The spirit squeezed him more tightly. Is this how angel do that??

Truth.8

Originally posted by babybueno at  02:53 PM:
nope...i havent heard of anything about jesus and his link with any woman except his mother, a virgin mary and that makes the atheists or gay rights group claimed him as homosexual.

you dont bel ...

4 ur kind info, we talking about spirit in that cave not Jesus. if u want to talk about Jesus, pls create new topic.

so, who that spirit in cave of hira muhammad talking to???

Pls click here for further reading:  http://www.prophetofdoom.net/chapter7.html

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babybueno

are you questioning whether it was really gabriel or satan came to Muhammad at cave of hira? Let me ask you one question, if the evil spirit came to muhammad in the cave of hira why he didnt ask muhammad to pray for satan?

Truth.8

Originally posted by babybueno at  04:20 PM:
are you questioning whether it was really gabriel or satan came to Muhammad at cave of hira? Let me ask you one question, if the evil spirit came to muhammad in the cave of hira why he didnt ask mu ...

then why muhammad was trembling and ask his wife to "cover me"

hve u visited the link i gave??

kyas

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 2004-12-15 12:40 PM:
show me verse that Daniel saw ugly demon???

then show me a verse saying muhammad saw ugly demon...

mr me said muhammad saw ugly demon... that was why muhammad was so scared...

please note that zakaria was also scared when he met gabriel... daniel was also scared when he met gabriel... daniel even fell sick for a few days due to the event... so u guys can conclude that they too saw an ugly demon.

kyas

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 2004-12-15 12:39 PM:
the angel comfort Zechariah by saying do not afraid

the angel comfort Muhammad by hugging him... and revealing the first verse...

kyas

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 2004-12-15 12:35 PM:
None of the above paragraphs shows that the Angel force himself upon the prophet and orders him to do something. Muhammad was the first.

but the were all scared right? gabriel did not force him to do anything... it was the first verse given to muhammad... the first in surah al alaq... iqra bismirobbikallazi holak...

mr me said muhammad saw ugly demon... that was why muhammad was so scared...

did i?


i thought i say " wasn't angel supposed to be beautiful"

are you twisting my post?

kyas

Originally posted by me at 2004-12-16 09:23 AM:
i thought i say " wasn't angel supposed to be beautiful"
are you twisting my post?

read your posts:

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 2004-12-13 02:39 PM:
why muhammad so scared?? seeing demon at that cave??

Originally posted by me at 2004-12-13 03:20 PM:
you got a point there...wasn't angel suppose to be beautiful...why so scare?

the point is zakaria and daniel were scared to. seeing demon?

t8 said...seeing demons at that cave??

that's a question mark...

babybueno

by babybueno
are you questioning whether it was really gabriel or satan came to Muhammad at cave of hira? Let me ask you one question, if the evil spirit came to muhammad in the cave of hira why he didnt ask muhammad to pray for satan?

by Truth.8
then why muhammad was trembling and ask his wife to "cover me"

hve u visited the link i gave??

FYI I've visited that link but my question remain unanswered. Remember before he met Gabriel in the cave of Hira, Muhammad was one of the pagans. He wasnt a christian eventhough your religion was said older than Islam and I believe at that point of time Muhammad was unheard of the name of Allah or even satan until gabriel came to him and told him that god has chosen him as his messenger. If you think the spirit who came to Muhammad in the cave of hira was actually satan why wouldnt satan asks Muhammad to pray for satan himself?

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kyas

Originally posted by me at 2004-12-16 09:51 AM:
t8 said...seeing demons at that cave??

that's a question mark...

your question may lead to assumptions

watever it is ...

please admit that being scared when seeing an angel is not a strange thing...

[ Last edited by kyas on 16-12-2004 at 10:06 AM ]

yes it's not that strange...but the scared that muhammad is in...that like seeing something terrible...

kyas

Originally posted by me at 2004-12-16 10:52 AM:
yes it's not that strange...

ok since u said it yourself... end of the story...

but then u continue...

Originally posted by me at 2004-12-16 10:52 AM:
but the scared that muhammad is in...that like seeing something terrible...

what else can i say... daniel fell sick for a week after meeting gabriel... that also like seeing something terrible

Debmey

Originally posted by babybueno at 2004-12-16 10:00 AM:
FYI I've visited that link but my question remain unanswered. Remember before he met Gabriel in the cave of Hira, Muhammad was one of the pagans. He wasnt a christian eventhough your religi ...

OIC, Muhamad was a pagan.
Thats gonna get yu into trouble with the fundies.

Originally posted by me at 2004-12-16 10:52 AM:
yes it's not that strange...but the scared that muhammad is in...that like seeing something terrible...

Of course he was scared. It was the first time that he  expereinced an encounter  with an angel in real life. He was telling the truth and no Muslim changed the story of the incident  to please people like you or to make Islam more attractive.

If it had been an incident that affected christianity you people would have changed the story out of embarrasment ~ just like the bible writers did in the so-called new testament ~ to attract more converts ~ to sell your fairy tale.

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babybueno

Originally posted by Debmey at 16-12-2004 11:21 AM:


OIC, Muhamad was a pagan.
Thats gonna get yu into trouble with the fundies.

what do you mean by that? he wasnt a christian before gabriel came to him...was he? tell me what religion he had before he brought islam?

Originally posted by KENNKID at 16-12-2004 11:23 AM:


Of course he was scared. It was the first time that he  expereinced an encounter  with an angel in real life. He was telling the truth and no Muslim change ...

people nowadays don't afraid of beautiful "pontianak"...

the bible changed...? show me the real one...?

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Truth.8

I was scared b4. this my true experience:



this true incident happened to me when i was 7 yrs old. at midnite while all my family members sleeping, i hear someone calling names so loudly. strange non of my family member heard but they all sleeping. So loud and loud until it scream and open my sleeping room door. What i did? i cover my self with blanket because i was fear it was devil /or ghost.  After few yrs when I was 22yrs, i ask my mum about screaming and loud noise at my pervious house. My mum claimed that place used to be Japanese soliders  slauthering victims. Now, i understood the soul is unrest.

The above incident is truth.

so, what does muhammad saw in cave of hira until his wife to blanket him?? demon, jinn or that so called angel?? judge 4urself.

babybueno

Originally posted by me at 16-12-2004 11:51 AM:


people nowadays don't afraid of beautiful "pontianak"...

the bible changed...? show me the real one...?

[ Last edited by me on 16-12-2004 at 11:54 AM ]

who doesnt? if that beautiful "pontianak" as beautiful as Maya Karin;)

now back to the topic.....

it was obvious that Danial & Zachary were also afraid when they met Gabriel. Why questioning wether Muhammad had seen Gabriel or Satan just because the spirit who came to him scared him off?

[ Last edited by babybueno on 16-12-2004 at 12:18 PM ]

Truth.8

Originally posted by babybueno at  10:00 AM:




FYI I've visited that link but my question remain unanswered. Remember before he met Gabriel in the cave of Hira, Muhammad was one of the pagans. He wasnt a christian eventhough your religi ...

satan will never show true color until ...........

even the 10commandement which given by God to Moses was change  by ur muhammad. do u see the differences? so who and who telling the truth here??