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LOL , sekolah pondok lah .... ilmu tafsir lah
Konon2 ko nak bagi gambaran ko belajar tersebut ke? Sudah lah ..... ko bukan tau apa2 .... dok google aje lepas tu temberang
Ko cakap ahli tafsir zaman dulu kata dunia ni flat dan ko rujuk pada Quran71:19. Tapi translation pada ayat tersebut 'spread wide' , 'expense' 'wide expense'
Macamana ko boleh paham yg bumi ni flat dari perkataan 'spread wide' , 'expense' , 'wide expense'? Tetiba kata ahli tafsir zaman dulu kata bumi ni flat?
Mana rujukkan ko
Oops .... rujukkan ko spt biasa lah .... air liur basi ko tu
Nak temberang lagi ye ..... ha ha
Bila ko nak mula meroyan bagai janda gila talak ?
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Ha ha .... did you folks got your popcorns ready?
Si kemaruk dah nak mula meroyan dah .... oops dah mula meroyan bagai janda gila talak
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satu forum boleh nampak ko keling2 komen acong tu, nda
bangkem pon dah kena.. keling2 hujah, ubah2 pendirian, janji "menang"
hahaha janda ooo janda..
mana ada orang nak sembang dengan orang yang keling2 macam ni
buang masa je sembang dengan janda takde maruah, takde disiplin dalam berhujah  |
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Ha ha , kan dah kata ko dah mula meroyan bagai janda gila talak
Ini post#137 dari ko (in bitpart)
orang islam zaman2 dulu mana la tau pasal sfera bagai ni.. dorang tafsir ayat tu secara literal sebagai bumi ini rata..
kalau tengok kitab-kitab lama, tafsiran lama, majoriti ulama kata bumi ini sfera..
setelah sains mula mendapat tempat, baru la saintis islam kenal pasti kesilapan tafsiran selama beratus-ratus tahun tu
Post#139 dari ko
cuba la belajar ilmu tafsir dengan ulama2 sekolah pondok yang bersanadkan tok guru yang amalkan tafsiran lama.. baru tahu tafsiran AQ lama mana ada bigbang bumi sfera bagai 
Ayat yg dipercakapkan adalah Quran71:19. Translation pada ayat tersebut kata 'spread wide' , 'expense' 'wide expense'
Ko masih nak lari dari bagi jawapan :
Macamana ko boleh paham ia bermaksud bumi ni flat? Cerita sikit boleh tak?
LOL , ko tak mampu jawab ... ko meroyan bagai janda gila talak .... ko betul2 muka tak malu
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janda tak malu ni, tak sedar ke bangkem taknak layan dia?
mintak perhatian ke ape?? 
soalan mudah pasal mana dicipta dulu langit atau bumi pon dia keling2
sorry la bangkem tak layan orang yang takde maruah |
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Ha ha , kalo ko tak layan ko tak jawab aku.
Tapi ko dah tercabar ... pasal first round dulu ko teruk kena tampar dgn aku. Sama jugak skg , kiri kanan ko kena dgn aku. Tak melawan langsung
For the 4th time :
Ayat yg dipercakapkan adalah Quran71:19. Translation pada ayat tersebut kata 'spread wide' , 'expense' 'wide expense'
Ko masih nak lari dari bagi jawapan :
Macamana ko boleh paham ia bermaksud bumi ni flat? Cerita sikit boleh tak?
Ko buka ada maruah. Org ada maruah tak bohong / temberang
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Ha ha . memang aku suka debat dgn ko pasal aku suka tampar ko
Lagi pon ko tak melawan pon .... temberang ada lah
Syok tau , tampar ko kiri & kanan ..... kepala ko dok herot kanan & kiri aje
For the 5th time :
Ayat yg dipercakapkan adalah Quran71:19. Translation pada ayat tersebut kata 'spread wide' , 'expense' 'wide expense'
Ko masih nak lari dari bagi jawapan :
Macamana ko boleh paham ia bermaksud bumi ni flat? Cerita sikit boleh tak?
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janda ooo janda
dari awal lagi bangkem taknak layan ko la janda
takde pon bangkem quote komen ko
dah la janda.. ko tu bukannya reti bahasa arab pon
ada hati nak tafsir AQ |
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Ha ha , sebenarnya ko cuba jugak nak jawab aku. Tapi ko tak mampu.
I am just too good for you.
LOL , lagi sekali aku kata ... aku syok tampar ko kiri kanan .... muka ko herot aje kanan kiri
For the 5th time :
Ayat yg dipercakapkan adalah Quran71:19. Translation pada ayat tersebut kata 'spread wide' , 'expense' 'wide expense'
Ko masih nak lari dari bagi jawapan :
Macamana ko boleh paham ia bermaksud bumi ni flat? Cerita sikit boleh tak?
LOL , aku tafseer Quran pakai tafsiran yg ada authority .... ko tafsir from your wet dreams .... kesian ....
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Jangan dok auta laa
Mana ayat dlm quran cakap bumi ni sfera?  |
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Ha ha .... ko reti membaca? Ko mampu paham apa ko baca?
Cuba ko baca post#6 dari sis mbhcsf. Dia dah trying her best to go down to your level of intelligence.
Jadi apa yg ko nak membebel skg?
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sejak bila karpet adalah sfera? 
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Ha ha , mat slow dah mati kutu ... cuba lah nak lari tu.
Post#151 ko
Mana ayat dlm quran cakap bumi ni sfera?
sejak bila karpet adalah sfera?
Tak ada sapa yg kata karpet adalah sphere. Hanya org bodoh macam ko aje mat slow yg pikit karpet adalah sphere ... LOL ... kesian
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hai manusia bebal........
quran kamu tu adalah ciptaan manusia kuno dgn pengetahuan sains yg terhad........
bumi ini adalah berbentuk sfera dan bukan spt klaim lobai2 bodo bhw bumi ini adalah hamparan karpet
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Ha ha, bukti yg Quran adalah ciptaan manusia? Ko tak mampu bagi jugak
Memang lah bumi bentuk sphere. Hanya mat slow macam ko aje mungkin berpikiran berlainan
LOL , mana ko dapat lawak yg bumi ni hamparan karpet? Ko ni bangang betul lah
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quran tu ciptaan pak arab di padang pasir..... pasal tu depa kata bumi nie cam hamparan karpet dan bukannya sfera........
berapa byk laa kau punya bodoh ko nak kasi tunjuk? 
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banyak je
dalam ayat ayat ni , kalau anda boleh menggunakan pengetahuan geography atau pun sains , anda akan tahu yg bijak-Nya Allah ni menagtur ayat ayat supaya mudajh org islam abad ke-6 and ke 7th century understood about his GreATness. Tambahan pula apabila orang islama abad ke 21 membaca ayat ini pengeathuan mereka tentang Maha Bijaknya Allah ni terserlah
tapi needs a littl ebit of thinking - sebab tu Islam berbahsa Luhur dan menggambarkan ketinggian anugerah akal yg Allah bagi suruh manusia menyembah-Nya , jagn kufur
so i bagi ayat ayat yg menyatakan secara ( infereed meaning the earth is round )
[7:54] .. He covers the night with the day, [another night] chasing it rapidly; and [He created] the sun, the moon, and the stars, subjected by His command..
[39:5] He created the heavens and earth in truth. He wraps the night over the day and wraps the day over the night and has subjected the sun and the moon, each running [its course] for a specified term. Unquestionably, He is the Exalted in Might, the Perpetual Forgiver.
[36:40] It is not allowable for the sun to reach the moon, nor does the night overtake the day, but each, in an orbit, is swimming.
ayat ayat di atas menyatakan - perubahan masa - siang dan malam,
dalil aqli :
The Qur'an states in numerous places that Allah merges the night into the day and the day into the night. The key here is that this signifies a gradual transition from night to day and day to night. If the earth were flat, the transitions from night to day and day to night would be instant, not gradual.
waktu solat - all around the world - certengok perbezaan waktu ikut negara, ikut musim di negara hawa sederhana dan ijtihad ulamak tentang fenomena syariah ( shariah phenomena dalam musim panas di nergaar iklim sederhana)
so secara langsung dah menunjukkan kepada anda yg Islam dan Al Quran ni dan terkehadapan dari pemikiran anda dari seabstract concept ibadah dan sekonkrit concept on the earth's geometry dan ada dah unsur unsur ni dalam pemikiran umat Islam...sepanjang zaman merentas masa dan budaya.
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bila anda tafsir al quran tanpa panduan jadi earth versus land pun anda confuse
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But when the Quran speaks about the divider between fresh and salt water, it mentions the existence of “a forbidding partition” with the barrier. God has said in the Quran:  He is the one who has set free the two kinds of water, one sweet and palatable, and the other salty and bitter. And He has made between them a barrier and a forbidding partition.  (Quran, 25:53)One may ask, why did the Quran mention the partition when speaking about the divider between fresh and salt water, but did not mention it when speaking about the divider between the two seas? Modern science has discovered that in estuaries, where fresh (sweet) and salt water meet, the situation is somewhat different from what is found in places where two seas meet. It has been discovered that what distinguishes fresh water from salt water in estuaries is a “pycnocline zone with a marked density discontinuity separating the two layers.”3 This partition (zone of separation) has a different salinity from the fresh water and from the salt water4 (see figure 14). | Figure 14: Longitudinal section showing salinity (parts per thousand ‰) in an estuary. We can see here the partition (zone of separation) between the fresh and the salt water. (Introductory Oceanography, Thurman, p. 301, with a slight enhancement.) (Click on the image to enlarge it.) |
This information has been discovered only recently, using advanced equipment to measure temperature, salinity, density, oxygen dissolubility, etc. The human eye cannot see the difference between the two seas that meet, rather the two seas appear to us as one homogeneous sea. Likewise, the human eye cannot see the division of water in estuaries into the three kinds: fresh water, salt water, and the partition (zone of separation). https://www.islam-guide.com/ch1-1-e.htm
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