tinot7 replied at 26-1-2024 08:08 AM
Mmg betui masa mesia singapura berpecah, org johor dibenarkan pilih nak dok johor dan jadi wargane ...

Aku pon dah tak rapat dgn cousin aku kat sg like it was. Dulu mmg growing up sesama. Cuti sek mmg aku port kat singapore wakakakaka.  tapi skang jumpa time raya & kenduri kahwin je sometimes kematian. Tapi mati jarang la aku pegi, kahwin ok lagi sebab majlis dah schedule. Byk faktor yg memisahkan kami gituhhhh. currency, passport, visa validity dan mcm2 lah. Dulu ada passport biru pastu duit kita dgn sg pon beza 10sen ke 20 sen je. Skang berapa 3.4 yaa. Aritu aku top up autopass $50 tukar sini mcm 170 ke 180 gituh. Byk siot beza.
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Post time 26-1-2024 01:02 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
tungkai replied at 26-1-2024 11:10 AM
Ye org yg sama. Kat FB Group Melaka sindir tourist guide aje tp terpaling tahu pasal Melaka berban ...

Patut la dia merempan kat medsos jahh..

Utk jurnal, mmg peer-reviewed dan kalau nak bangkang apa yg ditulis sekalipun, mmg kena tulis kat jurnal tu.. pelik juga stail mcm ni..
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Post time 26-1-2024 01:09 PM | Show all posts
Straya replied at 26-1-2024 11:41 AM
Itu iol cakap katanyaa lah  ..Tapi dia memang popular among europeans yg kaya2.Dia buat kapal yg ...

Kesah yg buat kapal utk omputeh tu penah keluar dalam sokabar... dulu-dulu laa tak ingat tahun bila.

Tapi Viking memang tak penah jejak kaki ke Nusantara untuk order kapal laut.
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Post time 26-1-2024 01:09 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
_blackbird replied at 26-1-2024 12:27 PM
Aku pon dah tak rapat dgn cousin aku kat sg like it was. Dulu mmg growing up sesama. Cuti sek mmg  ...

Iols kenai sorang acik ni.. sbb dia dok dgn nenek, dia sorang jahh jadi org johor.. kuarga dia sumer jadi org singapura.. kekadang iols pikiaq, kuarga mcm ni ada kecelaruan identiti dak? Kalau perang antara mesia dan singapura, deme nak pilih kuarga ka pilih tanah tumpah darah?
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Post time 26-1-2024 01:30 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Decaffeinated replied at 23-1-2024 12:56 PM
Sejarah harus dilihat dari kacamata mereka yang tiada kepentingan. Kalau sendiri yang tulis, kecende ...

Habis tu sejarah british, perancis dan negara eropah lain2 tu nak ke diorg dengar sejarawan kita

Knowing mat saleh ni mmg nak tunjuk bangsa dia je yg terpaling
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Post time 26-1-2024 01:33 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Tinot7 replied at 26-1-2024 01:09 PM
Iols kenai sorang acik ni.. sbb dia dok dgn nenek, dia sorang jahh jadi org johor.. kuarga dia sum ...

Biasa mcm ni average bonding tu boleh tahan 3 gen je pon. Gen ke 4 dah tak close pon. Silap2 tak kenal langsung kalau berselisih bahu.

Mcm aku & kawan2 aku kat johor. Yg mana time break up my-sg zaman atok / parent. kitorg rapat sampai level cousin and some second cousin. Bila besar pon dah byk buat hal masing2 or dah lupa dah pon. Dulu yg gigih nak selalu attend catch up session tu elders la, diorg pon dah 90% mati dah pon. Yg baki masih hidup pon dah sakit2 tak boleh jalan jauh Hehehe. Gen anak aku & anak cousin2 mmg dah tak kenal dah. Jumpa pon time raya setahun skali, kadang raya pon tak jumpa.

Kalau perang mmg boleh la choose side huhuhu bond tu dah takda
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Post time 26-1-2024 02:13 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Ai pun baru tau pasal sejarah hitler, nazi, jews dioutar belitkan. In fact journalist western yg dedahkan.
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Post time 26-1-2024 06:23 PM | Show all posts
SalenaGomez replied at 26-1-2024 01:30 PM
Habis tu sejarah british, perancis dan negara eropah lain2 tu nak ke diorg dengar sejarawan kita

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Sejarah Europe well documented sejak zaman byzantine atau earlier, bukti melambak2 dorang tak perlu pun sejarawan kita tapi kalau ada yang rasa lebih tau dari depa why not. Cuma make sure boleh defendlah bukan sembang kosong guna sentimen apa lagi menipu gambar. Kalau kantoi zaman internet ni memang tak cukup tanah lah kena hambat.

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Post time 26-1-2024 06:26 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Decaffeinated replied at 26-1-2024 06:23 PM
Sejarah Europe well documented sejak zaman byzantine atau earlier, bukti melambak2 dorang tak perl ...

Pernah baca document sejarah kita ni byk yg dihapuskan / dibakar…
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Post time 26-1-2024 06:36 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Straya replied at 26-1-2024 11:01 AM
Iya ada terbaca majalah wanita ke apa dulu.Pasal tukang buat kapal dekat terengganu.Dah banyak gen ...

Ayah wan khadijah coline ke?


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Post time 26-1-2024 06:41 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
tungkai replied at 26-1-2024 11:10 AM
Ye org yg sama. Kat FB Group Melaka sindir tourist guide aje tp terpaling tahu pasal Melaka berban ...

XX Ray II ada Lydiawati kerja curator bercerita pasal sejarah Melaka.

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Post time 26-1-2024 06:45 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
_blackbird replied at 26-1-2024 01:33 PM
Biasa mcm ni average bonding tu boleh tahan 3 gen je pon. Gen ke 4 dah tak close pon. Silap2 tak k ...

Manakala org2 india mesia masih keep in touch dgn sedara2 deme kat india..
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Post time 29-1-2024 05:56 PM | Show all posts
Edited by nusaraya at 29-1-2024 07:15 PM

inilah akibat Malaysia terobsesi sebagai pemilik dan penguasa alam melayu ...

Semua itu adalah tamadun melayu .... hak mlik kami.......hak milik bangsa melayu mahawangsa ...... Hehehehe







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Post time 29-1-2024 07:29 PM | Show all posts

Bangsa Melayu  Kuasa Maritim Dunia... Hehehehe




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