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[Tempatan] 'PUASA FOR MALAYSIA’ PENGHINAAN KEPADA ISLAM, TAK WAJAR DITERUSKAN .

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Post time 24-7-2017 06:57 PM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 24-7-2017 07:47 PM
M5 replied at 22-7-2017 10:28 PM
Tick tock tick tock kunun. Ngape? ko ingat org nanti kagum la dgn ko kunun tau cerite sebenar mcma ...

Ha ha .. ko jugak dgn gah nya kata ada empirical evidence ttg 'common descent'

Ok mana dia empirical evidence tersebut? Sampai skg ko tak mampu bagi. Science is very fair .. kita skg cakap based on evidence pasal ko yg bawak masuk kononnya scientific evidence

Soalan dia senang aje .. single --> multi cellular is the most basic kalo nak cakap pasal common descent. Mana 'empirical evidence' ko? Tak nampak apa2 pon melainkan ko cuba larikan diri

Kalo ko tak ada bukti  , cakap aje tak ada. Senang .. habis cerita .. ko tak payah nak pusing sana sini

Isu Quran cakap pasal manusia dari tanah liat korang tak mampu challenge pon pasal ko tak mampu buktikan sebaliknya. Quran tak bagi proses dia , tu pasal Ibn Khaldun dah cakap pasal tersebut beratus tahun sebelum Darwin.

Kegunaan isu common descent kalo nak kata Islam / Quran salah ... LOL .. ko tersasar lah  

Oops BTW , ni dia Peer Reviewed Publication ttg tanah liat being a possible origin of life :
6. Conclusions

This article describes the role of clay minerals in chemical evolution although various other materials in the early Earth would have participated in the formation of life-like structures. Most experiments related to the origins of life on Earth use specific clay minerals, such as montmorillonite and kaolinite. Volcanic rocks from the magma ocean would be enriched in Mg2+ ions. On this basis, we have investigated the interactions of Mg-rich clay minerals (e.g., talc, serpentine) with organic molecules, including bio-organic compounds. It is further suggested that the atmosphere of the early Earth contained little oxygen. This condition would be conducive to the formation of Fe2+-rich clay minerals which, therefore, might have played an important part in the synthesis of simple bio-organic molecules.

Besides being able to concentrate organic molecules, clay minerals can also control the surface arrangement of adsorbed nucleic acid bases or amino acids. By using a mixture of different clay mineral species, it may be possible to select a given bio-molecule over another for adsorption and polymerization. Although there is an element of trial and error in investigating the role of clay minerals in chemical evolution and the origins of life, we may yet be surprised by the outcome.

Uh - oh , apa yg ko tanya tadi ...
Saintis simple je, jika observation yg kamu bawa itu adalah fakta berlandaskan bukti dan terbukti benar, satu dunia lain boleh mula purcaya bahwa manusia asalnya dari tanah liat dan bukan seiring dlm rantaian evolusi spesis2 lain kat donia ini.

Senang aje .. aku ada bukti / rujukkan ttg ongoing experimen ttg tanah liat & kemungkinan kehidupan .. ko ada apa?


Kah kah kah .. kesian

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Post time 24-7-2017 07:01 PM | Show all posts
Maideen. replied at 23-7-2017 01:29 PM
Dulu setelah dia google, dia masok dengan hujah bahawa harus seorang tua kawen dengan budak kecik  ...

Ha ha ....  l̶o̶y̶a̶r̶ ̶k̶a̶r̶a̶t̶  oops legal assistant maideen dah pening .. dah mati kutu

Soalan senang aje pasal korang nak cakap sgt pasal common descent : bagi lah bukti single --> multi cellular evolution

Tersentap .. tak mampu jawab .. lepas tu ko , si M5 & king of tunggeng , katowjo .. mula lah menangis sama sendiri

Korang Three Stooges ni yg dok menangis sama sendiri ni buat apa .. jawab aje lah soalan tersebut ...

Oops .. korangtak ada jawapan ye .. yg gatai cakap pasal empirical evidence buat apa?

Ulang tayang temberang yg konfom pader@ loyar karat Maideen dah kantoi

Pos#21 dari ko
Oklah...dia tak ada tulis pasal omputih di England dan Amrika pon kawen dengan budak pompuan kecik jugak.....

Pos#23 dari bro airfilterkotor
Yang ko baru tulis tu pun takdak.
Lagi mo tokok tambah.

Ko dah kenapa Meideen?  
Ni nak tanya.... sirap dah amik

Pos #24 dari ko
Tak dak jugak ka?

Tak pa lah.......

Dah tak boleh lari ..... terpaksa mengaku yg diri sendiri kuat temberang ...... loyar auta

Macam pondan tua ..... dgn sedih & penuh rendah diri ....... "tak pe lah"........ pssst , ko ada menitiskan air mata?

Kesian ....

Kah kah kah

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Post time 24-7-2017 07:46 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
sam1528 replied at 24-7-2017 06:57 PM
Ha ha .. ko jugak dgn gah nya kata ada empirical evidence ttg 'common descent'

Ok mana dia empi ...

tick tock tick tock single cell ko ni ajaran harun yahya ka? Prrtthhh   

apa cite yg complicated sangat sampai saintis satu donia tak boleh nak paham kalu betul manusia tu asalnya dari tanah liat?

Tick tock tick tock kunun


Bengong

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Post time 24-7-2017 07:49 PM | Show all posts
M5 replied at 24-7-2017 07:46 PM
tick tock tick tock single cell ko ni ajaran harun yahya ka? Prrtthhh   

apa cite yg ...

Ha ha . kesian , aku ulang balik dari peer reviewed publication :
6. Conclusions
This article describes the role of clay minerals in chemical evolution although various other materials in the early Earth would have participated in the formation of life-like structures. Most experiments related to the origins of life on Earth use specific clay minerals, such as montmorillonite and kaolinite. Volcanic rocks from the magma ocean would be enriched in Mg2+ ions. On this basis, we have investigated the interactions of Mg-rich clay minerals (e.g., talc, serpentine) with organic molecules, including bio-organic compounds. It is further suggested that the atmosphere of the early Earth contained little oxygen. This condition would be conducive to the formation of Fe2+-rich clay minerals which, therefore, might have played an important part in the synthesis of simple bio-organic molecules.
Besides being able to concentrate organic molecules, clay minerals can also control the surface arrangement of adsorbed nucleic acid bases or amino acids. By using a mixture of different clay mineral species, it may be possible to select a given bio-molecule over another for adsorption and polymerization. Although there is an element of trial and error in investigating the role of clay minerals in chemical evolution and the origins of life, we may yet be surprised by the outcome.

Uh - oh , apa yg ko tanya tadi ...
Saintis simple je, jika observation yg kamu bawa itu adalah fakta berlandaskan bukti dan terbukti benar, satu dunia lain boleh mula purcaya bahwa manusia asalnya dari tanah liat dan bukan seiring dlm rantaian evolusi spesis2 lain kat donia ini.

Senang aje .. aku ada bukti / rujukkan ttg ongoing experimen ttg tanah liat & kemungkinan kehidupan .. ko ada apa?

Lets see how good you are ... tick tock tick tock

Kah kah kah ... tak lama gelabah lah tu .. kesian

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Post time 24-7-2017 08:04 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
sam1528 replied at 24-7-2017 07:49 PM
Ha ha . kesian , aku ulang balik dari peer reviewed publication :

Uh - oh , apa yg ko tanya tad ...

Apa yg lobai merepek ni. Kertas kajian tu takde kena mengena dgn konsep creationist agama semitic termasuk agama islam. Ko nak menipu pun agak2 la.

The whole thing pasal paper tu ialah bagaimana clay material interaction dgn surrounding to form certain chemical compounds amino acid lipids bagai.  This is on molecular level punya cite. Ini involve evolution.

Kamu punya agama termasuk yahudi kristian kata manusia pertama dah dibentuk jadi ropa tubuh badan fizikal manusia dari tanah liat. And suddently voila jadi manusia bernama Adam.

Ko jgn suka temberanh boleh dak?


Saintis kunun.

Tick tock tick tock

Bengong

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Post time 24-7-2017 08:20 PM | Show all posts
M5 replied at 24-7-2017 08:04 PM
Apa yg lobai merepek ni. Kertas kajian tu takde kena mengena dgn konsep creationist agama semitic  ...

Ha ha .. tengok aje kebodohan ko pasal ko nak lari

Isu sains vs creationist dah kabur .. ko jugak yg dok canang pasal mana dia kajian ttg tanah liat & kehidupan?

Ko paham ke apa yg ko baca? Ini dia tajuk tersebut '
Role of Clay Minerals in Chemical Evolution and the Origins of Life
Ni dari conclusion tersebut :
Most experiments related to the origins of life on Earth use specific clay minerals, such as montmorillonite and kaolinite. Volcanic rocks from the magma ocean would be enriched in Mg2+ ions. On this basis, we have investigated the interactions of Mg-rich clay minerals (e.g., talc, serpentine) with organic molecules, including bio-organic compounds. It is further suggested that the atmosphere of the early Earth contained little oxygen. This condition would be conducive to the formation of Fe2+-rich clay minerals which, therefore, might have played an important part in the synthesis of simple bio-organic molecules.

Kalo nak baca pon , baca lah sampai habis & pastikan y gko paham apa ko baca

Cuba ko jelaskan kat aku apa maksud 'origins of life' ... LOL macamana ko boleh hanya paham macam ni?
The whole thing pasal paper tu ialah bagaimana clay material interaction dgn surrounding to form certain chemical compounds amino acid lipids bagai.  This is on molecular level punya cite. Ini involve evolution.

Tu pasal aku kata , evolution tetap berlaku .. tapi ko tak paham apa makna evolution? Evolution lain , common descent lain.

Ko dok berkokok ttg common descent .. cakap ada empirical evidence pon .. single ---> multi cells pon ko tak mampu bagi empirical evidence , yg paling basic

Rupa2 nya pemahaman basic ttg evolution & common descent pon ko dah berterabur .. macamana ni tambi .. ada hati pulak kata 'science is fair' lah , ada 'empirical evidence' lah

Nampak gaya ko tak tau apa yg ko dok cakap

Kah kah kah .. terbarai lagi tembelang sorang ateis ni ... agak kurang cerdik ... tick tock tick tock


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Post time 24-7-2017 08:37 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
sam1528 replied at 24-7-2017 08:20 PM
Ha ha .. tengok aje kebodohan ko pasal ko nak lari

Isu sains vs creationist dah kabur .. ko jug ...

Sekejap evolution tetap ada sekejap percaya manusia nama Adam Tuhan buat pakai tanah liat, shape ropa manusia sekarang.. tup tup bernyawa. Celah mana yg manusia tu evolve? ko bolehla perasan lobai bodoh kagum dgn penjelasan ko. Tapi agak2 la sikit kalu nak menipu tu.. prrrtghh
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Post time 24-7-2017 08:47 PM | Show all posts
sekngucing replied at 23-7-2017 10:05 PM
sam.. sam....
muthusamy karuppiah...

Hahahahaha..... what a divine name.
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Post time 24-7-2017 08:51 PM | Show all posts
M5 replied at 24-7-2017 08:37 PM
Sekejap evolution tetap ada sekejap percaya manusia nama Adam Tuhan buat pakai tanah liat, shape r ...

Kihkihkih..........bila evolusinya? Nak tipu pon kantoi memanjang.

Macam tu pon ada hati nak jadi lawyer, ada hati menaku kat board sendu tu ramai orang kagum dengan hujah dia....hahahahahaha
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Post time 24-7-2017 09:29 PM | Show all posts
Edited by M5 at 24-7-2017 09:43 PM
Maideen. replied at 24-7-2017 08:51 PM
Kihkihkih..........bila evolusinya?  Nak tipu pon kantoi memanjang.

Macam tu pon ada  ...

bukannya tak tau trick dia. dia nak deny evolusi tak boleh, tapi at the same time kena purcaya Adam Tuhan buat dari tanah liat. trick tu dari awal dah perasan, pasai tu yg dia dok sebut essence of clay. bukan kita tak tau.

tu yg gigih kena bawak kertas kajian orang pasal origin of life, tapi musti yg ada2 bau tanah liat dlm kajian tu. supaya nanti bila orang tak perasan boleh la dia klaim ada betul la kepercayaan dia tuhan buat manusia pakai tanah liat. pprrtgghh

kalu nak embrace evolution dlm origin of life, kena paham spesis2 yg bernyawa itu SEMUA nya ujud hasil dari proses evolusi. rantaian evolusi ini dlm kata lain bermaksud jika kita trace sejarahnya, maka inevitably ia akan membawa kita ke asas bermulanya kehidupan itu sendiri, yakni single cell yg kemudiannya bercambah menjadi multicellular organism.  ofcourse saintis masih mengkaji bagaimana dan apa kemungkinan2 lain yg mungkin ujud bagaimana single cell ini evolve kepada muticellular organism. tapi kalu ada lobai masih purcaya evolusi, tapi dok cakap manusia itu laennn, pasai dok purcaya creationist punya cite kunun Tuhan buat manusia dari tanah liat, shape in the image of God ka, atau seropa macam manusia moden sekarang ka kita nasihatkan sopaya kepercayaan begitu elok disimpan utk kegunaan sendiri saja la.  tak payahla dok sembang kencang merata tempat mau kasi orang lain kagum. bodoh tak bertempat namanya.

wallahualam
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Post time 24-7-2017 11:03 PM | Show all posts
thehehe..tong kosong serial liar duk melalak kata hadith ade dah masa nabi wujud..ditulis masa nabi hidup teheheh..nak menipu pun agak2 le..

lagi mau tipu tanya mana quran ngan hadis bercanggah..

teheheh...buat2 buta kang malu lagi..

tu lobai redskin tolong tepek berapa kerat ayat quran yang dia sendiri tak paham maksudnya kot..

katanya (quran)..adalah lengkap..nak guna kitab apa lagi selain quran?maka ianya lengkap,dipelihara sepangjang zaman,

alih2..keluar hadis kata quran tak lengkap,tak dipelihara..dimakan kambeng je..hafazan la ko kehulu hilir pun..still surah rejam dan hukum rejam quran tak suruh pun sebab takde tapi hadis ade..tu kan bercanggah..dah 2-3 benda asas yang kritikal bercanggah..

tapi biaslah lobai..terlalu bodoh nak peham benda simple..

last2 konklusinya tetap sama..

quran yang diclaim lengkap,sempurna dan dipelihara adalah tidak lengkap tanpa buku pelengkap yang ditulis manusia parsi untuk melengkap buku yang lengkap tapi tidak lengkap walupun tuhan sendiri claim ianya lengkap....kan gila tu..

tapi ape kan daya..lobai tong kosong kaki menipu suka je caya citer kambeng makan surah,batu leh bercakap..kuda boleh terbang,bulan terbelah dua,api neraka boleh duk sejengkal je ngan kepala manusia....

nak lagi ke?..bagi je lah..sebab sam bodoh bangat

quran kata manusia mapus nak nak dihidupkan dan dihisab oleh dia di hari akhirat,,pastu baru seksa or pi shorga

masuk lak hadis terus kata malaikat nak soal dalam kubur lagi..siap boleh seksa dah..teheheheh..

dey..ni sapa tohan ni...gila punya buku...

patut la orang gila caya tohan takde authoriti kat bomi..

maybe orang gila cam ko gak caya tohan takde authoriti dalam alam kubur..

mueeehhhhhh
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Post time 24-7-2017 11:28 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by Dwdrum at 24-7-2017 07:40 AM
mashimaru83 replied at 23-7-2017 05:57 PM
Anda ini kehulu kehilir 'pedo'. Berkahwin dgn wanita muda terutamanya pada zaman dahulu tak semest ...


Of course tidak di panggil pedo mashimaru di zaman itu,
zaman dahulu manusia 'uncivilize'. I tidak mahu pula mengeji cakap mereka ini 'low iq' dan tidak bertamadun pula..
How come i mahu cakap nabi 'low iq' pula kannnnn.... sudah nya mendapat wahyu tuhan 'green light' lagi, ... nanti serban u berasap pula kalau i cakap nabi uncivilize dan inderectly u juga penganut uncivilize juga kannnnn ? .... wahyu tuhan tuuuu...  

@sam1528
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Post time 24-7-2017 11:31 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mashimaru83 replied at 23-7-2017 06:31 PM
Details please?

Kun faya kun...
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Post time 24-7-2017 11:34 PM | Show all posts
M5 replied at 24-7-2017 08:37 PM
Sekejap evolution tetap ada sekejap percaya manusia nama Adam Tuhan buat pakai tanah liat, shape r ...

Ha ha .. M5 dah pening .. ko jugak yg bawak isu dlm Quran ttg manusia dari tanah. Ko jugak yg bawak isu ttg common descent dimana ko dah keliru dgn evolution

Jadi yg dah pening skg adalah ko aje. Ko tak tau pon beza antara evolution & common descent. Ada empirical evidence konon , mana dia empirical evidence ko ttg single --> multi cellular ... senyap aje .. tak tau lah tu

Ko dah cabar aku ttg manusia dari tanah .. aku dah bagi peer reviewed publication .. tergamam ko .. terkejut beruk

Macamana skg .. jelas yg dah keliru adalah diri ko aje

Mana empirical evidence ko? Simple aje , single --> multi cellular

Tick tock tick tock

Kah kah kah .. geng ateis ni bukan lah cerdik sgt .. tak mampu jawab .. mula lah menangis sama sendiri .. tak ada fokus langsung

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Post time 24-7-2017 11:35 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
sam1528 replied at 24-7-2017 02:38 AM
Ha ha .. aiik!! Buat tak tau pulak minah sewel ini

Aku mintak ko jelaskan maksud ayat2 tersebu ...

Iskandar dzulkarnain wujud sam , or al quran tong kosong seperti u juga ?
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Post time 24-7-2017 11:36 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
sam1528 replied at 24-7-2017 02:40 AM
Ha ha .. jawapan aku pon senang aje .. apa makna Islam apa makna muslim?

Awat hang takut sgt na ...

I faham dan apa bukti nya ?
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Post time 24-7-2017 11:38 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
sam1528 replied at 24-7-2017 02:44 AM
Ha ha .. nikah Aishah(ra) 6 thn .. apa problem dia? Cuba ko jelaskan apa problem dia?

Nak kata  ...

Boiling nampak  

I tag u pada reply i kepada mashimaru83
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Post time 24-7-2017 11:39 PM | Show all posts
Edited by sam1528 at 24-7-2017 11:55 PM
M5 replied at 24-7-2017 09:29 PM
bukannya tak tau trick dia. dia nak deny evolusi tak boleh, tapi at the same time kena purcaya Ada ...

Ha ha .. tengok aje kebodohan l̶o̶y̶a̶r̶ ̶k̶a̶r̶a̶t̶  oops legal assistant maideen dan ko , m5

Bukan boleh jawab apa2 soalan simple. Dok kecoh pasal common descent tapi keliru , ingat tersebut adalah evolution. LOL , dua2 dah bengong.

Nak cover malu .. mula lah menangis sama sendiri .. kononnya boleh lah gossip yourselves out of trouble .. lepas tu gelak kepada kebodohan sendiri

LOL , 'empirical evidence' ye .. ok .. mana dia empirical evidence & mechanism utk single --> multi cells

Kesian .. terkincit sampai skg tak mampu jawab .. tulis la panjang2 tapi bukti / rujukkan tarak ... ni modal air liur basi .. sama macam mat slow v2

Kah kah kah .. buta sains rupa2 nya geng ateis ni .. tak cerdik langsung

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Post time 24-7-2017 11:43 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
sam1528 replied at 24-7-2017 02:46 AM
Ha ha . chinese whispers pulak?

Ko tak tau ke yg Quran dicatatkan immediately bila wahyu diteri ...

Agak agak lah mahu kelentong pun sam...  
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Post time 24-7-2017 11:45 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
sam1528 replied at 24-7-2017 02:47 AM
Ha ha .. ok .. apa dia new specimen tu?

Kah kah kah

Kenapa tidak google sendiri takut salah kah seperti kantoi coin ituuu....  
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